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  • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

    Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

    AusterA This user is from outside of this forum
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    Auster
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    #9

    I wouldn't say necessarily China controlled. Social engineering is great for making people replicate the engineering without noticing.

    But indeed I notice a lot of posts that benefit China since I joined in some years back (thanks Spez), specially in news and country-specific communities.

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    • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

      Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

      Endymion_MallornE This user is from outside of this forum
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      Endymion_Mallorn
      wrote last edited by
      #10

      Everything in the world is propaganda or advertising. You have a choice to believe it or not.

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      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

        Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

        infinitevalence@discuss.onlineI This user is from outside of this forum
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        infinitevalence@discuss.online
        wrote last edited by
        #11

        Plenty of Russian propaganda too. Every "conservative" community or server is essentially acting in Putin's favor.

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        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

          Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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          Maeve
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          #12

          Because the USA and Europe are shining beacons of truth and human rights.

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          • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

            Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

            blackn1ght@feddit.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
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            blackn1ght@feddit.uk
            wrote last edited by blackn1ght@feddit.uk
            #13

            Change instance and block lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.

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            • S slazer2au

              Treat it like a troll post. Downvote and move on, if the name becomes familiar block them.

              This goes for all propaganda not just the stuff you are against.

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              hector@lemmy.today
              wrote last edited by
              #14

              That assumes you accurately define propaganda. I think we've all faced half baked allegations as such, and had people vote with the accuser, you want everyone to be seperated from each other on here because they misunderstood a point, or understood different facts, or because they are a dumbass on a different topic?

              Just downvote, and move on, unless the person is stalking you, looking at you hexrat, or whatever fucking mammal.

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              • artyomA artyom

                Lemmy was created by Chinese state actors, so no surprise there.

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                hector@lemmy.today
                wrote last edited by
                #15

                When and why?

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                • M mrdown@lemmy.world

                  You either handle all propagandas or handle none

                  libertylizard@slrpnk.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  libertylizard@slrpnk.net
                  wrote last edited by
                  #16

                  Unfortunately I'm not sure how you could handle all propaganda. As long as you have oligarchs and states it will exist.

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                  • R realitista@lemmus.org

                    You can safely assume that anything on .ml or lemmygrad is. Just don't subscribe to them. I can give you a block list that encompasses most of the ones who don't stay nicely in .ml land. We should have shareable block lists like BlueSky to get new users up and running quickly. I hope that PieFed eventually does some stuff like this.

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                    dsn9@lemmy.ml
                    wrote last edited by
                    #17

                    Lemmy.ml is?!? That's who I signed up for though. I like the privacy stuff. So which instance is politically neutral but technically aligned, pirate party, self hosting etc?

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                    • B blarghly@lemmy.world

                      I heard they've stopped all fear mongering in China

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                      dsn9@lemmy.ml
                      wrote last edited by
                      #18

                      Lol right? Dude the Chinese bots and reply guys are so obvious.

                      Poo bear's gotta up his game on 🐻

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                      • artyomA artyom

                        Lemmy was created by Chinese state actors, so no surprise there.

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                        dsn9@lemmy.ml
                        wrote last edited by
                        #19

                        Can you corroborate this with evidence?

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                        • M mrdown@lemmy.world

                          You either handle all propagandas or handle none

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                          dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                          #20

                          Chinese reply guy ⬆️

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                          • libertylizard@slrpnk.netL libertylizard@slrpnk.net

                            Unfortunately I'm not sure how you could handle all propaganda. As long as you have oligarchs and states it will exist.

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                            dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                            #21

                            Real comment ⏫

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                            • S slazer2au

                              Treat it like a troll post. Downvote and move on, if the name becomes familiar block them.

                              This goes for all propaganda not just the stuff you are against.

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                              dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                              Entire subs and communities, and servers are Chinese state actors. I wish we could daylight this bullshit, a single serving page with a method for rankings subs, servers with biases?

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                              • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                                Peehole
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                                You have discovered .ml? Yeah the lead devs are tankies lol

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                                • H hector@lemmy.today

                                  That assumes you accurately define propaganda. I think we've all faced half baked allegations as such, and had people vote with the accuser, you want everyone to be seperated from each other on here because they misunderstood a point, or understood different facts, or because they are a dumbass on a different topic?

                                  Just downvote, and move on, unless the person is stalking you, looking at you hexrat, or whatever fucking mammal.

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                                  dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                                  #24

                                  This was true until I realized they're all over. Anything even remotely pertaining to China is flooded with the Chinese state actors reply guys and bots. In effect, using the protocols strength against itself. Is the protocol itself even able to be banned in China? Are they seriously active on here just to push their bullshit China marketing even harder. They've gone all out the last five years.

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                                  • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                    Lemmy.ml is?!? That's who I signed up for though. I like the privacy stuff. So which instance is politically neutral but technically aligned, pirate party, self hosting etc?

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                                    myrmidex@belgae.social
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                                    #25

                                    politically neutral <> pirate party

                                    Pick one

                                    I don't see many self-hosters celebrating the wonders of capitalism.

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                                      dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                                      What you’re describing is false moral equivalence used as a deflective propaganda strategy.

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                                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                        Lemmy.ml is?!? That's who I signed up for though. I like the privacy stuff. So which instance is politically neutral but technically aligned, pirate party, self hosting etc?

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                                        realitista@lemmus.org
                                        wrote last edited by
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                                        Yes Lemmy.ml is the most popular of the tankie instances. They will ban you, remove your posts, etc in most major communities if you say anything negative about CCCP, Russia, Communism, etc.

                                        I can recommend lemmus.org as a very fast and efficient instance. Remember, you don't have to have an account on the instance who's communities you want to access. You can access communities on all instances from any instance. So the policies of your home instance don't really affect you much. They only affect the communities hosted there.

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                                        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                          This was true until I realized they're all over. Anything even remotely pertaining to China is flooded with the Chinese state actors reply guys and bots. In effect, using the protocols strength against itself. Is the protocol itself even able to be banned in China? Are they seriously active on here just to push their bullshit China marketing even harder. They've gone all out the last five years.

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                                          hector@lemmy.today
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                                          When I check facebook, just in passing as I use marketplace occassionally I check the enshitified feed, and there is a lot of chinese propaganda on there, pushing their advancements, science, it's a concderted effort for sure.

                                          The Chinese are really bad at propaganda though, they never had to try with their own people, so they put that same amount of understanding into it here and it falls flat, at least so far. They are getting better with their fluff pieces, but as far as manipulating us, they suck at it, unlike the Russians, they get us, they know just how stupid we are.

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