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Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse

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  • R realitista@lemmus.org

    You can safely assume that anything on .ml or lemmygrad is. Just don't subscribe to them. I can give you a block list that encompasses most of the ones who don't stay nicely in .ml land. We should have shareable block lists like BlueSky to get new users up and running quickly. I hope that PieFed eventually does some stuff like this.

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    dsn9@lemmy.ml
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    Lemmy.ml is?!? That's who I signed up for though. I like the privacy stuff. So which instance is politically neutral but technically aligned, pirate party, self hosting etc?

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    • B blarghly@lemmy.world

      I heard they've stopped all fear mongering in China

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      dsn9@lemmy.ml
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      Lol right? Dude the Chinese bots and reply guys are so obvious.

      Poo bear's gotta up his game on 🐻

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      • artyomA artyom

        Lemmy was created by Chinese state actors, so no surprise there.

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        dsn9@lemmy.ml
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        Can you corroborate this with evidence?

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        • M mrdown@lemmy.world

          You either handle all propagandas or handle none

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          dsn9@lemmy.ml
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          Chinese reply guy ⬆️

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          • libertylizard@slrpnk.netL libertylizard@slrpnk.net

            Unfortunately I'm not sure how you could handle all propaganda. As long as you have oligarchs and states it will exist.

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            dsn9@lemmy.ml
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            Real comment ⏫

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            • S slazer2au

              Treat it like a troll post. Downvote and move on, if the name becomes familiar block them.

              This goes for all propaganda not just the stuff you are against.

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              dsn9@lemmy.ml
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              Entire subs and communities, and servers are Chinese state actors. I wish we could daylight this bullshit, a single serving page with a method for rankings subs, servers with biases?

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              • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                Peehole
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                You have discovered .ml? Yeah the lead devs are tankies lol

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                • H hector@lemmy.today

                  That assumes you accurately define propaganda. I think we've all faced half baked allegations as such, and had people vote with the accuser, you want everyone to be seperated from each other on here because they misunderstood a point, or understood different facts, or because they are a dumbass on a different topic?

                  Just downvote, and move on, unless the person is stalking you, looking at you hexrat, or whatever fucking mammal.

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                  dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                  This was true until I realized they're all over. Anything even remotely pertaining to China is flooded with the Chinese state actors reply guys and bots. In effect, using the protocols strength against itself. Is the protocol itself even able to be banned in China? Are they seriously active on here just to push their bullshit China marketing even harder. They've gone all out the last five years.

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                  • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                    Lemmy.ml is?!? That's who I signed up for though. I like the privacy stuff. So which instance is politically neutral but technically aligned, pirate party, self hosting etc?

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                    myrmidex@belgae.social
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                    #25

                    politically neutral <> pirate party

                    Pick one

                    I don't see many self-hosters celebrating the wonders of capitalism.

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                      dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                      What you’re describing is false moral equivalence used as a deflective propaganda strategy.

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                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                        Lemmy.ml is?!? That's who I signed up for though. I like the privacy stuff. So which instance is politically neutral but technically aligned, pirate party, self hosting etc?

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                        realitista@lemmus.org
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                        Yes Lemmy.ml is the most popular of the tankie instances. They will ban you, remove your posts, etc in most major communities if you say anything negative about CCCP, Russia, Communism, etc.

                        I can recommend lemmus.org as a very fast and efficient instance. Remember, you don't have to have an account on the instance who's communities you want to access. You can access communities on all instances from any instance. So the policies of your home instance don't really affect you much. They only affect the communities hosted there.

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                        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                          This was true until I realized they're all over. Anything even remotely pertaining to China is flooded with the Chinese state actors reply guys and bots. In effect, using the protocols strength against itself. Is the protocol itself even able to be banned in China? Are they seriously active on here just to push their bullshit China marketing even harder. They've gone all out the last five years.

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                          hector@lemmy.today
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                          When I check facebook, just in passing as I use marketplace occassionally I check the enshitified feed, and there is a lot of chinese propaganda on there, pushing their advancements, science, it's a concderted effort for sure.

                          The Chinese are really bad at propaganda though, they never had to try with their own people, so they put that same amount of understanding into it here and it falls flat, at least so far. They are getting better with their fluff pieces, but as far as manipulating us, they suck at it, unlike the Russians, they get us, they know just how stupid we are.

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                          • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB blackn1ght@feddit.uk

                            Change instance and block lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.

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                            dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                            What do you recommend instead? I sign up on another instance? Which one?

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                            • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                              Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                              technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                              #30

                              Yes, imperial propaganda is completely normal and overwhelming. It doesn't matter which empire. They're all working together under global capitalism.

                              But it's brainwashed sinophobia to blame only "China".

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                              • infinitevalence@discuss.onlineI infinitevalence@discuss.online

                                Plenty of Russian propaganda too. Every "conservative" community or server is essentially acting in Putin's favor.

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                                technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                Don't forget USAian propaganda. By far the most prevalent under that regime.

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                                  dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                                  The propaganda technique used here "cynicism framing."

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                                    technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                    Math? What a wacky overstatement...

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                                    • infinitevalence@discuss.onlineI infinitevalence@discuss.online

                                      Plenty of Russian propaganda too. Every "conservative" community or server is essentially acting in Putin's favor.

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                                      Goldholz
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                                      Both often go hand in hand

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                                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                        What do you recommend instead? I sign up on another instance? Which one?

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                                        blackn1ght@feddit.uk
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                                        Maybe db0? At least based off what you're after in your comments.

                                        Of course there's also the more regional instances, such as feddit.uk, lemmy.ca, etc.

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                                        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                          What do you recommend instead? I sign up on another instance? Which one?

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                                          Goldholz
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                                          Any really. .ml is the main chinese hot pot

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