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Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse

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  • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

    Lemmy.ml is?!? That's who I signed up for though. I like the privacy stuff. So which instance is politically neutral but technically aligned, pirate party, self hosting etc?

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    myrmidex@belgae.social
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    #25

    politically neutral <> pirate party

    Pick one

    I don't see many self-hosters celebrating the wonders of capitalism.

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      dsn9@lemmy.ml
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      What you’re describing is false moral equivalence used as a deflective propaganda strategy.

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      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

        Lemmy.ml is?!? That's who I signed up for though. I like the privacy stuff. So which instance is politically neutral but technically aligned, pirate party, self hosting etc?

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        realitista@lemmus.org
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        Yes Lemmy.ml is the most popular of the tankie instances. They will ban you, remove your posts, etc in most major communities if you say anything negative about CCCP, Russia, Communism, etc.

        I can recommend lemmus.org as a very fast and efficient instance. Remember, you don't have to have an account on the instance who's communities you want to access. You can access communities on all instances from any instance. So the policies of your home instance don't really affect you much. They only affect the communities hosted there.

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        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

          This was true until I realized they're all over. Anything even remotely pertaining to China is flooded with the Chinese state actors reply guys and bots. In effect, using the protocols strength against itself. Is the protocol itself even able to be banned in China? Are they seriously active on here just to push their bullshit China marketing even harder. They've gone all out the last five years.

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          hector@lemmy.today
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          When I check facebook, just in passing as I use marketplace occassionally I check the enshitified feed, and there is a lot of chinese propaganda on there, pushing their advancements, science, it's a concderted effort for sure.

          The Chinese are really bad at propaganda though, they never had to try with their own people, so they put that same amount of understanding into it here and it falls flat, at least so far. They are getting better with their fluff pieces, but as far as manipulating us, they suck at it, unlike the Russians, they get us, they know just how stupid we are.

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          • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB blackn1ght@feddit.uk

            Change instance and block lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.

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            dsn9@lemmy.ml
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            What do you recommend instead? I sign up on another instance? Which one?

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            • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

              Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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              technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              #30

              Yes, imperial propaganda is completely normal and overwhelming. It doesn't matter which empire. They're all working together under global capitalism.

              But it's brainwashed sinophobia to blame only "China".

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              • infinitevalence@discuss.onlineI infinitevalence@discuss.online

                Plenty of Russian propaganda too. Every "conservative" community or server is essentially acting in Putin's favor.

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                technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                Don't forget USAian propaganda. By far the most prevalent under that regime.

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                  dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                  The propaganda technique used here "cynicism framing."

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                    technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    Math? What a wacky overstatement...

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                    • infinitevalence@discuss.onlineI infinitevalence@discuss.online

                      Plenty of Russian propaganda too. Every "conservative" community or server is essentially acting in Putin's favor.

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                      Goldholz
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                      Both often go hand in hand

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                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                        What do you recommend instead? I sign up on another instance? Which one?

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                        blackn1ght@feddit.uk
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                        Maybe db0? At least based off what you're after in your comments.

                        Of course there's also the more regional instances, such as feddit.uk, lemmy.ca, etc.

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                        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                          What do you recommend instead? I sign up on another instance? Which one?

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                          Goldholz
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                          Any really. .ml is the main chinese hot pot

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                          • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                            What you’re describing is false moral equivalence used as a deflective propaganda strategy.

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                            technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            What you described is a state enemy used to deflect attention from the many enemies within this state.

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                            • M myrmidex@belgae.social

                              politically neutral <> pirate party

                              Pick one

                              I don't see many self-hosters celebrating the wonders of capitalism.

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                              dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                              Not dominated by Chinese, Russian nor Western state actors. That's all I'm asking for. Where truth isn't censored.

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                              • R realitista@lemmus.org

                                You can safely assume that anything on .ml or lemmygrad is. Just don't subscribe to them. I can give you a block list that encompasses most of the ones who don't stay nicely in .ml land. We should have shareable block lists like BlueSky to get new users up and running quickly. I hope that PieFed eventually does some stuff like this.

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                                technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                It's safe to assume that the enemy is promoting propaganda while our noble nation is promoting the truth!!! \s

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                                • R realitista@lemmus.org

                                  Yes Lemmy.ml is the most popular of the tankie instances. They will ban you, remove your posts, etc in most major communities if you say anything negative about CCCP, Russia, Communism, etc.

                                  I can recommend lemmus.org as a very fast and efficient instance. Remember, you don't have to have an account on the instance who's communities you want to access. You can access communities on all instances from any instance. So the policies of your home instance don't really affect you much. They only affect the communities hosted there.

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                                  dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                                  Why is Lemmy.ml the most popular tankie instance? I've been played by Poo bear, interesting. Thanks I will switch.

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                                  • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                    Why is Lemmy.ml the most popular tankie instance? I've been played by Poo bear, interesting. Thanks I will switch.

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                                    ezyryder@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                    ml literally stands for Marxist Leninist aka tankies aka red fascism

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                                    • artyomA artyom

                                      Lemmy was created by Chinese state actors, so no surprise there.

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                                      lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                      Facts or tits. Provide one.

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                                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                        Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                                        franconian_nomad@feddit.org
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                                        The lemmy developers are tankies and three big lemmy servers are entirely controlled by them, namely hexbear, lemmigrad and Lemmy.ml. You will find plenty of China, North Korea and for some kind of reason Russian propaganda on them.

                                        !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

                                        !tankiejerk@piefed.social

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                                        • H hector@lemmy.today

                                          When and why?

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                                          artyom
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                                          When it was created. And I don't know why, you'd have to ask them.

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