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Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse

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  • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

    What do you recommend instead? I sign up on another instance? Which one?

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    Goldholz
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    #36

    Any really. .ml is the main chinese hot pot

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    • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

      What you’re describing is false moral equivalence used as a deflective propaganda strategy.

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      technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      #37

      What you described is a state enemy used to deflect attention from the many enemies within this state.

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      • M myrmidex@belgae.social

        politically neutral <> pirate party

        Pick one

        I don't see many self-hosters celebrating the wonders of capitalism.

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        dsn9@lemmy.ml
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        #38

        Not dominated by Chinese, Russian nor Western state actors. That's all I'm asking for. Where truth isn't censored.

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        • R realitista@lemmus.org

          You can safely assume that anything on .ml or lemmygrad is. Just don't subscribe to them. I can give you a block list that encompasses most of the ones who don't stay nicely in .ml land. We should have shareable block lists like BlueSky to get new users up and running quickly. I hope that PieFed eventually does some stuff like this.

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          technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          It's safe to assume that the enemy is promoting propaganda while our noble nation is promoting the truth!!! \s

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          • R realitista@lemmus.org

            Yes Lemmy.ml is the most popular of the tankie instances. They will ban you, remove your posts, etc in most major communities if you say anything negative about CCCP, Russia, Communism, etc.

            I can recommend lemmus.org as a very fast and efficient instance. Remember, you don't have to have an account on the instance who's communities you want to access. You can access communities on all instances from any instance. So the policies of your home instance don't really affect you much. They only affect the communities hosted there.

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            dsn9@lemmy.ml
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            #40

            Why is Lemmy.ml the most popular tankie instance? I've been played by Poo bear, interesting. Thanks I will switch.

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            • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

              Why is Lemmy.ml the most popular tankie instance? I've been played by Poo bear, interesting. Thanks I will switch.

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              ezyryder@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              #41

              ml literally stands for Marxist Leninist aka tankies aka red fascism

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              • artyomA artyom

                Lemmy was created by Chinese state actors, so no surprise there.

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                lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
                wrote last edited by
                #42

                Facts or tits. Provide one.

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                • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                  Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                  franconian_nomad@feddit.org
                  wrote last edited by
                  #43

                  The lemmy developers are tankies and three big lemmy servers are entirely controlled by them, namely hexbear, lemmigrad and Lemmy.ml. You will find plenty of China, North Korea and for some kind of reason Russian propaganda on them.

                  !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

                  !tankiejerk@piefed.social

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                  • H hector@lemmy.today

                    When and why?

                    artyomA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    artyom
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                    #44

                    When it was created. And I don't know why, you'd have to ask them.

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                    • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                      Can you corroborate this with evidence?

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                      artyom
                      wrote last edited by
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                      It's widely-know. Just have to look at the post history of the creators. Particularly Desalines or whatever.

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                      • P Peehole

                        You have discovered .ml? Yeah the lead devs are tankies lol

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                        dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                        #46

                        So they're trying to capture mind share of technologists. Nice play, I'm embarrassed.

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                        • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB blackn1ght@feddit.uk

                          Change instance and block lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.

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                          dsn9@lemmy.ml
                          wrote last edited by dsn9@lemmy.ml
                          #47

                          Can I take my account with me? Or spin up a new account and username? And subscribed communities?

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                          • Goldholz G Goldholz

                            Any really. .ml is the main chinese hot pot

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                            dsn9@lemmy.ml
                            wrote last edited by
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                            How do you know? I'm finding out because I can't post or comment about certain things 🤫😳🙈

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                            • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                              Can I take my account with me? Or spin up a new account and username? And subscribed communities?

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                              iamthetot
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                              You make a new account.

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                              • artyomA artyom

                                It's widely-know. Just have to look at the post history of the creators. Particularly Desalines or whatever.

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                                dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                                Yes, I can't write about certain things, in a square 😂

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                                • artyomA artyom

                                  It's widely-know. Just have to look at the post history of the creators. Particularly Desalines or whatever.

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                                  dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                                  How can they censor what I say? But only on .ml subs, or they can control me account because it's a .ml account?

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                                  • T technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                    It's safe to assume that the enemy is promoting propaganda while our noble nation is promoting the truth!!! \s

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                                    franconian_nomad@feddit.org
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                                    Ah. Enlightened centrism.

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                                    • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                      Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                                      dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                                      I'm so embarrassed I've been using a tankie instance without knowing it for months and only recently realized it

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                                      • R realitista@lemmus.org

                                        You can safely assume that anything on .ml or lemmygrad is. Just don't subscribe to them. I can give you a block list that encompasses most of the ones who don't stay nicely in .ml land. We should have shareable block lists like BlueSky to get new users up and running quickly. I hope that PieFed eventually does some stuff like this.

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                                        Nutomic
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                                        You can export your settings, remove everything unrelated to blocks, and share it. Then other users can import the json file and it will be added to their existing blocklist.

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                                        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                          Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                                          Avid Amoeba
                                          wrote last edited by avidamoeba@lemmy.ca
                                          #55

                                          There'a a global positive shift in opinion on China that's happened over the first year of Trump. The trend was already there in the "Global South" but it's now happening everywhere. This shift is driven by real economic and geopolitical pressures. E.g. US tariffs and military threats, Chinese investment and cheap EVs, etc. Add to that there are more people on Lemmy from non-NA/EU countries than on US-centric platforms like Reddit and this shift becomes even more apparent here. In Western countries the positive opinion on China is less one of an ally and more of a necessary partner. In Canada, the opposition to trade with China shifted from 80% in 2020 to 32% at the end of 2025.

                                          If you're primed to not see anything positive about China, then even positive views around partnership could appear as pro-China propaganda. Also people in the Global South are much more aware of US and European atrocities so when you present China's atrocities as a counter to people's positive opinions, it looks unserious and hypocritical to them. If you see their hypocrisy callout as a propaganda method and you call it out as such, you lose all good faith credibility with them.

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                                          PS: Along with this shift, comes the realization among some that a lot of what they thought about China came from corporate US interest via US-owned media that pushes a line useful for that interest. This has happened to me and multiple RL friends and family in Canada. The conversations on the last thanksgiving table have changed a lot since 2024. At present we're in the necessary partner camp.

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