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  • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

    Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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    franconian_nomad@feddit.org
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    #43

    The lemmy developers are tankies and three big lemmy servers are entirely controlled by them, namely hexbear, lemmigrad and Lemmy.ml. You will find plenty of China, North Korea and for some kind of reason Russian propaganda on them.

    !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

    !tankiejerk@piefed.social

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    • H hector@lemmy.today

      When and why?

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      artyom
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      #44

      When it was created. And I don't know why, you'd have to ask them.

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      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

        Can you corroborate this with evidence?

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        artyom
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        #45

        It's widely-know. Just have to look at the post history of the creators. Particularly Desalines or whatever.

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        • P Peehole

          You have discovered .ml? Yeah the lead devs are tankies lol

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          dsn9@lemmy.ml
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          #46

          So they're trying to capture mind share of technologists. Nice play, I'm embarrassed.

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          • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB blackn1ght@feddit.uk

            Change instance and block lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.

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            dsn9@lemmy.ml
            wrote last edited by dsn9@lemmy.ml
            #47

            Can I take my account with me? Or spin up a new account and username? And subscribed communities?

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            • Goldholz G Goldholz

              Any really. .ml is the main chinese hot pot

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              dsn9@lemmy.ml
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              #48

              How do you know? I'm finding out because I can't post or comment about certain things 🤫😳🙈

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              • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                Can I take my account with me? Or spin up a new account and username? And subscribed communities?

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                iamthetot
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                #49

                You make a new account.

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                • artyomA artyom

                  It's widely-know. Just have to look at the post history of the creators. Particularly Desalines or whatever.

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                  dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                  Yes, I can't write about certain things, in a square 😂

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                  • artyomA artyom

                    It's widely-know. Just have to look at the post history of the creators. Particularly Desalines or whatever.

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                    dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                    How can they censor what I say? But only on .ml subs, or they can control me account because it's a .ml account?

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                    • T technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      It's safe to assume that the enemy is promoting propaganda while our noble nation is promoting the truth!!! \s

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                      franconian_nomad@feddit.org
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                      #52

                      Ah. Enlightened centrism.

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                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                        Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                        dsn9@lemmy.ml
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                        I'm so embarrassed I've been using a tankie instance without knowing it for months and only recently realized it

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                        • R realitista@lemmus.org

                          You can safely assume that anything on .ml or lemmygrad is. Just don't subscribe to them. I can give you a block list that encompasses most of the ones who don't stay nicely in .ml land. We should have shareable block lists like BlueSky to get new users up and running quickly. I hope that PieFed eventually does some stuff like this.

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                          Nutomic
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                          #54

                          You can export your settings, remove everything unrelated to blocks, and share it. Then other users can import the json file and it will be added to their existing blocklist.

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                          • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                            Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                            Avid Amoeba
                            wrote last edited by avidamoeba@lemmy.ca
                            #55

                            There'a a global positive shift in opinion on China that's happened over the first year of Trump. The trend was already there in the "Global South" but it's now happening everywhere. This shift is driven by real economic and geopolitical pressures. E.g. US tariffs and military threats, Chinese investment and cheap EVs, etc. Add to that there are more people on Lemmy from non-NA/EU countries than on US-centric platforms like Reddit and this shift becomes even more apparent here. In Western countries the positive opinion on China is less one of an ally and more of a necessary partner. In Canada, the opposition to trade with China shifted from 80% in 2020 to 32% at the end of 2025.

                            If you're primed to not see anything positive about China, then even positive views around partnership could appear as pro-China propaganda. Also people in the Global South are much more aware of US and European atrocities so when you present China's atrocities as a counter to people's positive opinions, it looks unserious and hypocritical to them. If you see their hypocrisy callout as a propaganda method and you call it out as such, you lose all good faith credibility with them.

                            Pics:

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                            PS: Along with this shift, comes the realization among some that a lot of what they thought about China came from corporate US interest via US-owned media that pushes a line useful for that interest. This has happened to me and multiple RL friends and family in Canada. The conversations on the last thanksgiving table have changed a lot since 2024. At present we're in the necessary partner camp.

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                            • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                              Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                              riotingpacifist@lemmy.world
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                              I'm no fan of Tankies or the CCP, but I'm really not seeing any more pro-china propaganda than you see elsewhere, mostly excitement as a result of their green tech stuff or HSR (while ignoring why China has a need for HSR)

                              I am seeing a surprising amount of anti-china paranoia from the UK press right now that frankly seems like it's engineered by the US given its timing. Like articles about diplomats using burner phones as if that isn't standard (for all countries).

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                              • T technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                It's safe to assume that the enemy is promoting propaganda while our noble nation is promoting the truth!!! \s

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                                realitista@lemmus.org
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                                The difference is that I don't get banned/censored on western instances for criticizing Trump or US military interventions.

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                                • F franconian_nomad@feddit.org

                                  The lemmy developers are tankies and three big lemmy servers are entirely controlled by them, namely hexbear, lemmigrad and Lemmy.ml. You will find plenty of China, North Korea and for some kind of reason Russian propaganda on them.

                                  !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

                                  !tankiejerk@piefed.social

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                                  Maeve
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                                  Ah yes, the communities of the zionist genocidal apartheid apologists.

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                                  • R realitista@lemmus.org

                                    The difference is that I don't get banned/censored on western instances for criticizing Trump or US military interventions.

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                                    Maeve
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                                    You don't get banned on hex, grad, or ml for it either, either. People should really check the mod logs a few times daily.

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                                    • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                      This was true until I realized they're all over. Anything even remotely pertaining to China is flooded with the Chinese state actors reply guys and bots. In effect, using the protocols strength against itself. Is the protocol itself even able to be banned in China? Are they seriously active on here just to push their bullshit China marketing even harder. They've gone all out the last five years.

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                                      Maeve
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                                      What racist, afraid of your own shadow scummy behavior you display.

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                                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                        Chinese reply guy ⬆️

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                                        mrdown@lemmy.world
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                                        Zionist reply guy. See how easy it is to make false accusation?

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                                        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                          Can I take my account with me? Or spin up a new account and username? And subscribed communities?

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                                          placebo@lemmy.zip
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                                          #62

                                          You can export your settings and subscriptions - then import them elsewhere. You'll lose your post/comment history though.

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