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Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse

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  • F franconian_nomad@feddit.org

    The lemmy developers are tankies and three big lemmy servers are entirely controlled by them, namely hexbear, lemmigrad and Lemmy.ml. You will find plenty of China, North Korea and for some kind of reason Russian propaganda on them.

    !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

    !tankiejerk@piefed.social

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    Maeve
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    #58

    Ah yes, the communities of the zionist genocidal apartheid apologists.

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    • R realitista@lemmus.org

      The difference is that I don't get banned/censored on western instances for criticizing Trump or US military interventions.

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      Maeve
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      #59

      You don't get banned on hex, grad, or ml for it either, either. People should really check the mod logs a few times daily.

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      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

        This was true until I realized they're all over. Anything even remotely pertaining to China is flooded with the Chinese state actors reply guys and bots. In effect, using the protocols strength against itself. Is the protocol itself even able to be banned in China? Are they seriously active on here just to push their bullshit China marketing even harder. They've gone all out the last five years.

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        Maeve
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        #60

        What racist, afraid of your own shadow scummy behavior you display.

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        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

          Chinese reply guy ⬆️

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          mrdown@lemmy.world
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          #61

          Zionist reply guy. See how easy it is to make false accusation?

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          • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

            Can I take my account with me? Or spin up a new account and username? And subscribed communities?

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            placebo@lemmy.zip
            wrote last edited by placebo@lemmy.zip
            #62

            You can export your settings and subscriptions - then import them elsewhere. You'll lose your post/comment history though.

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            • libertylizard@slrpnk.netL libertylizard@slrpnk.net

              Unfortunately I'm not sure how you could handle all propaganda. As long as you have oligarchs and states it will exist.

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              mrdown@lemmy.world
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              #63

              We have fact checkers, we have reputable historians, we have videos confirming stuffs, we have human right organization confirming stuffs. Propaganda points from Zionism for example are intentionally not remove . I support removing all clear propaganda points whatever it is from China, Russia, the west ,Iran and Israel

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              • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB blackn1ght@feddit.uk

                Maybe db0? At least based off what you're after in your comments.

                Of course there's also the more regional instances, such as feddit.uk, lemmy.ca, etc.

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                Eldritch
                wrote last edited by
                #64

                Anarchist based instances are definitely one of the better options. You'll still find ML there. Even running some communities. But easier to avoid over all. Less likely to have immature micromanaging admins as well as auth propaganda.

                Though really, just find about any other instance that federates with the servers the communities important to you are on. And you should be good.

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                • M mrdown@lemmy.world

                  We have fact checkers, we have reputable historians, we have videos confirming stuffs, we have human right organization confirming stuffs. Propaganda points from Zionism for example are intentionally not remove . I support removing all clear propaganda points whatever it is from China, Russia, the west ,Iran and Israel

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                  libertylizard@slrpnk.net
                  wrote last edited by
                  #65

                  I do too but some of it is hard to uproot. Someone has to put in the work to unravel it and it's often very difficult and unpopular work for the first experts to take that on.

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                    realitista@lemmus.org
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                    I've gotten banned and censored from communities there for saying that Ukraine should fight back against Russia.

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                    • R realitista@lemmus.org

                      I've gotten banned and censored from communities there for saying that Ukraine should fight back against Russia.

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                      Maeve
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                      #67

                      That's a US military intervention.

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                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                        Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                        hootinnhollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        #68

                        Your instance is the lead actor on that one

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                        • R realitista@lemmus.org

                          Yes Lemmy.ml is the most popular of the tankie instances. They will ban you, remove your posts, etc in most major communities if you say anything negative about CCCP, Russia, Communism, etc.

                          I can recommend lemmus.org as a very fast and efficient instance. Remember, you don't have to have an account on the instance who's communities you want to access. You can access communities on all instances from any instance. So the policies of your home instance don't really affect you much. They only affect the communities hosted there.

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                          Sundray
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                          I can 2nd lemmus.org, it's pretty chill over here. The admin has blocked the creation of new communities for the time being however, so if you want to start a new comm you're better off looking elsewhere.

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                          • SundrayS Sundray

                            I can 2nd lemmus.org, it's pretty chill over here. The admin has blocked the creation of new communities for the time being however, so if you want to start a new comm you're better off looking elsewhere.

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                            realitista@lemmus.org
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                            Yeah I look to bigger instances to host communities I create and smaller ones to host my account for speed.

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                              franconian_nomad@feddit.org
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                              There are apologists of genocide in this communities? Where?

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                              • F franconian_nomad@feddit.org

                                There are apologists of genocide in this communities? Where?

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                                Maeve
                                wrote last edited by maeve@kbin.earth
                                #72

                                The creator is a Zionist. Eta: as well as the most prolific contributors.

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                                • artyomA artyom

                                  Lemmy was created by Chinese state actors, so no surprise there.

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                                  thoro@lemmy.ml
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                                  #73

                                  Piefed was created by the CIA, NSA, and Kissinger's ghost.

                                  You can tell in the name.

                                  Fed.

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                                  • NutomicN Nutomic

                                    You can export your settings, remove everything unrelated to blocks, and share it. Then other users can import the json file and it will be added to their existing blocklist.

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                                    realitista@lemmus.org
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #74

                                    Good hint, but there needs to be an online registry of them where you can subscribe to them and get updates automatically when they change. This is how Bluesky works and it works very well.

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                                    • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                      Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                                      Cowbee [he/they]
                                      wrote last edited by cowbee@lemmy.ml
                                      #75

                                      There are a lot of people supportive of the PRC, both because the US Empire is declining and the PRC is positioned as an alternative to the US Empire's naked terrorism, and because Lemmy has a lot of communists. Lemmy has a lot of communists because the lead developers are communists, FOSS attracts communists, and because as Reddit bans communist communities they are often suggested to come here.

                                      There's absolutely no credible evidence of CPC interference in Lemmy, this is a normal thing to happen to a FOSS alternative to Reddit.

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                                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                        Not dominated by Chinese, Russian nor Western state actors. That's all I'm asking for. Where truth isn't censored.

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                                        myrmidex@belgae.social
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                                        Where truth isn’t censored

                                        Self-hosting seems your only option then. You might be cut off from other instances if they decide to defederate, but at least on your instance you'll be able to enjoy free speech (and block unwanted speech).

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                                          franconian_nomad@feddit.org
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                                          You know, without proof that sounds very much like a whataboutism…

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