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Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse

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    realitista@lemmus.org
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    I've gotten banned and censored from communities there for saying that Ukraine should fight back against Russia.

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    • R realitista@lemmus.org

      I've gotten banned and censored from communities there for saying that Ukraine should fight back against Russia.

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      Maeve
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      #67

      That's a US military intervention.

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      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

        Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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        hootinnhollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        #68

        Your instance is the lead actor on that one

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        • R realitista@lemmus.org

          Yes Lemmy.ml is the most popular of the tankie instances. They will ban you, remove your posts, etc in most major communities if you say anything negative about CCCP, Russia, Communism, etc.

          I can recommend lemmus.org as a very fast and efficient instance. Remember, you don't have to have an account on the instance who's communities you want to access. You can access communities on all instances from any instance. So the policies of your home instance don't really affect you much. They only affect the communities hosted there.

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          Sundray
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          I can 2nd lemmus.org, it's pretty chill over here. The admin has blocked the creation of new communities for the time being however, so if you want to start a new comm you're better off looking elsewhere.

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          • SundrayS Sundray

            I can 2nd lemmus.org, it's pretty chill over here. The admin has blocked the creation of new communities for the time being however, so if you want to start a new comm you're better off looking elsewhere.

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            realitista@lemmus.org
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            #70

            Yeah I look to bigger instances to host communities I create and smaller ones to host my account for speed.

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              franconian_nomad@feddit.org
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              There are apologists of genocide in this communities? Where?

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              • F franconian_nomad@feddit.org

                There are apologists of genocide in this communities? Where?

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                Maeve
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                #72

                The creator is a Zionist. Eta: as well as the most prolific contributors.

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                • artyomA artyom

                  Lemmy was created by Chinese state actors, so no surprise there.

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                  thoro@lemmy.ml
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                  Piefed was created by the CIA, NSA, and Kissinger's ghost.

                  You can tell in the name.

                  Fed.

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                  • NutomicN Nutomic

                    You can export your settings, remove everything unrelated to blocks, and share it. Then other users can import the json file and it will be added to their existing blocklist.

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                    realitista@lemmus.org
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                    Good hint, but there needs to be an online registry of them where you can subscribe to them and get updates automatically when they change. This is how Bluesky works and it works very well.

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                    • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                      Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                      Cowbee [he/they]
                      wrote last edited by cowbee@lemmy.ml
                      #75

                      There are a lot of people supportive of the PRC, both because the US Empire is declining and the PRC is positioned as an alternative to the US Empire's naked terrorism, and because Lemmy has a lot of communists. Lemmy has a lot of communists because the lead developers are communists, FOSS attracts communists, and because as Reddit bans communist communities they are often suggested to come here.

                      There's absolutely no credible evidence of CPC interference in Lemmy, this is a normal thing to happen to a FOSS alternative to Reddit.

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                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                        Not dominated by Chinese, Russian nor Western state actors. That's all I'm asking for. Where truth isn't censored.

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                        myrmidex@belgae.social
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                        #76

                        Where truth isn’t censored

                        Self-hosting seems your only option then. You might be cut off from other instances if they decide to defederate, but at least on your instance you'll be able to enjoy free speech (and block unwanted speech).

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                          franconian_nomad@feddit.org
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                          #77

                          You know, without proof that sounds very much like a whataboutism…

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                            алсааас [she/her]
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                            You could have just said "rabidly anti-tankie people" LMAO

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                            • F franconian_nomad@feddit.org

                              You know, without proof that sounds very much like a whataboutism…

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                              алсааас [she/her]
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                              If you know anything about Goat and PugJesus...

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                              • artyomA artyom

                                Lemmy was created by Chinese state actors, so no surprise there.

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                                алсааас [she/her]
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                                ahem

                                piefed.social

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                                • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                  I'm so embarrassed I've been using a tankie instance without knowing it for months and only recently realized it

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                                  алсааас [she/her]
                                  wrote last edited by alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                  #81

                                  Well you can listen to all the Hitlerites from axiss.world if you like. Or actually interact with politically literate people on .ml

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                                  • алсааас [she/her]A алсааас [she/her]

                                    If you know anything about Goat and PugJesus...

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                                    Maeve
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                                    Since we're name-dropping. Phillipthebucket

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                                    • алсааас [she/her]A алсааас [she/her]

                                      You could have just said "rabidly anti-tankie people" LMAO

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                                      Maeve
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                                      Heavily propagandized people by the governments that brought Operation Paperclip and Victims of Communism memorials that never happened because oops, all Nazis.

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                                      • T technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                        Yes, imperial propaganda is completely normal and overwhelming. It doesn't matter which empire. They're all working together under global capitalism.

                                        But it's brainwashed sinophobia to blame only "China".

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                                        Maeve
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                                        And Russia

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                                        • libertylizard@slrpnk.netL libertylizard@slrpnk.net

                                          I do too but some of it is hard to uproot. Someone has to put in the work to unravel it and it's often very difficult and unpopular work for the first experts to take that on.

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                                          mrdown@lemmy.world
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                                          There is less propaganda talking point that you think that can be debunked in 5 minutes. The same propaganda talking repeated points so they become so easy to recognize. You don't need to know the whole history of Russia and Ukraine to know that Russian invasion is illegal, you don't need to know too much of the history of China or Taiwan to know that China has no right to take Taiwan, you don't need too much details to know that Israel is the settler colonial power and that settler colonialism is never justified . Visiting regularly the modlog it is pretty clear to me that mods of big communities do not intent to fight propaganda at all . One can't expect all propagandist comments and posts to be removed but can expect some to be removed when they are reported

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