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Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse

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  • artyomA artyom

    Lemmy was created by Chinese state actors, so no surprise there.

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    thoro@lemmy.ml
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    #73

    Piefed was created by the CIA, NSA, and Kissinger's ghost.

    You can tell in the name.

    Fed.

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    • NutomicN Nutomic

      You can export your settings, remove everything unrelated to blocks, and share it. Then other users can import the json file and it will be added to their existing blocklist.

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      realitista@lemmus.org
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      Good hint, but there needs to be an online registry of them where you can subscribe to them and get updates automatically when they change. This is how Bluesky works and it works very well.

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      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

        Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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        #75

        There are a lot of people supportive of the PRC, both because the US Empire is declining and the PRC is positioned as an alternative to the US Empire's naked terrorism, and because Lemmy has a lot of communists. Lemmy has a lot of communists because the lead developers are communists, FOSS attracts communists, and because as Reddit bans communist communities they are often suggested to come here.

        There's absolutely no credible evidence of CPC interference in Lemmy, this is a normal thing to happen to a FOSS alternative to Reddit.

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        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

          Not dominated by Chinese, Russian nor Western state actors. That's all I'm asking for. Where truth isn't censored.

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          myrmidex@belgae.social
          wrote last edited by myrmidex@belgae.social
          #76

          Where truth isn’t censored

          Self-hosting seems your only option then. You might be cut off from other instances if they decide to defederate, but at least on your instance you'll be able to enjoy free speech (and block unwanted speech).

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            franconian_nomad@feddit.org
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            #77

            You know, without proof that sounds very much like a whataboutism…

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              алсааас [she/her]
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              #78

              You could have just said "rabidly anti-tankie people" LMAO

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              • F franconian_nomad@feddit.org

                You know, without proof that sounds very much like a whataboutism…

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                алсааас [she/her]
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                #79

                If you know anything about Goat and PugJesus...

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                • artyomA artyom

                  Lemmy was created by Chinese state actors, so no surprise there.

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                  алсааас [she/her]
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                  #80

                  ahem

                  piefed.social

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                  • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                    I'm so embarrassed I've been using a tankie instance without knowing it for months and only recently realized it

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                    алсааас [she/her]
                    wrote last edited by alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                    #81

                    Well you can listen to all the Hitlerites from axiss.world if you like. Or actually interact with politically literate people on .ml

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                    • алсааас [she/her]A алсааас [she/her]

                      If you know anything about Goat and PugJesus...

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                      Maeve
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                      #82

                      Since we're name-dropping. Phillipthebucket

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                      • алсааас [she/her]A алсааас [she/her]

                        You could have just said "rabidly anti-tankie people" LMAO

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                        Maeve
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                        #83

                        Heavily propagandized people by the governments that brought Operation Paperclip and Victims of Communism memorials that never happened because oops, all Nazis.

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                        • T technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          Yes, imperial propaganda is completely normal and overwhelming. It doesn't matter which empire. They're all working together under global capitalism.

                          But it's brainwashed sinophobia to blame only "China".

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                          Maeve
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                          And Russia

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                          • libertylizard@slrpnk.netL libertylizard@slrpnk.net

                            I do too but some of it is hard to uproot. Someone has to put in the work to unravel it and it's often very difficult and unpopular work for the first experts to take that on.

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                            mrdown@lemmy.world
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                            There is less propaganda talking point that you think that can be debunked in 5 minutes. The same propaganda talking repeated points so they become so easy to recognize. You don't need to know the whole history of Russia and Ukraine to know that Russian invasion is illegal, you don't need to know too much of the history of China or Taiwan to know that China has no right to take Taiwan, you don't need too much details to know that Israel is the settler colonial power and that settler colonialism is never justified . Visiting regularly the modlog it is pretty clear to me that mods of big communities do not intent to fight propaganda at all . One can't expect all propagandist comments and posts to be removed but can expect some to be removed when they are reported

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                            • L lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org

                              Facts or tits. Provide one.

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                              • алсааас [she/her]A алсааас [she/her]

                                If you know anything about Goat and PugJesus...

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                                franconian_nomad@feddit.org
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                                Well I guess no answer in this case is a very loud answer.

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                                • artyomA artyom

                                  Lemmy was created by Chinese state actors, so no surprise there.

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                                  Cowbee [he/they]
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                                  Do you have any evidence backing this claim up, or is this the way you've decided to rationalize a greater portion of people being pro-PRC?

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                                  • F franconian_nomad@feddit.org

                                    Well I guess no answer in this case is a very loud answer.

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                                    алсааас [she/her]
                                    wrote last edited by alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                    #89

                                    Diggaaaa, you can just look the users, their posts, their communities and how they moderate them (modlogs) up.

                                    No need to spoonfeed you like a child

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                                    • artyomA artyom

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                                      #90

                                      2 great tits! They're really beautiful.

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                                      • алсааас [she/her]A алсааас [she/her]

                                        Diggaaaa, you can just look the users, their posts, their communities and how they moderate them (modlogs) up.

                                        No need to spoonfeed you like a child

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                                        franconian_nomad@feddit.org
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                                        Diggaah, if you claim something the proof of burden is on your side!

                                        Funny. I don’t know all of this users, but I know pugjesus and haven’t seen one pro-genocide post from him ever, but a shit ton educational history memes….

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                                        • artyomA artyom

                                          It's widely-know. Just have to look at the post history of the creators. Particularly Desalines or whatever.

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                                          Cowbee [he/they]
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                                          Opinions are not evidence of state funding.

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