Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse

[maeve@kbin.earth]

Since we're name-dropping. Phillipthebucket

[maeve@kbin.earth]

Heavily propagandized people by the governments that brought Operation Paperclip and Victims of Communism memorials that never happened because oops, all Nazis.

[maeve@kbin.earth]

And Russia

[mrdown@lemmy.world]

There is less propaganda talking point that you think that can be debunked in 5 minutes. The same propaganda talking repeated points so they become so easy to recognize. You don't need to know the whole history of Russia and Ukraine to know that Russian invasion is illegal, you don't need to know too much of the history of China or Taiwan to know that China has no right to take Taiwan, you don't need too much details to know that Israel is the settler colonial power and that settler colonialism is never justified . Visiting regularly the modlog it is pretty clear to me that mods of big communities do not intent to fight propaganda at all . One can't expect all propagandist comments and posts to be removed but can expect some to be removed when they are reported

[artyom@piefed.social]

[franconian_nomad@feddit.org]

Well I guess no answer in this case is a very loud answer.

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

Do you have any evidence backing this claim up, or is this the way you've decided to rationalize a greater portion of people being pro-PRC?

[alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Diggaaaa, you can just look the users, their posts, their communities and how they moderate them (modlogs) up.

No need to spoonfeed you like a child

[edie@lemmy.ml]

2 great tits! They're really beautiful.

[franconian_nomad@feddit.org]

Diggaah, if you claim something the proof of burden is on your side!

Funny. I don’t know all of this users, but I know pugjesus and haven’t seen one pro-genocide post from him ever, but a shit ton educational history memes….

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

Opinions are not evidence of state funding.

[artyom@piefed.social]

Who said anything about state funding? Opinions are sometimes not opinions at all, just propaganda from state actors.

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

What do you mean by "state actor" if not someone funded, paid, or otherwise supported by a state? Is just being a fan of China being a state actor?

[artyom@piefed.social]

otherwise supported

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

Do you have evidence of Dessalines, or any other Lemmy dev, being supported by the CPC?

[comfy@lemmy.ml]

On the topic, I've been seeing plenty of war-hawk think-tank accounts who only post propaganda, like:

• Scotty@scribe.disroot.org
• Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org
• randomname@scribe.disroot.org
• 0x815@feddit.org (and all their alt-accounts, including 0x815@feddit.de and thelucky8@beehaw.org )

They are clearly not involved in our communities.

[artyom@piefed.social]

AKA "whataboutism".

[jubilantjaguar@lemmy.world]

Ironically, the most active user on the current #2 China community, !china@sopuli.xyz, is an absolutely indefatigable anti-Chinese propagandist.

This person, @Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org posts multiple times per day, usually quite sensible and well-sourced articles, but always on the same downer subjects (repression, Uighurs, corruption and so on) and never anything that paints China (let alone its government) in the slightest positive light. Since nobody else in this community can match their posting stamina, the end result is a community that, to newcomers, looks like one rando's "I hate China" blog. Hardly surprising that it's not a very successful community.

I've asked this user to consider dropping the tempo a bit, and been met with defensiveness. I complained in private to the mod, who is completely AWOL, and they didn't care. Oh well.

[umbrella@lemmy.ml]

leftists* are rampant on the fediverse

[nutomic@lemmy.ml]

Defederations and bans essentially work like a shared blocklist for all users on that instance. Plus you get a local feed with other users who have similar interests, and blocked users/instances don't use local server resources.

Subscribing to a blocklist seems risky, because it's likely that many users would subscribe to a single, popular blocklist. Then it would become a centralised point of control which can silence people across much of the Lemmyverse.