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Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse

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  • алсааас [she/her]A алсааас [she/her]

    If you know anything about Goat and PugJesus...

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    franconian_nomad@feddit.org
    wrote last edited by
    #87

    Well I guess no answer in this case is a very loud answer.

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    • artyomA artyom

      Lemmy was created by Chinese state actors, so no surprise there.

      Cowbee [he/they]C This user is from outside of this forum
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      Cowbee [he/they]
      wrote last edited by
      #88

      Do you have any evidence backing this claim up, or is this the way you've decided to rationalize a greater portion of people being pro-PRC?

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      • F franconian_nomad@feddit.org

        Well I guess no answer in this case is a very loud answer.

        алсааас [she/her]A This user is from outside of this forum
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        алсааас [she/her]
        wrote last edited by alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        #89

        Diggaaaa, you can just look the users, their posts, their communities and how they moderate them (modlogs) up.

        No need to spoonfeed you like a child

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        • artyomA artyom

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          #90

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          • алсааас [she/her]A алсааас [she/her]

            Diggaaaa, you can just look the users, their posts, their communities and how they moderate them (modlogs) up.

            No need to spoonfeed you like a child

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            franconian_nomad@feddit.org
            wrote last edited by
            #91

            Diggaah, if you claim something the proof of burden is on your side!

            Funny. I don’t know all of this users, but I know pugjesus and haven’t seen one pro-genocide post from him ever, but a shit ton educational history memes….

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            • artyomA artyom

              It's widely-know. Just have to look at the post history of the creators. Particularly Desalines or whatever.

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              Cowbee [he/they]
              wrote last edited by
              #92

              Opinions are not evidence of state funding.

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              • Cowbee [he/they]C Cowbee [he/they]

                Opinions are not evidence of state funding.

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                artyom
                wrote last edited by
                #93

                Who said anything about state funding? Opinions are sometimes not opinions at all, just propaganda from state actors.

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                • artyomA artyom

                  Who said anything about state funding? Opinions are sometimes not opinions at all, just propaganda from state actors.

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                  Cowbee [he/they]
                  wrote last edited by
                  #94

                  What do you mean by "state actor" if not someone funded, paid, or otherwise supported by a state? Is just being a fan of China being a state actor?

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                  • Cowbee [he/they]C Cowbee [he/they]

                    What do you mean by "state actor" if not someone funded, paid, or otherwise supported by a state? Is just being a fan of China being a state actor?

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                    artyom
                    wrote last edited by
                    #95

                    otherwise supported

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                    • artyomA artyom

                      otherwise supported

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                      Cowbee [he/they]
                      wrote last edited by
                      #96

                      Do you have evidence of Dessalines, or any other Lemmy dev, being supported by the CPC?

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                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                        Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                        comfy
                        wrote last edited by
                        #97

                        On the topic, I've been seeing plenty of war-hawk think-tank accounts who only post propaganda, like:

                        • Scotty@scribe.disroot.org
                        • Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org
                        • randomname@scribe.disroot.org
                        • 0x815@feddit.org (and all their alt-accounts, including 0x815@feddit.de and thelucky8@beehaw.org )

                        They are clearly not involved in our communities.

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                        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                          What you’re describing is false moral equivalence used as a deflective propaganda strategy.

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                          artyom
                          wrote last edited by
                          #98

                          AKA "whataboutism".

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                          • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                            Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                            jubilantjaguar@lemmy.world
                            wrote last edited by
                            #99

                            Ironically, the most active user on the current #2 China community, !china@sopuli.xyz, is an absolutely indefatigable anti-Chinese propagandist.

                            This person, @Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org posts multiple times per day, usually quite sensible and well-sourced articles, but always on the same downer subjects (repression, Uighurs, corruption and so on) and never anything that paints China (let alone its government) in the slightest positive light. Since nobody else in this community can match their posting stamina, the end result is a community that, to newcomers, looks like one rando's "I hate China" blog. Hardly surprising that it's not a very successful community.

                            I've asked this user to consider dropping the tempo a bit, and been met with defensiveness. I complained in private to the mod, who is completely AWOL, and they didn't care. Oh well.

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                            • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                              Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                              wrote last edited by
                              #100

                              leftists* are rampant on the fediverse

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                              • R realitista@lemmus.org

                                Good hint, but there needs to be an online registry of them where you can subscribe to them and get updates automatically when they change. This is how Bluesky works and it works very well.

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                                Nutomic
                                wrote last edited by nutomic@lemmy.ml
                                #101

                                Defederations and bans essentially work like a shared blocklist for all users on that instance. Plus you get a local feed with other users who have similar interests, and blocked users/instances don't use local server resources.

                                Subscribing to a blocklist seems risky, because it's likely that many users would subscribe to a single, popular blocklist. Then it would become a centralised point of control which can silence people across much of the Lemmyverse.

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                                • comfyC comfy

                                  On the topic, I've been seeing plenty of war-hawk think-tank accounts who only post propaganda, like:

                                  • Scotty@scribe.disroot.org
                                  • Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org
                                  • randomname@scribe.disroot.org
                                  • 0x815@feddit.org (and all their alt-accounts, including 0x815@feddit.de and thelucky8@beehaw.org )

                                  They are clearly not involved in our communities.

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                                  Maeve
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #102

                                  https://lemmy.ml/comment/22522523

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                                  • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                    So they're trying to capture mind share of technologists. Nice play, I'm embarrassed.

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                                    whaleross@lemmy.world
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #103

                                    Register on a different instance and filter everything ml. It's a life changer with the Fediverse.

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                                    • NutomicN Nutomic

                                      Defederations and bans essentially work like a shared blocklist for all users on that instance. Plus you get a local feed with other users who have similar interests, and blocked users/instances don't use local server resources.

                                      Subscribing to a blocklist seems risky, because it's likely that many users would subscribe to a single, popular blocklist. Then it would become a centralised point of control which can silence people across much of the Lemmyverse.

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                                      realitista@lemmus.org
                                      wrote last edited by realitista@lemmus.org
                                      #104

                                      Yes, but I'd rather be able to control it myself than try to find a whole instance that perfectly matches my needs. You can always unsubscribe from the blocklists.

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                                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                        Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                                        braininabox@lemmy.ml
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #105

                                        Do you have a shred of actual evidence for this? Or is it just the standard lib ad-hom of accusing those who disagree of being evil foreigners?

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                                        • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                          I'm so embarrassed I've been using a tankie instance without knowing it for months and only recently realized it

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                                          HarkMahlberg
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #106

                                          Don't worry OP, you could always move to a different instance. You've already done the hard part, figuring them out lol.

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