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  • F fyrilsol

    Diablo IV, for me. I love the Diablo series and just a bit ago, I sank 2 hours down to get my necromancer character up and set in Diablo II Resurrection. I have Diablo III and its expansion too, but they're online only and I almost can't be bothered to go through that. I've beaten it a long time ago.

    And I really do want to get Diablo IV, but they've made that online-only as well. Like, I know I'm always online and everything but I do like to have that fallback where if I am without internet or I can't afford internet for a time, I can play or watch things to bide the time over. I can't do that with online-only games because it's like being gated away from something you bought.

    So everytime I look at Diablo IV, I just get a little depressed at times. Blizzard should do what D2R did, have an online character and have an offline character.

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    katana314@lemmy.world
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    I love the story of Final Fantasy XIV, but it can easily categorize as "One of the most expensive singleplayer games of all time". On top of buying the expansions, you'll need to pay for each month you play; and unless someone's really speedrunning, that will start to add up. Worse, for a first timer setting up their account, their website and payment system is really stuck in 1998, making giving them money an obtuse task. And, while the story has its great moments and excellent side content, a depressing amount of it is extensive polite dialog with just simple quests where you move to a location and right-click on someone. I've finished Dawntrail, and am glad I experienced it, but I can't blame anyone who sees it all as beyond them.

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    • F fatalicus

      Clair obscur.

      It looks so good, and the music is great, and story is apparently fantastic, but I just can not get the hang of the counter/block mechanic in combats, and without it the battles are pretty much impossible.

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      asmoranomar@lemmy.world
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      I haven't played since I beat it. But I did look into this after I did...

      In general, every time the screen zooms in, you need to act. What type is something you learn, but that cuts down on the timing aspect There are also audio queues, like a sort of woosh effect. I don't play a lot of fast response games like this, so I never noticed until it was pointed out.

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      • G Godort

        Outer Wilds.

        I very much want to play this game. It's everything I want from a detective puzzle game, but actually playing it gives me motion sickness.

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        katana314@lemmy.world
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        My issue was, I did not feel the expected experience of "Each loop, you learn something new." It was more like, every 7 loops, I might get into the thing I was repeatedly trying to enter; and then it might just be a bunch of random ancient messages that don't teach me anything. On top of that, I really hated the ship controls, especially when they veer AWAY from the autopilot path to pull me directly into the sun. If the game had been remade without any physics system, and simple direct puzzle mechanics, I might've enjoyed it more.

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        • M midsizedsedan@lemmy.world

          Shaun has a video essay on Stellar Blade. According to him, its very much "can I copy your homework" of Nier Automata, and some sekiro gameplay.

          I have only played the the later 2. Nier Automata is something I will never forget, and (IMO) Sekiro is the best Fromsoft+Combat game. Highly recomend both of them

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          katana314@lemmy.world
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          I stopped Nier Automata midway because it felt completely awful. Then I was sternly motivated by someone to give it a full go and finish it all the way, and it got EVEN WORSE.

          Stellar Blade, though, made the gameplay very enjoyable; and its writing, while following a very similar theme, didn't feel nearly so excessively ultra-grimdark. It kept some core reveals for close to the end (I guess unless you were paying attention to what few audio logs amounted to more than just "They're coming...! Agh! We're all dead.") but I liked the dilemma it posed.

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          • P pressanykeynow@lemmy.world

            You can play Bloodborne via an emulator.

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            jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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            I've heard this but I haven't taken the time to find a rom and emulator and get it working (on Linux)

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            • F fyrilsol

              Diablo IV, for me. I love the Diablo series and just a bit ago, I sank 2 hours down to get my necromancer character up and set in Diablo II Resurrection. I have Diablo III and its expansion too, but they're online only and I almost can't be bothered to go through that. I've beaten it a long time ago.

              And I really do want to get Diablo IV, but they've made that online-only as well. Like, I know I'm always online and everything but I do like to have that fallback where if I am without internet or I can't afford internet for a time, I can play or watch things to bide the time over. I can't do that with online-only games because it's like being gated away from something you bought.

              So everytime I look at Diablo IV, I just get a little depressed at times. Blizzard should do what D2R did, have an online character and have an offline character.

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              Breath of the wild
              God of war (ps4)
              God of war (ps5)
              Resident evil village
              Super Mario whatever the switch one is

              I'm midway through all of these except the god of war sequel but life has taken over. I miss gaming.

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              • kazerniel@lemmy.worldK kazerniel@lemmy.world

                Cyberpunk 2077 - it still doesn't go on steep enough sales to justify buying when I have hundreds of unplayed games on Steam. But I'm keeping an eye on its downward progress. Maybe when it reaches £10-13...

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                redditrefugee69@lemmynsfw.com
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                It's still a buggy mess, but it's usually very pretty and occasionally fun.

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                • I innermachine@lemmy.world

                  I played before phantom liberty and thought it was a neat enough game. Maybe I should give it another shot.

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                  locahosr443@lemmy.world
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                  I wish I could go back and never experience it before PL. It's what it should have been at release, took me ages to get around to trying it after the broken and underwhelming early versions because the main story was long and linear. I'm glad I did though, it's an entirely different experience

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                  • kazerniel@lemmy.worldK kazerniel@lemmy.world

                    Clair Obscur for me too, but because of the AI art controversy. I can't stand AI, even if temporary, even if just store banners, I just can't trust the company from then on not to sneak it into other areas.

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                    dustydata@lemmy.world
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                    #135

                    They didn't sneak anything and they never will. Looked into it deeply. They used AI assets as placeholders during development. But everything in the shipped game is human-made. No further use of generative AI is expected, since the game awards controversy the company's management published a statement of banning AI use entirely in their company.

                    The whole controversy around indie game awards was also blown beyond proportions. A company used a new technology at a time when the tech was new and the debate around it's use was still inmature. Then dismissed it for it was not good enough. They failed at quality assurance and a couple of textures weren't deleted. They replaced them as soon at they found out. By all intents and purposes, this controversy does not qualify sandfall as an AI using company, and to affirm so is ignorant of the context of all that went down in reality.

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                    • A abundance114@lemmy.world

                      I would create ten different accounts to play a game that's the quality of rdr2.

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                      yeehaw
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                      Ya maybe one day. I also morally don't want to support that behaviour.

                      Elden ring is the gold standard for me in multiplayer. It's optional. It just requires you to be online. No account creation bullshit. And it's a quality game also.

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                      • F fyrilsol

                        Diablo IV, for me. I love the Diablo series and just a bit ago, I sank 2 hours down to get my necromancer character up and set in Diablo II Resurrection. I have Diablo III and its expansion too, but they're online only and I almost can't be bothered to go through that. I've beaten it a long time ago.

                        And I really do want to get Diablo IV, but they've made that online-only as well. Like, I know I'm always online and everything but I do like to have that fallback where if I am without internet or I can't afford internet for a time, I can play or watch things to bide the time over. I can't do that with online-only games because it's like being gated away from something you bought.

                        So everytime I look at Diablo IV, I just get a little depressed at times. Blizzard should do what D2R did, have an online character and have an offline character.

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                        ameancow@lemmy.world
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                        #137

                        I'd love to play Baldur's Gate 3 with a diverse group of real people and share an adventure together, but have no friends who enjoy games that aren't mindless slop.

                        Same with other slow-burn games like Project Zomboid and other survival/crafting games.

                        I learned to do slop to hang out with others, I even got good at slop like Rivals just to keep social contact alive. But I can't drag anyone into a game that doesn't have 2-minute matches filled with flashing lights and colors and gambling mini-games.

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                          Breath of the wild
                          God of war (ps4)
                          God of war (ps5)
                          Resident evil village
                          Super Mario whatever the switch one is

                          I'm midway through all of these except the god of war sequel but life has taken over. I miss gaming.

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                          johnnixon@lemmy.world
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                          I watched a friend beat TOTK so I just ran around and tried to 100% the game rather than beating it. Slower times too.

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                          • kazerniel@lemmy.worldK kazerniel@lemmy.world

                            Cyberpunk 2077 - it still doesn't go on steep enough sales to justify buying when I have hundreds of unplayed games on Steam. But I'm keeping an eye on its downward progress. Maybe when it reaches £10-13...

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                            ameancow@lemmy.world
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                            I'm also waiting for it to hit a low-enough price to justify the amount of time I will lose just trying to mod the thing into a playable, enjoyable state.

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                            • C yeehaw

                              Ya maybe one day. I also morally don't want to support that behaviour.

                              Elden ring is the gold standard for me in multiplayer. It's optional. It just requires you to be online. No account creation bullshit. And it's a quality game also.

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                              Jiří Hazekk
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                              @cyberpunk007 @Abundance114 that is if you play on PC. other platforms might require subscriptions of some kind in order to enable multiplayer feature(s).

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                              • B botanicals@lemmy.world

                                Any of the Civilization games. I used to spend 10+ hours on a single session! My ass can't handle more than 1-2 now

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                                ameancow@lemmy.world
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                                #141

                                I keep trying Civ VI and keep uninstalling it before finishing a single game.

                                I can't put my finger on exactly what's changed since earlier games, but it's lost a lot of the addicting charm and intuitive flow that made me play prior versions for days. Also, the goofy-ass style and overly dramatic narrative starts to irk me.

                                If that's the trend of the franchise I sure won't be touching any of the later ones.

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                                • Don Antonio EuropioD Don Antonio Europio

                                  Did you have view bobbing in 2012? That’s probably about the last time I tried playing.

                                  I figured it were just the 2D/3D environments. Wolfenstein 3D and Doom make me nauseous as well.

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                                  atropos@lemmy.world
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                                  I couldn't find conclusive information for Wolfenstein 3D or Doom, but it seems to point toward bobbing being present for those as well.

                                  If it really seems like a game that might be otherwise fun, I'd recommend giving it a shot with bobbing/sway (however it is
                                  called) turned of.

                                  This also affects my wife, she has to have it off in order to enjoy any 3d, first person game.

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                                  • K katana314@lemmy.world

                                    I love the story of Final Fantasy XIV, but it can easily categorize as "One of the most expensive singleplayer games of all time". On top of buying the expansions, you'll need to pay for each month you play; and unless someone's really speedrunning, that will start to add up. Worse, for a first timer setting up their account, their website and payment system is really stuck in 1998, making giving them money an obtuse task. And, while the story has its great moments and excellent side content, a depressing amount of it is extensive polite dialog with just simple quests where you move to a location and right-click on someone. I've finished Dawntrail, and am glad I experienced it, but I can't blame anyone who sees it all as beyond them.

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                                    garretble@lemmy.world
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                                    Counterpoint: Someone can play up through Stormblood without having to buy anything.

                                    But, yeah, I agree. I don't really want to think about how much I've spent on this one game over the last 12 years. But roughly spitballing:

                                    • ARR, Heavensward, Stormblood, Shadowbringers, Endwalker, Dawntrail...I'll say that's 6 x $40 (not accurate since I bought special editions for some and moved from PS3 to Pc so that's an extra cost there, too): $240
                                    • $13/m for 11 years (I've played ARR since launch but there have been some times where I turned off my sub for a little bit so I'll just knock off 12 months): 13 x 12 x 11 = $1,716
                                    • Various Mogstation purchases, roughly $40?
                                    • Total for me with this napkin math: $1,996

                                    Woof. But, I do love the game and spent all weekend playing it just now. So there's worse things to spend money on.

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                                    • Don Antonio EuropioD Don Antonio Europio

                                      Did you have view bobbing in 2012? That’s probably about the last time I tried playing.

                                      I figured it were just the 2D/3D environments. Wolfenstein 3D and Doom make me nauseous as well.

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                                      ameancow@lemmy.world
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                                      #144

                                      I know a number of people who have motion-sickness issues with games like this, it's almost entirely first-person games that cause this.

                                      Some things to consider from my years of assisting managing it:

                                      • You get motion sick because your eyes tell your brain that you're moving, but your inner-ear gyroscopes say you're not, so your brain assumes you must be infected with something so it starts measures to evacuate your stomach of potential poison.

                                      • View bobbing, screen-shaking, depth-of-field, motion-blur and frame-rates have a huge impact on your sense of balance and visual processing of motion, so try to always turn those off. (Minecraft has had view bobbing since early on, it's always "step one" to turn it off for everyone.)

                                      • Framerates also can make you sick. If you're playing an first-person game and the field of view isn't moving smoothly it will be more likely to make you start to feel nauseous. Turn graphics settings down until your frame-rates are at least 40 or so. (You would have to look up the game and/or platform to figure out how to turn on FPS display on your screen to see where you're at.)

                                      • The brain is highly elastic for learning new things, but also learns negative associations. This means sometimes you have to train it like a toddler or puppy. Patiently and with persistence. This can take the form of only playing for 15 minutes instead of waiting until you start to get nauseous. You need to train your brain that the viewing experience isn't actually harmful by disconnecting the association with feeling sick, by getting used to the game without triggering the motion sickness. So frequent, short sessions, not letting yourself get sick. (This is the most effective method anyone I know has tried.)

                                      • Medication. Seriously, anti-histamines work pretty effectively. Motion-sickness pills are literally just anti-allergy medication. It will make you very quite groggy though so don't plan on staying up late playing. Chewable nausea tablets also help a lot. Again, you're just trying to let your brain adapt to a new perspective/activity without getting fully sick, so think of medications as a temporary measure to get to that adaptation point.

                                      • Field of view is also a huge factor. Try turning it up or down, most 3D games give you the option. Additionally, playing on a smaller screen can help a lot too. Play in windowed mode and gradually work on making the screen larger and larger until you've adapted.

                                      • Engagement in the game also helps. Once you start having fun you will often forget about the negative sensations and give your brain more time to adapt. If you're not enjoying a game, don't force it. Try a different one until you find some mechanic you enjoy that hooks you.

                                      • After adaptation, you would likely also need to periodically "refresh" it and play a 3D game for a little while every day or you will slip back into motion-sickness triggers again easily.

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                                      • A abundance114@lemmy.world

                                        I could get info that game either. It looks amazing. I'm sure the experience is great, but it never really grabbed me.

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                                        ameancow@lemmy.world
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                                        #145

                                        It was marketed as a game, when really it's an interactive novel. If you don't like that kind of experience, you won't like it.

                                        (But as far as novels go, it was one of the best, the story continues to open up paths and deep-dives into lore and philosophy branching ever deeper and further, while telling a story of personal tragedy.)

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                                        • A abundance114@lemmy.world

                                          I'll straight up admit that I can't compete in most pvp titles; and I don't want to be a loot goblin for the high school kids who are going to 360 no-scope headshot me from across the map and then tea bag my corpse.

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                                          ameancow@lemmy.world
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                                          Arc Raiders took this trope and turned it on its head. The game is entirely about being a loot goblin around other people in a no-rules environment but if you don't pick fights, you will gradually get matched to servers with other people who don't pick fights, and you start to meet people and have adventures together, it happens very organically and pleasantly, and if you ever DO run into a PvPer the game doesn't really give a huge advantage to sweaty try-hards, a newb with a basic gun can defend themselves just as well as some well-equipped player hunter.

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