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  • T tatann@lemmy.world

    I ended up using the auto-parry/block mod, but it means you're practically invulnerable, you only need to do the jump and radiant attack counters

    https://www.nexusmods.com/clairobscurexpedition33/mods/478

    There's also a mod to increase the block/parry "period"

    https://www.nexusmods.com/clairobscurexpedition33/mods/28

    I still hope there will be a mod to have the dodge/parry based on your stats (agility/luck), to feel like it's a RPG and not a souls-like game

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    fatalicus
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    I'll have to look at the mod to increase the block/parry period, to see if that is my issue.

    cheers!

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    • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA ampersandrew@lemmy.world

      I'd argue that a game like Fallout, 1 or 3, is not 99% combat, and that's probably where the disconnect is. They intend for you to do some detective work and even solve problems without combat plenty of times too, even when you have a combat-heavy build. Pokemon is a strange one here too, because that series is built around a rock paper scissors system such that you should be regularly be switching up which attacks you're using. I'd love to see if your complaints hold up to Larian's games on tactician difficulty.

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      PlzGivHugs
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      #156

      Fallout 1 or 3, is not 99% combat

      By time spent, I wouldn't be suprised if nearing that (99%) is either going to be walking to the next location (quest or not) and fighting enemies to clear the path. Yes, you'll spend a bit of time talking to NPCs to retrieve the quest, and on some of the better designed quests, there might be some alternative routes, but traversal and combat are still usually the focus and/or the default. When you do have a reason to use other mechanics, or make meaningful story decisions, its good - but those chances are rare.

      Pokemon is a strange one here too, because that series is built around a rock paper scissors system such that you should be regularly be switching up which attacks you're using.

      I did oversimplify, but I still find it, and other JRPGs I've tried way too shallow. In Pokemon's case, while there is the typing, theres is still usually an one obvious best move at any given point. I do find Pokemon better than many others, in that there is much more ability and reason to customize your party on an ongoing basis, although they largely negate this benifit by making the games so easy.

      I'd love to see if your complaints hold up to Larian's games on tactician difficulty.

      Honestly, I would be interested too. The format with a larger party does interest me, and like I said, I do like a lot of tactics games like XCom and Fire Emblem, which are bordering on RPGs mechanically. I just don't have the money to spend on new games for the time being, so I probably won't be trying it until its price goes way down.

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      • P PlzGivHugs

        Fallout 1 or 3, is not 99% combat

        By time spent, I wouldn't be suprised if nearing that (99%) is either going to be walking to the next location (quest or not) and fighting enemies to clear the path. Yes, you'll spend a bit of time talking to NPCs to retrieve the quest, and on some of the better designed quests, there might be some alternative routes, but traversal and combat are still usually the focus and/or the default. When you do have a reason to use other mechanics, or make meaningful story decisions, its good - but those chances are rare.

        Pokemon is a strange one here too, because that series is built around a rock paper scissors system such that you should be regularly be switching up which attacks you're using.

        I did oversimplify, but I still find it, and other JRPGs I've tried way too shallow. In Pokemon's case, while there is the typing, theres is still usually an one obvious best move at any given point. I do find Pokemon better than many others, in that there is much more ability and reason to customize your party on an ongoing basis, although they largely negate this benifit by making the games so easy.

        I'd love to see if your complaints hold up to Larian's games on tactician difficulty.

        Honestly, I would be interested too. The format with a larger party does interest me, and like I said, I do like a lot of tactics games like XCom and Fire Emblem, which are bordering on RPGs mechanically. I just don't have the money to spend on new games for the time being, so I probably won't be trying it until its price goes way down.

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        ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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        #157

        Larian's party size is only 4, so it's not much larger. Your breakdown of your spent time in Fallout sounds a lot like you're trying to speedrun it compared to how I play it (I'd be surprised if you stood much of a chance in late game Fallout without giving combat more thought), so the differences in how we play it is probably somewhere there, and I think Larian's games will probably force you to engage in more of those aspects in order to get through them. Divinity: Original Sin II regularly goes on sale for quite cheap these days, but I'd be lying if I told you it was anywhere near as good as Baldur's Gate 3 despite having a lot of the same DNA. For one, the D:OS games just about encourage the genocide of every monster on the map in a way that BG3 doesn't, but at least I'd strongly doubt your ability to play through the combat thoughtlessly.

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        • F fyrilsol

          Diablo IV, for me. I love the Diablo series and just a bit ago, I sank 2 hours down to get my necromancer character up and set in Diablo II Resurrection. I have Diablo III and its expansion too, but they're online only and I almost can't be bothered to go through that. I've beaten it a long time ago.

          And I really do want to get Diablo IV, but they've made that online-only as well. Like, I know I'm always online and everything but I do like to have that fallback where if I am without internet or I can't afford internet for a time, I can play or watch things to bide the time over. I can't do that with online-only games because it's like being gated away from something you bought.

          So everytime I look at Diablo IV, I just get a little depressed at times. Blizzard should do what D2R did, have an online character and have an offline character.

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          Magiilaro
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          There are a few games that I would like to play but can't because they have awefull cellshader graphics. I really don't give anything about graphics most of the time (I play lots of retro games after all) but for some reason is cellshader problematic. I can tolerate it when it is a very light cellshader effect, but some games like Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom have such a thick cellshadering that it is unbearable for me.
          Which is a shame, because I would love to play the games but can't.

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          • C chunes@lemmy.world

            Silksong. My muscle disease has progressed too much to physically play it. That really stings because Hollow Knight was one of my favorite games ever.

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            Brave Little Hitachi Wand
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            That fucking suuuuuuuuucks. I wonder if there's a mod that could accommodate you somehow. I'm not trying to spawn a big debate about difficulty in games here, but I really wish you'd be able to play it for yourself, somehow.

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            • I innermachine@lemmy.world

              I played before phantom liberty and thought it was a neat enough game. Maybe I should give it another shot.

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              blackmist@feddit.uk
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              Make sure to make a save at the appropriate point so you can do both paths.

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              • L locahosr443@lemmy.world

                I wish I could go back and never experience it before PL. It's what it should have been at release, took me ages to get around to trying it after the broken and underwhelming early versions because the main story was long and linear. I'm glad I did though, it's an entirely different experience

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                blackmist@feddit.uk
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                I think the base game is really a testament to the fact that CDPR have a lot of success with open world games, but don't really do them very well... They make really solid campaigns, and then pad them out with utter nonsense that kills the pacing stone-cold dead.

                "Oh hey, here's something really urgent. We cannot stress enough how urgent it is. By the way we've also just unlocked about a hundred side quests. Enjoy!"

                I'm still salty that I missed one of the ending achievements because if you follow the instructions it gives you, it will cause a fail state on that particular ending.

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                • R rooty@lemmy.world

                  I've bought the Witcher 3 for two different platforms, and I have neither the time or the patience to play it to completion.

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                  ameancow@lemmy.world
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                  I was in that pit for a while, it took me years to actually sit down and play it long enough to kind of figure out what to do and how to play, when I did it was very good. I still never had the time to actually finish it, but I highly recommend just pushing through that first barrier, it's worth it for at least a few days.

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                  • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

                    I was going to say diablo4 as well. Diablo1 and 2 were some of my favorite games in my youth, but I just don't want to give blizzard any more money. Path of exile 1 and 2 are good for the same itch.

                    Also any console exclusives. Bloodborne? Would love to play. Not buying a console. New Zelda and Mario? Same.

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                    ameancow@lemmy.world
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                    Diablo 2 was one of the best games of its type ever, and everything after has just been desperately trying to recapture that feeling. PoE was kind of close, but got a tad grindy. I like when a game just wraps up and you don't have an endless slog at the end to do completion sub-goals.

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                    • K katana314@lemmy.world

                      My issue was, I did not feel the expected experience of "Each loop, you learn something new." It was more like, every 7 loops, I might get into the thing I was repeatedly trying to enter; and then it might just be a bunch of random ancient messages that don't teach me anything. On top of that, I really hated the ship controls, especially when they veer AWAY from the autopilot path to pull me directly into the sun. If the game had been remade without any physics system, and simple direct puzzle mechanics, I might've enjoyed it more.

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                      ameancow@lemmy.world
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                      Yah I keep hearing fantastic things about the game, but I can't connect with the "looping" mechanic and the weird ship/floating controls make it hard to want to keep doing the same planets or whatever again and again.

                      And I mean, I KEEP trying to get to a place where I'm like "Oh yah, here we go again, lets do this" like with other games and it's just not happening. I can't find the fun part. Maybe I'm too old.

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                      • R rooty@lemmy.world

                        I've bought the Witcher 3 for two different platforms, and I have neither the time or the patience to play it to completion.

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                        fyrilsol
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                        People play games at their own pace. You have your own and there isn't a shred of shame in that.

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                        • F fyrilsol

                          Diablo IV, for me. I love the Diablo series and just a bit ago, I sank 2 hours down to get my necromancer character up and set in Diablo II Resurrection. I have Diablo III and its expansion too, but they're online only and I almost can't be bothered to go through that. I've beaten it a long time ago.

                          And I really do want to get Diablo IV, but they've made that online-only as well. Like, I know I'm always online and everything but I do like to have that fallback where if I am without internet or I can't afford internet for a time, I can play or watch things to bide the time over. I can't do that with online-only games because it's like being gated away from something you bought.

                          So everytime I look at Diablo IV, I just get a little depressed at times. Blizzard should do what D2R did, have an online character and have an offline character.

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                          World of Warcraft. I'm honestly at my happiest when all I have to worry about are dailies and raids. Unfortunately, that's not compatible with family life, my work, etc etc.

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                            I played it when it was in closed beta. And as a fan of Overwatch and previous LoL player, Deadlock was super fun to play. But combination of high mechanical requirement and knowledge requirement it is hard to enjoy the game as casual peopler. Thank god now there is light version of Deadlock as Overwatch Stadium.

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                            evotech@lemmy.world
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                            Just play at a low level and have fun

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                            • H hperrin@lemmy.ca

                              I’d love to play games like Fortnight, PUBG, and League of Legends (I know, don’t judge me), but they don’t work on Linux, so they’re just a no-go for me. I used to play GTA V Online, but they added kernel anticheat to that too, and now I don’t play that anymore.

                              I have Windows, but I’m not booting into another partition just to play a game. I use it for compiling my software for Windows users, and that’s already too much of a pain in the ass. I cannot stand Windows. It’s a bloated mess, and I don’t understand how anyone gets any actual work done on it. Just navigating it feels like a chore.

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                              evotech@lemmy.world
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                              #168

                              You can play Arc raiders and the finals 🙂 and dota and counter strike just to name a few

                              Plenty of other games like them to pick up

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                              • F fyrilsol

                                Diablo IV, for me. I love the Diablo series and just a bit ago, I sank 2 hours down to get my necromancer character up and set in Diablo II Resurrection. I have Diablo III and its expansion too, but they're online only and I almost can't be bothered to go through that. I've beaten it a long time ago.

                                And I really do want to get Diablo IV, but they've made that online-only as well. Like, I know I'm always online and everything but I do like to have that fallback where if I am without internet or I can't afford internet for a time, I can play or watch things to bide the time over. I can't do that with online-only games because it's like being gated away from something you bought.

                                So everytime I look at Diablo IV, I just get a little depressed at times. Blizzard should do what D2R did, have an online character and have an offline character.

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                                reksas@sopuli.xyz
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                                rust,

                                1. i'm on linux
                                2. its rust
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                                • A ameancow@lemmy.world

                                  I'd love to play Baldur's Gate 3 with a diverse group of real people and share an adventure together, but have no friends who enjoy games that aren't mindless slop.

                                  Same with other slow-burn games like Project Zomboid and other survival/crafting games.

                                  I learned to do slop to hang out with others, I even got good at slop like Rivals just to keep social contact alive. But I can't drag anyone into a game that doesn't have 2-minute matches filled with flashing lights and colors and gambling mini-games.

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                                  carnivorouscouch@lemmy.world
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                                  I'm in this boat with you. A few months ago I restarted my Valheim server for friends... And only one person joined me, for all of about 30 minutes. I spent a bunch of solo time just building up a base and trying not to progress too far so I wouldn't ruin the fun.

                                  I've been toying with the idea of doing a Zomboid server, too, but I know it will be the same. We'll play as a group maybe twice, and that will be it.

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                                    godwins_law@lemmy.ca
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                                    I'm a big fan of Last Epoch for ARPGs

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                                    • jordanlund@lemmy.worldJ jordanlund@lemmy.world

                                      Heard all the good things about Disco Elysium and found it on sale for the Steam Deck... Could not stand playing a character with traumatic brain injury. I thought I did something wrong generating the character, no, fanbase assures me that's the way it's supposed to be... Refunded it in less than an hour.

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                                      carnivorouscouch@lemmy.world
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                                      This was one I loved, but it wasn't at all what I expected when I read the Steam blurb. "Be the kind of cop you want to be" or some such nonsense.

                                      But, yeah, it's basically an existential novel masquerading as a game, and if you don't like (or at least find it interesting) spending time as the protagonist, then it makes sense to be a hard pass.

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                                      • obi@sopuli.xyzO obi@sopuli.xyz

                                        World of Warcraft. I'm honestly at my happiest when all I have to worry about are dailies and raids. Unfortunately, that's not compatible with family life, my work, etc etc.

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                                        beardededsquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                        Myself, I miss the memories I could form playing with friends on WoW. Not the game that much.

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                                        • C carnivorouscouch@lemmy.world

                                          I'm in this boat with you. A few months ago I restarted my Valheim server for friends... And only one person joined me, for all of about 30 minutes. I spent a bunch of solo time just building up a base and trying not to progress too far so I wouldn't ruin the fun.

                                          I've been toying with the idea of doing a Zomboid server, too, but I know it will be the same. We'll play as a group maybe twice, and that will be it.

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                                          ameancow@lemmy.world
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                                          I spent a bunch of solo time just building up a base and trying not to progress too far so I wouldn’t ruin the fun.

                                          I have about 20 games where I stopped before getting too far "just in case they decide to join me." Those games are now piled up in dusty, forgotten crates alongside the Ark of the Covenant in that same giant warehouse. I think I'm part of the slim margin of people who enjoy simulated hardships as a social bonding experience, I don't know if makes other people too bored, or too anxious, but I can't make people play hard, slow games where you have to rely on each other and talk through problems.

                                          I used to be able to, I had great success running groups in SCUM and Project Zomboid but as more and more short-attention-span gaming has been released, people have migrated away from investment-gaming and now just want to "chill" with some colorful slop and fast battle royals or loot extraction. Now when I ask if someone wants to play something like SCUM, they ask if we can play a server where loot and experience gain is turned up to max, enemy robots are disabled, and you can order high level gear from discord bots in chat.

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