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  • M mech@feddit.org

    Daggerfall.
    It has the most elaborate character creation and most freedom of choice of all the Elder Scrolls games.
    You can walk, ride or fly through an open world that's as large as Great Britain, with thousands of realistically modelled towns and cities, and enter any house in them. You can turn into a vampire, werewolf or were-boar, buy a ship, make deals with the gods, invent your own spells, and commit bank fraud.
    First time I played it, it took all night to download the 140MB installer from Kazaa.
    But actually playing it now, after so much development in game mechanics has happened, is a chore.
    When doing quests, you just go through the same loop of "talk to person, clear an absurdly huge dungeon, kill dozens of enemies that aren't scaled to your level, die a couple dozen times unless you cheesed the game to become invincible, solve a text riddle, find the McGuffin, return, repeat" over and over again.

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    fyrilsol
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    They really favored being a lycanthrope in that game. It's the most OP transformation, especially when you get a special ring that takes away some of the negatives of being a lycanthrope. All of your stats get maxed, you can instantly heal between transformations, you are immune from what the guards try hitting you with.

    Being a vampire in Daggerfall, isn't as fun.

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    • B bitjunkie@lemmy.world

      The Dark Souls series takes place in a fascinating universe and I'm sure the lore is enthralling… I just refuse to play games that are made artificially hard for the sake of it. If it's single-player, the devs shouldn't have an opinion on how much time each player is comfortable wasting on it. Give me "story" difficulty, cheats, etc., and let me decide what to do with them. All you're hurting are your own sales.

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      fyrilsol
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      Agreed.

      I love dark fantasy as a theme. But I can't enjoy the theme if the game is going to be padded like that. That's how you make games not fun and there's nothing fun when you're killed in one or two hits. There's challenge and then there's not fun and all soulslike games fall into the not fun part.

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      • kungfuratte@feddit.orgK kungfuratte@feddit.org

        Even if you don't mind the online only part, ignore this abomination. They botched the D4 campaign. It's too easy and almost impossible to die during the regular campaign. It takes roughly two minutes to beat a world boss on the first play through.

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        fyrilsol
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        That doesn't bother me. What made me gravitate to Diablo was how they did the story. The plot of evil vs good and angels vs demons in a eternal conflict is cliche and overdone. But I liked how Blizzard handled it and I've been glued to it for a while. Mephisto is my favorite character overall and damn they're having an expansion coming soon, that revolves around him, so my temptation will be even greater.

        So no it doesn't bother me that it's "too easy" or "almost impossible to die", because my idea of fun is not to have a very frustrating experience.

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        • G Godort

          Outer Wilds.

          I very much want to play this game. It's everything I want from a detective puzzle game, but actually playing it gives me motion sickness.

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          mech@feddit.org
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          I bought it and went in blind, just because I heard it's a really chill game with a great atmosphere.
          But then the twist happened, and now that I know, it gives me anxiety, so I can't enjoy it anymore.
          I simply can't play games with a time limit.
          Without that, it would be one of my favorites.

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          • M mech@feddit.org

            Daggerfall.
            It has the most elaborate character creation and most freedom of choice of all the Elder Scrolls games.
            You can walk, ride or fly through an open world that's as large as Great Britain, with thousands of realistically modelled towns and cities, and enter any house in them. You can turn into a vampire, werewolf or were-boar, buy a ship, make deals with the gods, invent your own spells, and commit bank fraud.
            First time I played it, it took all night to download the 140MB installer from Kazaa.
            But actually playing it now, after so much development in game mechanics has happened, is a chore.
            When doing quests, you just go through the same loop of "talk to person, clear an absurdly huge dungeon, kill dozens of enemies that aren't scaled to your level, die a couple dozen times unless you cheesed the game to become invincible, solve a text riddle, find the McGuffin, return, repeat" over and over again.

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            duelistsage@sh.itjust.works
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            #242

            When doing quests, you just go through the same loop of “talk to person, clear an absurdly huge dungeon, kill dozens of enemies that aren’t scaled to your level, die a couple dozen times unless you cheesed the game to become invincible, solve a text riddle, find the McGuffin, return, repeat” over and over again.

            That's pretty much all Elder Scrolls is. What's particularly impressive is that they've been releasing the same game since the 90s.

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            • B bitjunkie@lemmy.world

              The Dark Souls series takes place in a fascinating universe and I'm sure the lore is enthralling… I just refuse to play games that are made artificially hard for the sake of it. If it's single-player, the devs shouldn't have an opinion on how much time each player is comfortable wasting on it. Give me "story" difficulty, cheats, etc., and let me decide what to do with them. All you're hurting are your own sales.

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              duelistsage@sh.itjust.works
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              Part of what makes Souls games fun is that you can work together with others.

              I pretty much only play them co-op.

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              • F fyrilsol

                Diablo IV, for me. I love the Diablo series and just a bit ago, I sank 2 hours down to get my necromancer character up and set in Diablo II Resurrection. I have Diablo III and its expansion too, but they're online only and I almost can't be bothered to go through that. I've beaten it a long time ago.

                And I really do want to get Diablo IV, but they've made that online-only as well. Like, I know I'm always online and everything but I do like to have that fallback where if I am without internet or I can't afford internet for a time, I can play or watch things to bide the time over. I can't do that with online-only games because it's like being gated away from something you bought.

                So everytime I look at Diablo IV, I just get a little depressed at times. Blizzard should do what D2R did, have an online character and have an offline character.

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                duelistsage@sh.itjust.works
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                Star Citizen

                Still waiting for it to release.

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                • G gunvalkyrie@lemmy.world

                  Emulating bloodborne is really good now. It is 100% playable with rare minor bugs now. Highly recommend playing it. It's the best souls orne out there. Imo

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                  underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works
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                  What kind of specs do you need to run it smoothly? Does any of the online stuff work?

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                  • K katana314@lemmy.world

                    I stopped Nier Automata midway because it felt completely awful. Then I was sternly motivated by someone to give it a full go and finish it all the way, and it got EVEN WORSE.

                    Stellar Blade, though, made the gameplay very enjoyable; and its writing, while following a very similar theme, didn't feel nearly so excessively ultra-grimdark. It kept some core reveals for close to the end (I guess unless you were paying attention to what few audio logs amounted to more than just "They're coming...! Agh! We're all dead.") but I liked the dilemma it posed.

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                    midsizedsedan@lemmy.world
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                    #246

                    Shame that you didn't like Nier Automata. If I have to point a flaw, it can have "im14andThisIsDeep" vibes, but I wouldn't call it awful.

                    100% I was (still am) biased. Shaun's was the only thoughts I had until here. Felt unfair that I hated a game so much I've never even played.

                    Opened Steam to check the price and OH BOY. $109 AUD. Guess the demo will have to be my thoughts for the time being

                    ((Dark Souls 3 is older, also that price, and also not reccomended at the price. But I'm not paying 109 for a "maybe I will like it" game))

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                    • F fyrilsol

                      Diablo IV, for me. I love the Diablo series and just a bit ago, I sank 2 hours down to get my necromancer character up and set in Diablo II Resurrection. I have Diablo III and its expansion too, but they're online only and I almost can't be bothered to go through that. I've beaten it a long time ago.

                      And I really do want to get Diablo IV, but they've made that online-only as well. Like, I know I'm always online and everything but I do like to have that fallback where if I am without internet or I can't afford internet for a time, I can play or watch things to bide the time over. I can't do that with online-only games because it's like being gated away from something you bought.

                      So everytime I look at Diablo IV, I just get a little depressed at times. Blizzard should do what D2R did, have an online character and have an offline character.

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                      talkingflower@lemmy.world
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                      Victoria 3, still the undisputed king of world economic simulation. I had a blast with Vic 2, but I just can't bring myself to support Paradox Interactive in their current form with ridiculous monetisation of DLC...

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                      • C yeehaw

                        Rdr2. I'm not making a damn account just to play the game offline.

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                        FenrirIII
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                        I couldn't get into it. I'm not a fan of westerns to begin with, so even the environment couldn't pull me in

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                        • Jiří HazekkJ Jiří Hazekk

                          @cyberpunk007 @Abundance114 that is if you play on PC. other platforms might require subscriptions of some kind in order to enable multiplayer feature(s).

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                          yeehaw
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                          And that's what you get for buying a console.

                          Honestly I might pirate it instead and avoid the whole account thing all together lol.

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                          • U underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works

                            What kind of specs do you need to run it smoothly? Does any of the online stuff work?

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                            gunvalkyrie@lemmy.world
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                            So I will be honest and say I have a beefy computer. Intel i9 13900k and a 4090. But I run it at 1440p at 60fps. I see people playing it on the steam deck but I haven't tried that myself.

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                            • G gunvalkyrie@lemmy.world

                              So I will be honest and say I have a beefy computer. Intel i9 13900k and a 4090. But I run it at 1440p at 60fps. I see people playing it on the steam deck but I haven't tried that myself.

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                              underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works
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                              I'm running a 5600x with a 3080. I might be alright. I'll have to check it out.

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                              • astrolightz@lemmy.worldA astrolightz@lemmy.world

                                Mouse-heavy games like Cities: Skylines, Sims 3, and other management games. Due to a chronic injury, I'm force to mainly play with a controller, and trying to play these games with a controller would be abysmal.

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                                #252

                                Btw, some management games like OpenTTD and OpenRCT2 (Transport Tycoon and Rollercoaster Tycoon respectively) run on Android, so one can play them on a tablet (a phone is too small for the interface). OpenTTD has lots of additions, potentially making it way more complex than the original game. Dunno about OpenRCT.

                                Also, back in the time of PlayStation 1, games like Theme Park and Theme Hospital were ported to it and are optimized for the controller — they're easily emulated these days, and run even on handhelds. There are also AeroBiz, Dune 2, Warcraft, and such. PSP had some aero traffic controller games. But management games on older consoles might be rather simplistic compared to modern PC ones.

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                                • C chunes@lemmy.world

                                  Silksong. My muscle disease has progressed too much to physically play it. That really stings because Hollow Knight was one of my favorite games ever.

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                                  fmstrat@lemmy.world
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                                  May I ask what part of playing makes it difficult? Duration? Dexterity? Specific motions, etc? If it's too much, please feel free to ignore me.

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                                  • F fmstrat@lemmy.world

                                    May I ask what part of playing makes it difficult? Duration? Dexterity? Specific motions, etc? If it's too much, please feel free to ignore me.

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                                    chunes@lemmy.world
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                                    Doing anything repetitive with my hands causes quickly worsening nerve/muscle pain in the entire arm. And something demanding like a platformer will get it going in less than a minute.

                                    And the really crappy thing is, the longer I try to push through it, the longer the pain lasts. If I stop when I first notice the pain, it'll only last an hour or two, but if I keep pushing it can last for days.

                                    Fortunately, I can still play turn-based games for the most part. But even then, I prefer low-APM ones because problems can still arise. I've had to learn to love games like Into the Breach and Chess. Zachtronics games are good, too. Any game where you spend the majority of your time thinking.

                                    https://thinkygames.com/ is a godsend for discovering new games of this sort.

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                                    • N nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      why did they skip VR compatibility for the on foot sections of the game? seems insane

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                                      horse
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                                      That expansion ran like shit and was full of bugs when it released (maybe it's better now), so I wouldn't be surprised if they couldn't get it to run well enough for VR.

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                                      • C chunes@lemmy.world

                                        Doing anything repetitive with my hands causes quickly worsening nerve/muscle pain in the entire arm. And something demanding like a platformer will get it going in less than a minute.

                                        And the really crappy thing is, the longer I try to push through it, the longer the pain lasts. If I stop when I first notice the pain, it'll only last an hour or two, but if I keep pushing it can last for days.

                                        Fortunately, I can still play turn-based games for the most part. But even then, I prefer low-APM ones because problems can still arise. I've had to learn to love games like Into the Breach and Chess. Zachtronics games are good, too. Any game where you spend the majority of your time thinking.

                                        https://thinkygames.com/ is a godsend for discovering new games of this sort.

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                                        fmstrat@lemmy.world
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                                        Oh man I'm sorry to hear that. Is it limited to just your hands? While not for me, I've been interested in alternative control models (head, arm, feet, XBox adaptive controller, etc). I hear it's a challenge to learn the muscle memory, of course.

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                                        • F fmstrat@lemmy.world

                                          Oh man I'm sorry to hear that. Is it limited to just your hands? While not for me, I've been interested in alternative control models (head, arm, feet, XBox adaptive controller, etc). I hear it's a challenge to learn the muscle memory, of course.

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                                          chunes@lemmy.world
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                                          Unfortunately my neck and legs are even more screwed up than my arms. Alternative controllers could maybe buy me more time by giving my arms a rest, though.

                                          A while back, someone made a post about an AI model that can play video games. People were just trashing it in the comments but I genuinely believe it could help me by taking over during high-APM moments and I could give it strategic advice and sort of turn any game into an idle game.

                                          BTW, good luck finding a solution for your person. I'm not familiar with alternative control or I could give some advice.

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