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Meta is closing down three VR studios as part of its metaverse cuts

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  • A alcoholicorn@mander.xyz

    completely predictable outcome of an obviously stupid fucking idea

    Nah, it could have worked if Meta started by

    1. sell the hardware to businesses and schools at a loss, with a requirement users be able to take the sets home.

    2. Publish standards to allow all apps to have multiplayer and compatible full body avatars, same control scheme, movement, etc.

    3. buying up VRChat and any other apps with a large user base, refactoring them for compatibility.

    4. Develop and release free multiuser apps, from virtual office/meetings to virtual movies to home decor.

    Somehow FB didn't even try to exploit the same effects that forced everyone into Apple, MS, and FB.

    To be clear, its for the best, the end result of FB giving out millions of headsets at a loss would have been making even more money selling much more precise user data, and virtual nikes and shit.

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    ParlimentOfDoom
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    No. The entire concept is just dumb. Adding less efficient means of doing things isn't a selling point.

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    • T tigerace@lemmy.dbzer0.com

      Yeah but on the plus side, Zuckerberg will have less underage girls to groom

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      titanicx@lemmy.zip
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      Um. Not really sure what that has to do with this. But yes?

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        etterra@discuss.online
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        Hey Suckerberg, how's "the future of the Internet" working out for ya?

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        • T tehworld@lemmy.world

          But also 100% predictable. Sad, but not unexpected.

          For reference, I could absolutely take a job in the next couple weeks with a $50k signing bonus where I get to shoot people in the face with impunity, but I also know that the Nuremberg Trials were a thing. Also, I’m not a horrible human.

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          etterra@discuss.online
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          I expect that everyone there has seen this coming for ages now.

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            bitcrafter@programming.dev
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            Thank goodness there was nothing more useful we could have done as a society with all of the tens of billions of dollars that was spent on this project, or it would have been an incredible waste!

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              Echo Dot
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              Well they gave it their best shot. It was literally impossible for them to have produced a more compelling product. That would have required skill and talent

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              • B ByteOnBikes

                I'm actually kinda angry. There was a lot of money being thrown at this metaverse thing, and I wanted to milk that sweet Facebook money for as long as I can building products nobody use. Now I'll never get that chance.

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                Echo Dot
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                I mean there's always be vrchat, Which is basically what meta was trained to do but actually works.

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                • P ParlimentOfDoom

                  No. The entire concept is just dumb. Adding less efficient means of doing things isn't a selling point.

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                  Echo Dot
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                  Clearly the idea isn't done because there are other versions of the metaverse that work very well and are making money.

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                  • M murrayl@lemmy.world

                    Fuck off, sincerely. It’s hard enough out there for game devs as it is without heartless idiots online celebrating the demise of their studios.

                    Also, obviously, fuck Meta for closing them.

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                    Echo Dot
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                    My man what are you on they sold out to Meta, they 100% knew what they were getting into, and have been well compensated for it.

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                    • P ParlimentOfDoom

                      No. The entire concept is just dumb. Adding less efficient means of doing things isn't a selling point.

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                      alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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                      The real selling point would be that everyone else is using it and you need to use it to interact with them, same with FB. How many people are still forced to maintain a FB account to talk to their boomer relatives?

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                      • E Echo Dot

                        Clearly the idea isn't done because there are other versions of the metaverse that work very well and are making money.

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                        alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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                        there are other versions of the metaverse that work very well and are making money.

                        What do you mean?

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                        • A alcoholicorn@mander.xyz

                          there are other versions of the metaverse that work very well and are making money.

                          What do you mean?

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                          Echo Dot
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                          ChatVR, RecRoom, Roblox, BattleBit, Project Loom (Which Google killed for no reason, but it wasn't because of lack of success), and of course the OG, Second Life.

                          Hell you could even make the arguement for Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen if they ever finish it.

                          Some of those projects haven't just been successful they're so successful that they are starting to affect government policy.

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                            aljernon@lemmy.today
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                            Zuckerberg got lucky once, used the talents of others to capitalize on that luck. If he was smart, he would have quickly retired and set about enjoying his wealth but instead he's wasted small fortunes running Facebook. Got high on his own supply when really he was never especially talented at anything.

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                            • E Echo Dot

                              ChatVR, RecRoom, Roblox, BattleBit, Project Loom (Which Google killed for no reason, but it wasn't because of lack of success), and of course the OG, Second Life.

                              Hell you could even make the arguement for Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen if they ever finish it.

                              Some of those projects haven't just been successful they're so successful that they are starting to affect government policy.

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                              alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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                              How have they affected government policy, beyond Roblox probably causing some laws being passed about exploitation and protection of minors?

                              You have a point, I think the big thing FB failed to capitalize on is that someone who wants to use ChatVR or Roblox has to go into chatVR or roblox. FB had an opportunity to build an entire ecosystem they control, and they failed to get anyone inside of it.

                              I genuinely have no idea how they managed to spend that much money and not get a single decent app. Horizons literally looked like a tech demo someone slapped together for a gamejam or something.

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                                melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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                                I do like the idea of business people doing business in a VR boardroom instead of flying all over the place and wasting company money on hotels and fine dining. Nothing to do with meta but how a VR tool can be used for things other than gaming.

                                I bought a Quest 3s about a year ago and am an old school, single-player gamer. Meta sure tried hard to get me to socialize and meet "friends" while VR'ing but I was never interested. Also, because of the whole surveillance layer built into new tech I worry about my interior spatial domicile information being exposed. Not that there is a big secret in a house floor plan but I just don't like people sneakily looking at my shit.

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                                • M melsaskca@lemmy.ca

                                  I do like the idea of business people doing business in a VR boardroom instead of flying all over the place and wasting company money on hotels and fine dining. Nothing to do with meta but how a VR tool can be used for things other than gaming.

                                  I bought a Quest 3s about a year ago and am an old school, single-player gamer. Meta sure tried hard to get me to socialize and meet "friends" while VR'ing but I was never interested. Also, because of the whole surveillance layer built into new tech I worry about my interior spatial domicile information being exposed. Not that there is a big secret in a house floor plan but I just don't like people sneakily looking at my shit.

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                                  sexy_peach@feddit.org
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                                  I do like the idea of business people doing business in a VR boardroom instead of flying all over the place and wasting company money on hotels and fine dining. Nothing to do with meta but how a VR tool can be used for things other than gaming.

                                  Sure but I fear that they all feel so important that they won't use it.

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                                    I do like the idea of business people doing business in a VR boardroom instead of flying all over the place and wasting company money on hotels and fine dining. Nothing to do with meta but how a VR tool can be used for things other than gaming.

                                    Sure but I fear that they all feel so important that they won't use it.

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                                    melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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                                    Sigh...I agree.

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                                    • B ByteOnBikes

                                      I remember when Amazon went all-in on gaming. Everyone was skeptical, and they partnered up with so many Asian companies.

                                      Then they pulled out. Then they pulled back in. And now they're kinda in a weird place.

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                                      lad
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                                      What did they make?

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                                      • E Echo Dot

                                        ChatVR, RecRoom, Roblox, BattleBit, Project Loom (Which Google killed for no reason, but it wasn't because of lack of success), and of course the OG, Second Life.

                                        Hell you could even make the arguement for Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen if they ever finish it.

                                        Some of those projects haven't just been successful they're so successful that they are starting to affect government policy.

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                                        ParlimentOfDoom
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                                        You're just listing random games, none of which are remotely related to the metaverse...

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                                        • P ParlimentOfDoom

                                          You're just listing random games, none of which are remotely related to the metaverse...

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                                          Echo Dot
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                                          Do you even know what we're talking about? Have you ever played any of those games, they are very much in the style of what meta where trying to do.

                                          If you took Meta's description of what the "Metaverse" is and then looked at chatVR it's basically the same product.

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