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Matt Damon Says Netflix Wants Movies to Restate the ‘Plot Three or Four Times in the Dialogue’ Because Viewers are on ‘Their Phones While They’re Watching’

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    archive.is link

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      Drusas
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      Is that why the last season of Stranger Things spent half the season rehashing how all the characters had felt about anything ever throughout the previous four seasons?

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      • V village604@adultswim.fan

        Part of it is the movie, but a large part is that short form video trains your brain to need frequent dopamine fixes. A 5 second video does that, while a 90 minute movie might not give it until the climax.

        It's not much different than a smoker taking a break during a movie.

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        whyihatetheinternet@lemmy.world
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        I can't stand short videos. I won't even watch videos that aren't an hour or longer myself. I don't get these shorts, it's so unsatisfying.

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        • A aeronmelon@lemmy.world

          Make movies that are engaging enough to keep people from checking their feeds while they wait for something to happen.

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          SkaveRat
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          It literally doesn't work for most people anymore

          Short form videos fried people's attention and dopamine needs

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          • V village604@adultswim.fan

            Part of it is the movie, but a large part is that short form video trains your brain to need frequent dopamine fixes. A 5 second video does that, while a 90 minute movie might not give it until the climax.

            It's not much different than a smoker taking a break during a movie.

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            aeronmelon@lemmy.world
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            If someone starts a movie and immediately pulls their phone out or starts cleaning, that’s on them.

            And movies absolutely should not be made to cater to addiction. Nothing should, except for something explicitly designed to help people recover from addiction.

            When movies have a good idea and are given the proper attention to make them well, regular people won’t be checking the time or reading blogs when they become bored. The problem is that studios say that, good idea or not, proper attention to the craft or not, we’re making this many movies this year. We’re lucky if a few of those movies are something future generations would consider good.

            Matt Damon is suggesting that movies be made even worse than they already are.

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              gork@sopuli.xyz
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              As long as they don't mess with the tradition of saying the name of the show/movie in the show/movie in the most corny manner possible.

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              • A aeronmelon@lemmy.world

                Make movies that are engaging enough to keep people from checking their feeds while they wait for something to happen.

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                lobut@lemmy.ca
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                I dunno man, I can't get my friends to watch some stellar movies because their attention span has been shot over time.

                Believe it or not, they'll watch crappier movies because they don't need to pay attention.

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                • A aeronmelon@lemmy.world

                  Make movies that are engaging enough to keep people from checking their feeds while they wait for something to happen.

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                  iww4@lemmy.zip
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                  Oh fucking please.. that has nothing to do with it.

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                  • R reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net

                    I find shows and movies that show something happen clearly and then restate it in the dialogue immediately quite annoying. Very common in anime.

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                    Wait, you're telling me that restating dialog makes you annoyed, especially because it happens so frequently in anime?

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                      What, do you expect the audience to pay attention and infer how characters are feeling based on things like subtle body cues? What like acting?

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                        ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        I think re-explaining things that happened in previous seasons is a different issue. They're worried that you don't remember what happened because it has been so long.

                        And that's fair. I know I watched Season 2 (and it definitely had my full attention, because I'm incapable of doing two things at once), but the only thing I can actually remember about it is the episode where El went to Chicago and met some shadowrunners. And something about tunnels. Everything else is a blur.

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                        • L lobut@lemmy.ca

                          I dunno man, I can't get my friends to watch some stellar movies because their attention span has been shot over time.

                          Believe it or not, they'll watch crappier movies because they don't need to pay attention.

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                          muffedtrims@lemmy.world
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                          Can't right now, ow my balls is on.

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                          • ScrubblesS Scrubbles

                            Wait, you're telling me that restating dialog makes you annoyed, especially because it happens so frequently in anime?

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                            Brave Little Hitachi Wand
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                            In anime, you should expect repetitive exposition. Can it be that Netflix has gained this power, too?

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                              itsathursday@lemmy.world
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                              Fucking train wreck of a season. It was garbage full of useless dialogue between every character. I couldn’t watch past the first few episodes.

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                                4am@lemmy.zip
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                                Why? What the fuck do they care as long as people watch it?

                                Make good stuff, and people will come.

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                                  Ech
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                                  Yup, and on the same boards with people whining about that are complaints from people that still missed shit.

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                                  • ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.comR ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                    I think re-explaining things that happened in previous seasons is a different issue. They're worried that you don't remember what happened because it has been so long.

                                    And that's fair. I know I watched Season 2 (and it definitely had my full attention, because I'm incapable of doing two things at once), but the only thing I can actually remember about it is the episode where El went to Chicago and met some shadowrunners. And something about tunnels. Everything else is a blur.

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                                    DeliciousDoorknob
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                                    The last season being a big mess aside, it was 100% guilty of re-explaining the plot, not just the recaps. Together with those unnecessary "LET ME EXPLAIN" scenes, like Robin using vinyls to explain a very basic concept. They really treated us like idiots.

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                                      calliope@retrolemmy.com
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                                      I think I read a different article about this months ago!

                                      For some reason I’m kind of surprised to hear about it again because not a lot of people seem to talk about it.

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                                      • I iww4@lemmy.zip

                                        Oh fucking please.. that has nothing to do with it.

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                                        MotoAsh
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                                        lol yea, toootally nothing to do with it. That's why nobody ever talks about great movies, and movies toooootally aren't getting longer nad longer... yep, totally not a quality to attention thing.

                                        Not like there are legendary movies that are several hours long that people still watch... Yep, quality has nothing to do with how long people stay engaged with movies!

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                                        • ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.comR ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                          I think re-explaining things that happened in previous seasons is a different issue. They're worried that you don't remember what happened because it has been so long.

                                          And that's fair. I know I watched Season 2 (and it definitely had my full attention, because I'm incapable of doing two things at once), but the only thing I can actually remember about it is the episode where El went to Chicago and met some shadowrunners. And something about tunnels. Everything else is a blur.

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                                          Drusas
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                                          I agree with what you're saying (aside from comparing that really awful episode to Shadowrun), but that's not what went on in Stranger Things. It was just....

                                          From the very first episode, I asked if they had changed writers because the dialogue was so different, so bad, and so predictable--all of which only grew worse with each passing episode. And when each character had their turn to explain who they are and how they feel, it fit the same exact pattern every time. It was just really bad writing.

                                          All that said, I don't think the last season was terrible. I expected it to be a lot worse than it was. The actual plot and ending of the story, I thought were perfectly mediocre and fine. It was ruined by the dialogue.

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