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Matt Damon Says Netflix Wants Movies to Restate the ‘Plot Three or Four Times in the Dialogue’ Because Viewers are on ‘Their Phones While They’re Watching’

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  • ScrubblesS Scrubbles

    Wait, you're telling me that restating dialog makes you annoyed, especially because it happens so frequently in anime?

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    Warehouse
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    To the point that it's a meme.

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      anon_8675309@lemmy.world
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      Make content that makes people put their phones down.

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      • ScrubblesS Scrubbles

        Wait, you're telling me that restating dialog makes you annoyed, especially because it happens so frequently in anime?

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        BurgerBaron
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        Metal Gear????

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        • W Warehouse

          To the point that it's a meme.

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          jesus_666@lemmy.world
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          To be fair, that can be necessary to make the action understandable, especially when you're adapting a game that you don't expect the viewers to be experts in. (Which is always because these shows are usually supposed to be advertisements.

          Imagine an MtG-themed show where battles looked like this:

          Player A: "Okay, your turn."

          Player B: "Untap, draw... In my precombat main I play Isochron Scepter with Pongify."

          Player A: "Fold."

          Spectator: "Yeah, that was obviously unwinnable."

          ...without even bothering to explain the cards, much less why player A's game couldn't stand up to a questionable use of an Isochron Scepter.

          (Of course a particularly egregious case was Yu-Gi-Oh, which needed these explanations because the card game as shown on the show made no sense.)

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          • M MotoAsh

            lol yea, toootally nothing to do with it. That's why nobody ever talks about great movies, and movies toooootally aren't getting longer nad longer... yep, totally not a quality to attention thing.

            Not like there are legendary movies that are several hours long that people still watch... Yep, quality has nothing to do with how long people stay engaged with movies!

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            FishFace
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            Do the people who have their phones out in films nowadays watch those old movies without looking at their phones, hmm?

            Your snark makes you sound like an arsehole.

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            • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

              Why? What the fuck do they care as long as people watch it?

              Make good stuff, and people will come.

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              FishFace
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              People will leave if they don't like what they see. People won't like what they don't understand. People won't understand what isn't either simple or redundantly written because they don't pay attention.

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                theimpudentone@discuss.tchncs.de
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                Seems helpful. I’m probably watching Netflix, driving a ride share right this very moment AND cooking my family a nutritious dinner all at this very moment

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                • M MotoAsh

                  lol yea, toootally nothing to do with it. That's why nobody ever talks about great movies, and movies toooootally aren't getting longer nad longer... yep, totally not a quality to attention thing.

                  Not like there are legendary movies that are several hours long that people still watch... Yep, quality has nothing to do with how long people stay engaged with movies!

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                  iww4@lemmy.zip
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                  #42

                  Bud.. people are on thier phones constantly.. there nothing that will stop that..

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                  • G gork@sopuli.xyz

                    As long as they don't mess with the tradition of saying the name of the show/movie in the show/movie in the most corny manner possible.

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                    Billygoat
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                    I love it when they do that /s

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                      dancingbear@midwest.social
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                      #44

                      Oh dear here I am watching Netflix movies on sites other than Netflix…. On my phone…

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                        jankatarch@lemmy.world
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                        #45

                        It's not just me, right? Modern movies and shows have less things happen in same duration of time.

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                        • Brave Little Hitachi WandY Brave Little Hitachi Wand

                          In anime, you should expect repetitive exposition. Can it be that Netflix has gained this power, too?

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                          hexarei@beehaw.org
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                          Netflix has gained the power of repetitive exposition? Such a feat has only been attained by anime before! One should expect it there, but now it's really bothering OP!

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                          • A anon_8675309@lemmy.world

                            Make content that makes people put their phones down.

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                            triasha@lemmy.world
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                            This is part of the genius of kpop demon hunters. It moves fast, sometimes frenetically.

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                            • J jankatarch@lemmy.world

                              It's not just me, right? Modern movies and shows have less things happen in same duration of time.

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                              theoriginalgregtoo@lemmy.world
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                              I would actually argue the opposite. Modern movie plots are an ADD fever dream. There are so many things going on that keeping track is an absolute chore.

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                                ilandar@lemmy.today
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                                All that said, I don’t think the last season was terrible. I expected it to be a lot worse than it was. The actual plot and ending of the story, I thought were perfectly mediocre and fine. It was ruined by the dialogue.

                                I agree with you, it was better than I expected (although I had extremely low expectations to be fair). The most miserable parts of the final season were the long "emotional" character moments with the most juvenile/amateur/unrealistic writing. I don't skip as a rule, but I really felt like fast forwarding through some of that stuff, it was so cringe.

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                                  DylanMc6 [any, any]
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                                  #50

                                  If the US were a socialist country, there would be less atomization. What do you think?

                                  EDIT: I mean the atomization of society, NOT actual atomization.

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                                  • W whyihatetheinternet@lemmy.world

                                    I can't stand short videos. I won't even watch videos that aren't an hour or longer myself. I don't get these shorts, it's so unsatisfying.

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                                    edible_funk
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                                    #51

                                    We get our short attention span jones from reading headlines and comments.

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                                    • D DeliciousDoorknob

                                      The last season being a big mess aside, it was 100% guilty of re-explaining the plot, not just the recaps. Together with those unnecessary "LET ME EXPLAIN" scenes, like Robin using vinyls to explain a very basic concept. They really treated us like idiots.

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                                      edible_funk
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                                      The entirety of the show is like that. It's not like a deep thinky clever show, it's a series of 80's horror movie references tossed in a blender.

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                                      • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

                                        Why? What the fuck do they care as long as people watch it?

                                        Make good stuff, and people will come.

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                                        evol@lemmy.today
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                                        people like the idea of liking good stuff, they do not like good stuff. This is the #1 rule of making money

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                                        • R reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net

                                          I find shows and movies that show something happen clearly and then restate it in the dialogue immediately quite annoying. Very common in anime.

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                                          evol@lemmy.today
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                                          I wonder if its due to how closely Anime attempts to animate Manga? I feel like you can kind of "explain" what happens in text alot more smoothly than on a TV show due to how much faster you ingest knowledge.

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