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Matt Damon Says Netflix Wants Movies to Restate the ‘Plot Three or Four Times in the Dialogue’ Because Viewers are on ‘Their Phones While They’re Watching’

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  • F FishFace

    Do the people who have their phones out in films nowadays watch those old movies without looking at their phones, hmm?

    Your snark makes you sound like an arsehole.

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    MotoAsh
    wrote last edited by motoash@piefed.social
    #80

    My snark is because it was an assinine statement that was said rudely. I don't know why you're mad at me and not the rude person with the wrong opinion.

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    • FudgyMcTubbsF FudgyMcTubbs

      Dude.... That was annual, too. These modern day 8-episode shows will have YEARS between seasons. Like, motherfucker, half your scenes are green screen in a big sound studio -- what the fuck is taking you so long?!

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      qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works
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      They have to wait for Ai tokens to replenish.

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      • F freddieslantern@leminal.space

        So people having discourse equals advertising?

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        MotoAsh
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        #82

        Nah, they're making a joke from the misspelling.

        add: To perform addition. Or a mob joining an ongoing fight in a game.

        ad: An advertisement.

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          switorik@lemmy.zip
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          #83

          This is what kills any articles on the web. The first three paragraphs repeat the question you're looking to get answered and the last paragraph vaguely answers it.

          I feel like an old person now but I've started watching movies from the 90s/2000s and I can't believe how much worse movies have become over the years.

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          • P potustheplant@feddit.nl

            Not really, no. There have been plenty of tv shows for example that have been cancelled due to low audience numbers, despite being excellent. For example, In The Flesh, Mindhunter and Pushing Daisies.

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            silasmariner@programming.dev
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            #84

            Pushing daisies was absolutely great, was gutted we never got to see how that played out

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            • P potatar@lemmy.world

              No they are not. I cannot watch them unless i speed them up past what Netflix allows me. They are so slow and information sparse that i cannot watch them.

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              kofe@lemmy.world
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              #85

              Depending on what shows you watched, plenty from the 90s/00s assumed viewers wouldnt make it for the airing once a week. So they did fluff a bunch and rely on "this week's monster" rather than dense series plots. I remember despising dragon ball z (my brothers favorite) because multiple episodes would go by with fuckin NOTHING happening.

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              • F freddieslantern@leminal.space

                You tell me:

                -are you getting ads/shorts/brainrot shoved in face every single second?

                -is the public on lemmy tolerant of sexoffenders? Nazis?

                -ads? (Yes, I initially misspelled it as “adds” this guy right here)

                -do you have superfluous bs following you around?

                I think not.

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                wuzzlewoggle@feddit.org
                wrote last edited by
                #86

                You forgot:

                • Is an algorithm shoving political divisive rage bait down your throat?

                But thanks for listing why I like it here

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                • edible_funkE edible_funk

                  Depressingly? It was fully happily ever after. And it just did the same thing every other season did, largely disregard previous seasons to introduce a new big bad for the season leading up to a big monster fight. It was incredibly par for the course, 70 percent style with 30 percent substance. It's not high cinema but it's entertaining tv.

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                  DeliciousDoorknob
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                  #87

                  It was fully happily ever after.

                  Hard disagree. Fully happily-ever-after wouldn't have ended with
                  ::: spoiler S5 finale spoilers
                  the main 16-year-old character either dying or somewhere all on her own with no family/friends/support circle, useful life skills, money or even documents to travel anywhere outside the US. While her boyfriend is stuck with depression and potentially living in delusion that she is still alive. The whole idea that El represents childhood magic and that she has to die/disappear, so other characters could move on is genuinely out of touch and potentially harmful, considering she's been "used, abused and manipulated" since she was born. Sends a real fucked up message there. This could have worked, if the show had finished in one season. But it does not work after 5 seasons of growth (though in S5 she was completely sidelined). The one character that deserved happily ever after, and they didn't give it to her. Not to mention how Vickie has been completely forgotten in the epilogue, or rather discarded with an offhanded comment about being an "overbearing significant other", when Robin has been an asshole to her the entire season.
                  :::

                  I actually would have loved a true happily-ever-after. This tired trend of every show—even something that's supposed to be lighthearted—getting a tragic or "bittersweer" ending, because that's considered "deep", should just die already.

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                  • S skisnow@lemmy.ca

                    I like when Matt Damon restates his name three or four times in the dialogue

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                    optissima@lemmy.world
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                    Blame his agent for getting him a pokemon gig as a pokemon

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                      slappyfuck@lemmy.ca
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                      #89

                      I don’t see anything wrong with this. Have them wear crazy outfits that no one will see either.

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                      • FudgyMcTubbsF FudgyMcTubbs

                        Wow... I dont want to see any of those potential movies you just pitched.

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                        Riskable
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                        #90

                        That's fine! How would you keep things interesting?

                        Or are you just boring?

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                          nangijala@feddit.dk
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                          Good thing we canceled our Netflix subscription last year when Trump threatened to invade our country the first time.

                          Even greater that now that he is threatening to do it again, and seemingly is more serious about it, we are one year into being back on physical media and we fucking love it. Dvds and blurays are so much better than shitflix.

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                          • RiskableR Riskable

                            That's fine! How would you keep things interesting?

                            Or are you just boring?

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                            FudgyMcTubbs
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                            I'm pretty boring. I like depth of writing, artful cinematography, expert acting all the way down to two-line roles, least amount of cgi/green screen as possible (fake fire doesn't look real, and cgi car chases look cheesy af), not the same actors ive seen in stuff for the past 20+ years (but i do like famous actors who absolutely slay a completely new type of role for them -- like Jim Carrey did in Truman Show), fantastic dialogue that doesn't spoon feed exposition and subtext, skilled editing that makes the aforementioned cinematography serve some subtext, and directing that can masterfully weave it all together. Ya know -- a quality film.

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                            • M MotoAsh

                              Nah, they're making a joke from the misspelling.

                              add: To perform addition. Or a mob joining an ongoing fight in a game.

                              ad: An advertisement.

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                              freddieslantern@leminal.space
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                              Well looks like I’ll be having an omelette tomorrow morning on account of the egg on my face. 🤣

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                              • A atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works

                                Does that include Lemmy?

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                                brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                                #94

                                Lemmy/Piefed is an echo chamber, and has some structural issues like Reddit. But there's no algo, no advertising, nor constant phone notifications.

                                And, uh, no billionaires warping "open" discourse.

                                To me, it's a time black hole, worse than old forums. But it's not nearly as bad as (say) Discord or anything Facebook owned.

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                                • M MotoAsh

                                  lol yea, toootally nothing to do with it. That's why nobody ever talks about great movies, and movies toooootally aren't getting longer nad longer... yep, totally not a quality to attention thing.

                                  Not like there are legendary movies that are several hours long that people still watch... Yep, quality has nothing to do with how long people stay engaged with movies!

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                                  madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  The Intro to the film, "One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest" comes to mind.

                                  Great film, slow, steady, meaningful.

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                                  • P potustheplant@feddit.nl

                                    Not really, no. There have been plenty of tv shows for example that have been cancelled due to low audience numbers, despite being excellent. For example, In The Flesh, Mindhunter and Pushing Daisies.

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                                    madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                    I still mourn Kaos

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                                      spacehooks@reddthat.com
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                                      I decided to work from home and put fury road since I haven't seen it. 10 minutes in i logged off work early because it was good.

                                      Ppl will not focus on what gives them the most enjoyment. If its the phone or Netflix.

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                                        yogurt@lemmy.world
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                                        The amount of reciprocal effort art is socially allowed to demand from the audience changes. The art form gets refined and people respect that and are willing to invest more attention, then at some point it's opera and nobody goes because it requires too much attention and respect. Netflix might suck but on the other hand Christopher Nolan is making movies with inaudible dialogue and Game of Thrones has invisible fight scenes because they got out of hand with it and think they can demand you only watch their thing alone in a soundproof HDR screening room.

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                                        • D DeliciousDoorknob

                                          It was fully happily ever after.

                                          Hard disagree. Fully happily-ever-after wouldn't have ended with
                                          ::: spoiler S5 finale spoilers
                                          the main 16-year-old character either dying or somewhere all on her own with no family/friends/support circle, useful life skills, money or even documents to travel anywhere outside the US. While her boyfriend is stuck with depression and potentially living in delusion that she is still alive. The whole idea that El represents childhood magic and that she has to die/disappear, so other characters could move on is genuinely out of touch and potentially harmful, considering she's been "used, abused and manipulated" since she was born. Sends a real fucked up message there. This could have worked, if the show had finished in one season. But it does not work after 5 seasons of growth (though in S5 she was completely sidelined). The one character that deserved happily ever after, and they didn't give it to her. Not to mention how Vickie has been completely forgotten in the epilogue, or rather discarded with an offhanded comment about being an "overbearing significant other", when Robin has been an asshole to her the entire season.
                                          :::

                                          I actually would have loved a true happily-ever-after. This tired trend of every show—even something that's supposed to be lighthearted—getting a tragic or "bittersweer" ending, because that's considered "deep", should just die already.

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                                          edible_funk
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                                          I disagree with basically that whole interpretation. And the ending was explicitly hopeful. I think you just took it personal that what you thought was gonna happen didn't.

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