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  • Iced RaktajinoI Iced Raktajino

    There have been a couple of posts somewhat recently asking what can be done to attract new users to the Fediverse. My answer was basically "make it something new people would want to see and stick around for". The crux of that was basically less news, less politics, less rage and more, well, anything else.

    So, I would like to propose a challenge to all: Let's try that. At least for a week.

    Sound good? Here's how you can participate:

    1. If you're one who posts a lot of news/politics...stop or at least slow down. Post literally anything else. Or try to post less rage-inducing news and try to dig up the good news that's happening. Sorry !upliftingnews@lemmy.world but it's the regular news communities that are flooding the zone with every single bad thing that happens anywhere in the world, so we may be stealing some of your content with this one.

    2. Think before posting something. Are you only posting it because you're mad about it and you think other people should be mad about it too? If so, maybe post something else. Is there already similar coverage of that? Chances are, we don't need more of it.

    3. If you're a lurker, post something. Add your voice.

    4. Refrain from upvoting / booting all the negativity. Yes, it may feel good to upvote for visibility because "people need to know this" but the end result is the feed turning into a list of things to rage about. If you see good/non-rage news, upvote that for visibility. I've seen many posts like that languish with a few tens of upvotes at most while the rage-inducing news gets hundreds of upvotes.

    5. Post what makes you happy rather than what you're angry about.

    6. Avoid dogpiling on people if they express a different opinion. I'm not saying feed the trolls or pat them on the head, just merely "disengage" or avoid the impulse to virtue dump on them and such.

    7. If you have a hobby, share it! There's plenty of hobby communities that would greatly benefit from additional contributors. If you're boring like me, well, there's !Dullsters@dullsters.net or !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world (the latter welcomes all as the name is just a reference to the original)

    8. Anything else you can think of to make the homepage/experience feel more welcoming and less like an angry mob (suggestions in the comments are more than welcome).

    I know not everyone will participate, and that's okay. Simply adding more positivity and posting/boosting less rage can have a positive effect on what shows up on /all which is what potential new users see by default.

    So, let's try this for a week and see what happens. Who knows? Maybe the established userbase will find it refreshing as well.

    Who's with me?

    CorganaC This user is from outside of this forum
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    Corgana
    wrote last edited by
    #8

    More mods and admins on Fedi need to step up and take bolder action, imo. Whether intentional or not, a mods inaction will often set the tone for a given community more than their actions.

    Imagine the community you mod meets in person and someone is being obnoxious and disruptive. A new attendee is not going to speak up, they're going to look to you for guidance. If you allow unwelcoming behavior to persist, then attendees learn that being loud is how to get noticed, and if they don't want to be loud (as many of us don't) they'll just stop going.

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    • Iced RaktajinoI Iced Raktajino

      There have been a couple of posts somewhat recently asking what can be done to attract new users to the Fediverse. My answer was basically "make it something new people would want to see and stick around for". The crux of that was basically less news, less politics, less rage and more, well, anything else.

      So, I would like to propose a challenge to all: Let's try that. At least for a week.

      Sound good? Here's how you can participate:

      1. If you're one who posts a lot of news/politics...stop or at least slow down. Post literally anything else. Or try to post less rage-inducing news and try to dig up the good news that's happening. Sorry !upliftingnews@lemmy.world but it's the regular news communities that are flooding the zone with every single bad thing that happens anywhere in the world, so we may be stealing some of your content with this one.

      2. Think before posting something. Are you only posting it because you're mad about it and you think other people should be mad about it too? If so, maybe post something else. Is there already similar coverage of that? Chances are, we don't need more of it.

      3. If you're a lurker, post something. Add your voice.

      4. Refrain from upvoting / booting all the negativity. Yes, it may feel good to upvote for visibility because "people need to know this" but the end result is the feed turning into a list of things to rage about. If you see good/non-rage news, upvote that for visibility. I've seen many posts like that languish with a few tens of upvotes at most while the rage-inducing news gets hundreds of upvotes.

      5. Post what makes you happy rather than what you're angry about.

      6. Avoid dogpiling on people if they express a different opinion. I'm not saying feed the trolls or pat them on the head, just merely "disengage" or avoid the impulse to virtue dump on them and such.

      7. If you have a hobby, share it! There's plenty of hobby communities that would greatly benefit from additional contributors. If you're boring like me, well, there's !Dullsters@dullsters.net or !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world (the latter welcomes all as the name is just a reference to the original)

      8. Anything else you can think of to make the homepage/experience feel more welcoming and less like an angry mob (suggestions in the comments are more than welcome).

      I know not everyone will participate, and that's okay. Simply adding more positivity and posting/boosting less rage can have a positive effect on what shows up on /all which is what potential new users see by default.

      So, let's try this for a week and see what happens. Who knows? Maybe the established userbase will find it refreshing as well.

      Who's with me?

      FartsWithAnAccentF This user is from outside of this forum
      FartsWithAnAccentF This user is from outside of this forum
      FartsWithAnAccent
      wrote last edited by
      #9

      If you have a hobby, share it!

      Done! Come check out !micromobility@lemmy.world if you like bikes, e-bikes, scooters, skateboards, motorcycles, e-unis, office chairs you decided to roll down the road on, or other personal transportation options.

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      • CorganaC Corgana

        More mods and admins on Fedi need to step up and take bolder action, imo. Whether intentional or not, a mods inaction will often set the tone for a given community more than their actions.

        Imagine the community you mod meets in person and someone is being obnoxious and disruptive. A new attendee is not going to speak up, they're going to look to you for guidance. If you allow unwelcoming behavior to persist, then attendees learn that being loud is how to get noticed, and if they don't want to be loud (as many of us don't) they'll just stop going.

        FartsWithAnAccentF This user is from outside of this forum
        FartsWithAnAccentF This user is from outside of this forum
        FartsWithAnAccent
        wrote last edited by
        #10

        Modding on Lemmy is a pain in the ass, especially for larger communities. The mod tools need to be vastly improved (especially resolving multiple reports on the same post and being able to easily ban people who submit spam/troll reports.

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        • Iced RaktajinoI This user is from outside of this forum
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          Iced Raktajino
          wrote last edited by
          #11

          I do! Though I'm fully a lurker there and only passively contribute with my upvotes since I haven't biked or even e-biked in ages.

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          • Iced RaktajinoI Iced Raktajino

            There have been a couple of posts somewhat recently asking what can be done to attract new users to the Fediverse. My answer was basically "make it something new people would want to see and stick around for". The crux of that was basically less news, less politics, less rage and more, well, anything else.

            So, I would like to propose a challenge to all: Let's try that. At least for a week.

            Sound good? Here's how you can participate:

            1. If you're one who posts a lot of news/politics...stop or at least slow down. Post literally anything else. Or try to post less rage-inducing news and try to dig up the good news that's happening. Sorry !upliftingnews@lemmy.world but it's the regular news communities that are flooding the zone with every single bad thing that happens anywhere in the world, so we may be stealing some of your content with this one.

            2. Think before posting something. Are you only posting it because you're mad about it and you think other people should be mad about it too? If so, maybe post something else. Is there already similar coverage of that? Chances are, we don't need more of it.

            3. If you're a lurker, post something. Add your voice.

            4. Refrain from upvoting / booting all the negativity. Yes, it may feel good to upvote for visibility because "people need to know this" but the end result is the feed turning into a list of things to rage about. If you see good/non-rage news, upvote that for visibility. I've seen many posts like that languish with a few tens of upvotes at most while the rage-inducing news gets hundreds of upvotes.

            5. Post what makes you happy rather than what you're angry about.

            6. Avoid dogpiling on people if they express a different opinion. I'm not saying feed the trolls or pat them on the head, just merely "disengage" or avoid the impulse to virtue dump on them and such.

            7. If you have a hobby, share it! There's plenty of hobby communities that would greatly benefit from additional contributors. If you're boring like me, well, there's !Dullsters@dullsters.net or !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world (the latter welcomes all as the name is just a reference to the original)

            8. Anything else you can think of to make the homepage/experience feel more welcoming and less like an angry mob (suggestions in the comments are more than welcome).

            I know not everyone will participate, and that's okay. Simply adding more positivity and posting/boosting less rage can have a positive effect on what shows up on /all which is what potential new users see by default.

            So, let's try this for a week and see what happens. Who knows? Maybe the established userbase will find it refreshing as well.

            Who's with me?

            CubitOomC This user is from outside of this forum
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            CubitOom
            wrote last edited by
            #12

            Beautiful World [Rage Against The Machine]

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            • Iced RaktajinoI Iced Raktajino

              There have been a couple of posts somewhat recently asking what can be done to attract new users to the Fediverse. My answer was basically "make it something new people would want to see and stick around for". The crux of that was basically less news, less politics, less rage and more, well, anything else.

              So, I would like to propose a challenge to all: Let's try that. At least for a week.

              Sound good? Here's how you can participate:

              1. If you're one who posts a lot of news/politics...stop or at least slow down. Post literally anything else. Or try to post less rage-inducing news and try to dig up the good news that's happening. Sorry !upliftingnews@lemmy.world but it's the regular news communities that are flooding the zone with every single bad thing that happens anywhere in the world, so we may be stealing some of your content with this one.

              2. Think before posting something. Are you only posting it because you're mad about it and you think other people should be mad about it too? If so, maybe post something else. Is there already similar coverage of that? Chances are, we don't need more of it.

              3. If you're a lurker, post something. Add your voice.

              4. Refrain from upvoting / booting all the negativity. Yes, it may feel good to upvote for visibility because "people need to know this" but the end result is the feed turning into a list of things to rage about. If you see good/non-rage news, upvote that for visibility. I've seen many posts like that languish with a few tens of upvotes at most while the rage-inducing news gets hundreds of upvotes.

              5. Post what makes you happy rather than what you're angry about.

              6. Avoid dogpiling on people if they express a different opinion. I'm not saying feed the trolls or pat them on the head, just merely "disengage" or avoid the impulse to virtue dump on them and such.

              7. If you have a hobby, share it! There's plenty of hobby communities that would greatly benefit from additional contributors. If you're boring like me, well, there's !Dullsters@dullsters.net or !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world (the latter welcomes all as the name is just a reference to the original)

              8. Anything else you can think of to make the homepage/experience feel more welcoming and less like an angry mob (suggestions in the comments are more than welcome).

              I know not everyone will participate, and that's okay. Simply adding more positivity and posting/boosting less rage can have a positive effect on what shows up on /all which is what potential new users see by default.

              So, let's try this for a week and see what happens. Who knows? Maybe the established userbase will find it refreshing as well.

              Who's with me?

              C This user is from outside of this forum
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              combatwombatesq@lemmy.world
              wrote last edited by
              #13

              I definitely want to see more non-news content, but I don’t think the threadiverse needs less of anything. If you wanna post news and politics, have at it! The rest of us just need to get on their level with all our other hobbies and interests.

              Also, it’s discouraging to post in a niche community and always harvest downvotes from people that don’t like that you’re posting at all. I get it, there aren’t other NWSL/MLS fans out here, but could you please stop doing drive-bys and downvoting all my articles?

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              • C combatwombatesq@lemmy.world

                I definitely want to see more non-news content, but I don’t think the threadiverse needs less of anything. If you wanna post news and politics, have at it! The rest of us just need to get on their level with all our other hobbies and interests.

                Also, it’s discouraging to post in a niche community and always harvest downvotes from people that don’t like that you’re posting at all. I get it, there aren’t other NWSL/MLS fans out here, but could you please stop doing drive-bys and downvoting all my articles?

                Iced RaktajinoI This user is from outside of this forum
                Iced RaktajinoI This user is from outside of this forum
                Iced Raktajino
                wrote last edited by
                #14

                I only say there needs to be less because that's all that seems to get pushed to the top. Ever since I saw the few posts asking how to get new users here, I've been trying to put myself in their shoes and look at things raw and unfiltered like a brand new user would see. Sadly, now that I've looked, I can't un-see.

                The rest of us just need to get on their level with all our other hobbies and interests.

                100% agree 🙂 But those don't seem to get the rage clicks like all the bad news stuff and get buried even on scaled sort.

                there aren’t other NWSL/MLS fans out here, but could you please stop doing drive-bys and downvoting all my articles?

                I don't know what either of those are, but I just went and threw some upvotes to some of your stuff because it was non-political / non-news. And one of them was highly downvoted for reasons I cannot possibly fathom.

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                • Iced RaktajinoI Iced Raktajino

                  There have been a couple of posts somewhat recently asking what can be done to attract new users to the Fediverse. My answer was basically "make it something new people would want to see and stick around for". The crux of that was basically less news, less politics, less rage and more, well, anything else.

                  So, I would like to propose a challenge to all: Let's try that. At least for a week.

                  Sound good? Here's how you can participate:

                  1. If you're one who posts a lot of news/politics...stop or at least slow down. Post literally anything else. Or try to post less rage-inducing news and try to dig up the good news that's happening. Sorry !upliftingnews@lemmy.world but it's the regular news communities that are flooding the zone with every single bad thing that happens anywhere in the world, so we may be stealing some of your content with this one.

                  2. Think before posting something. Are you only posting it because you're mad about it and you think other people should be mad about it too? If so, maybe post something else. Is there already similar coverage of that? Chances are, we don't need more of it.

                  3. If you're a lurker, post something. Add your voice.

                  4. Refrain from upvoting / booting all the negativity. Yes, it may feel good to upvote for visibility because "people need to know this" but the end result is the feed turning into a list of things to rage about. If you see good/non-rage news, upvote that for visibility. I've seen many posts like that languish with a few tens of upvotes at most while the rage-inducing news gets hundreds of upvotes.

                  5. Post what makes you happy rather than what you're angry about.

                  6. Avoid dogpiling on people if they express a different opinion. I'm not saying feed the trolls or pat them on the head, just merely "disengage" or avoid the impulse to virtue dump on them and such.

                  7. If you have a hobby, share it! There's plenty of hobby communities that would greatly benefit from additional contributors. If you're boring like me, well, there's !Dullsters@dullsters.net or !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world (the latter welcomes all as the name is just a reference to the original)

                  8. Anything else you can think of to make the homepage/experience feel more welcoming and less like an angry mob (suggestions in the comments are more than welcome).

                  I know not everyone will participate, and that's okay. Simply adding more positivity and posting/boosting less rage can have a positive effect on what shows up on /all which is what potential new users see by default.

                  So, let's try this for a week and see what happens. Who knows? Maybe the established userbase will find it refreshing as well.

                  Who's with me?

                  mintiefreshM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mintiefreshM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mintiefresh
                  wrote last edited by
                  #15

                  Honestly, I'm just trying to scroll less and do other stuff. I've started to do a lot more reading instead and it's helped me a lot.

                  The world seems so broken right now.

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                  • mintiefreshM mintiefresh

                    Honestly, I'm just trying to scroll less and do other stuff. I've started to do a lot more reading instead and it's helped me a lot.

                    The world seems so broken right now.

                    Iced RaktajinoI This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Iced Raktajino
                    wrote last edited by
                    #16

                    +1 for reading more. I took a break a few weeks ago, but I've been deep into the Star Trek books since last summer.

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                    • Iced RaktajinoI Iced Raktajino

                      I do! Though I'm fully a lurker there and only passively contribute with my upvotes since I haven't biked or even e-biked in ages.

                      FartsWithAnAccentF This user is from outside of this forum
                      FartsWithAnAccentF This user is from outside of this forum
                      FartsWithAnAccent
                      wrote last edited by fartswithanaccent@fedia.io
                      #17

                      Thanks for participating. Never too late to start riding again!

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                      • Iced RaktajinoI Iced Raktajino

                        There have been a couple of posts somewhat recently asking what can be done to attract new users to the Fediverse. My answer was basically "make it something new people would want to see and stick around for". The crux of that was basically less news, less politics, less rage and more, well, anything else.

                        So, I would like to propose a challenge to all: Let's try that. At least for a week.

                        Sound good? Here's how you can participate:

                        1. If you're one who posts a lot of news/politics...stop or at least slow down. Post literally anything else. Or try to post less rage-inducing news and try to dig up the good news that's happening. Sorry !upliftingnews@lemmy.world but it's the regular news communities that are flooding the zone with every single bad thing that happens anywhere in the world, so we may be stealing some of your content with this one.

                        2. Think before posting something. Are you only posting it because you're mad about it and you think other people should be mad about it too? If so, maybe post something else. Is there already similar coverage of that? Chances are, we don't need more of it.

                        3. If you're a lurker, post something. Add your voice.

                        4. Refrain from upvoting / booting all the negativity. Yes, it may feel good to upvote for visibility because "people need to know this" but the end result is the feed turning into a list of things to rage about. If you see good/non-rage news, upvote that for visibility. I've seen many posts like that languish with a few tens of upvotes at most while the rage-inducing news gets hundreds of upvotes.

                        5. Post what makes you happy rather than what you're angry about.

                        6. Avoid dogpiling on people if they express a different opinion. I'm not saying feed the trolls or pat them on the head, just merely "disengage" or avoid the impulse to virtue dump on them and such.

                        7. If you have a hobby, share it! There's plenty of hobby communities that would greatly benefit from additional contributors. If you're boring like me, well, there's !Dullsters@dullsters.net or !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world (the latter welcomes all as the name is just a reference to the original)

                        8. Anything else you can think of to make the homepage/experience feel more welcoming and less like an angry mob (suggestions in the comments are more than welcome).

                        I know not everyone will participate, and that's okay. Simply adding more positivity and posting/boosting less rage can have a positive effect on what shows up on /all which is what potential new users see by default.

                        So, let's try this for a week and see what happens. Who knows? Maybe the established userbase will find it refreshing as well.

                        Who's with me?

                        anon6789A This user is from outside of this forum
                        anon6789A This user is from outside of this forum
                        anon6789
                        wrote last edited by
                        #18

                        It's really tough anymore to post positive content here. It feels like spitting on a fire to put it out.

                        I'm from the US, but I've always tried to include everyone in my posts, at the price of looking ignorant every now and then when I get things wrong, but it's nice when I've had people from across the world remark how they're pleasantly surprised to see something local to them being covered by a non-local. I've learned so much in return from just having brief interactions with users from other countries, just by showing some genuine interest in them, their languages, and their home countries. But outside of my own posts, it's hard to find a place on Lemmy where there doesn't seem to be things looking to drive a wedge between us.

                        I used to be able to jump into random posts, even if it was something I wasn't very familiar with, to try to get conversations going, but so many news/political posts just feel rigged to get people riled up, and I'll scroll through and not find anything to interact with a lot now.

                        Plenty of people tell me that I'm doing something important by doing positive stuff here. I really like the small community we've got of people that regularly interact. It's hard to feel like I'm making any kind of difference though. I'm going to show up as long as people are talking to me, but there's plenty of times I ask myself why I don't just devote this time back into music or my volunteer work. I've dropped all my news and politics podcasts at this point because I'm sick of hearing it all. I censor myself on discussing animal rights issues because I don't want to add to the pile of negative stuff to worry about. I'll keep at it the best I can, but a lot of people here are sure making it an exhausting effort some days.

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                        • mintiefreshM mintiefresh

                          Honestly, I'm just trying to scroll less and do other stuff. I've started to do a lot more reading instead and it's helped me a lot.

                          The world seems so broken right now.

                          fujiwood@lemmy.worldF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          fujiwood@lemmy.world
                          wrote last edited by
                          #19

                          Books has a reading Bingo if you'd like to participate. 🙂

                          https://lemmy.world/post/38545766

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                          • anon6789A anon6789

                            It's really tough anymore to post positive content here. It feels like spitting on a fire to put it out.

                            I'm from the US, but I've always tried to include everyone in my posts, at the price of looking ignorant every now and then when I get things wrong, but it's nice when I've had people from across the world remark how they're pleasantly surprised to see something local to them being covered by a non-local. I've learned so much in return from just having brief interactions with users from other countries, just by showing some genuine interest in them, their languages, and their home countries. But outside of my own posts, it's hard to find a place on Lemmy where there doesn't seem to be things looking to drive a wedge between us.

                            I used to be able to jump into random posts, even if it was something I wasn't very familiar with, to try to get conversations going, but so many news/political posts just feel rigged to get people riled up, and I'll scroll through and not find anything to interact with a lot now.

                            Plenty of people tell me that I'm doing something important by doing positive stuff here. I really like the small community we've got of people that regularly interact. It's hard to feel like I'm making any kind of difference though. I'm going to show up as long as people are talking to me, but there's plenty of times I ask myself why I don't just devote this time back into music or my volunteer work. I've dropped all my news and politics podcasts at this point because I'm sick of hearing it all. I censor myself on discussing animal rights issues because I don't want to add to the pile of negative stuff to worry about. I'll keep at it the best I can, but a lot of people here are sure making it an exhausting effort some days.

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                            Iced Raktajino
                            wrote last edited by
                            #20

                            Yeah, to pretty much all that.

                            My experience here is generally pretty pleasant, but it took a LOT of work blocking untold numbers of communities, users, and instances to get here. Other on-boarding difficulties aside (for less savvy users), it's just a big ask to expect them to do all that work just to not be hit in the face with all the negativity and raging and dig deep for everything else. Reddit may have numerous flaws, but at least I can go to the front page and it doesn't feel like I'm walking into the midst of an angry mob.

                            My two cents is basically this: We did this to ourselves here. Elsewhere, we might have blamed the algorithms for pushing rage-bait front and center, but here it's 100% organic (unless there's just a massive bot problem which I don't have reason to suspect).

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                            • fujiwood@lemmy.worldF fujiwood@lemmy.world

                              Books has a reading Bingo if you'd like to participate. 🙂

                              https://lemmy.world/post/38545766

                              mintiefreshM This user is from outside of this forum
                              mintiefreshM This user is from outside of this forum
                              mintiefresh
                              wrote last edited by
                              #21

                              Oh that's really cool. Will check it out for sure.

                              Thanks!

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                              • Iced RaktajinoI Iced Raktajino

                                There have been a couple of posts somewhat recently asking what can be done to attract new users to the Fediverse. My answer was basically "make it something new people would want to see and stick around for". The crux of that was basically less news, less politics, less rage and more, well, anything else.

                                So, I would like to propose a challenge to all: Let's try that. At least for a week.

                                Sound good? Here's how you can participate:

                                1. If you're one who posts a lot of news/politics...stop or at least slow down. Post literally anything else. Or try to post less rage-inducing news and try to dig up the good news that's happening. Sorry !upliftingnews@lemmy.world but it's the regular news communities that are flooding the zone with every single bad thing that happens anywhere in the world, so we may be stealing some of your content with this one.

                                2. Think before posting something. Are you only posting it because you're mad about it and you think other people should be mad about it too? If so, maybe post something else. Is there already similar coverage of that? Chances are, we don't need more of it.

                                3. If you're a lurker, post something. Add your voice.

                                4. Refrain from upvoting / booting all the negativity. Yes, it may feel good to upvote for visibility because "people need to know this" but the end result is the feed turning into a list of things to rage about. If you see good/non-rage news, upvote that for visibility. I've seen many posts like that languish with a few tens of upvotes at most while the rage-inducing news gets hundreds of upvotes.

                                5. Post what makes you happy rather than what you're angry about.

                                6. Avoid dogpiling on people if they express a different opinion. I'm not saying feed the trolls or pat them on the head, just merely "disengage" or avoid the impulse to virtue dump on them and such.

                                7. If you have a hobby, share it! There's plenty of hobby communities that would greatly benefit from additional contributors. If you're boring like me, well, there's !Dullsters@dullsters.net or !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world (the latter welcomes all as the name is just a reference to the original)

                                8. Anything else you can think of to make the homepage/experience feel more welcoming and less like an angry mob (suggestions in the comments are more than welcome).

                                I know not everyone will participate, and that's okay. Simply adding more positivity and posting/boosting less rage can have a positive effect on what shows up on /all which is what potential new users see by default.

                                So, let's try this for a week and see what happens. Who knows? Maybe the established userbase will find it refreshing as well.

                                Who's with me?

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                                alligatorblizzard@sh.itjust.works
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                                I'm not with you because I've been spending a lot more time on Reddit right now on local subs, your premise fails right off the bat. I live in Minneapolis. I'm exhausted by the constant string of human rights and constitutional violations too but ignoring it doesn't mean the US isn't in active collapse.

                                I'd touch grass but there's too much ice outside right now.

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                                • C combatwombatesq@lemmy.world

                                  I definitely want to see more non-news content, but I don’t think the threadiverse needs less of anything. If you wanna post news and politics, have at it! The rest of us just need to get on their level with all our other hobbies and interests.

                                  Also, it’s discouraging to post in a niche community and always harvest downvotes from people that don’t like that you’re posting at all. I get it, there aren’t other NWSL/MLS fans out here, but could you please stop doing drive-bys and downvoting all my articles?

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                                  The amount of Karening aka entitlement that I've seen here (tbf it's probably far worse in the likes of Reddit and Facebook by now) has shocked me. Mainly I mean: why would people downvote things simply for appearing in All... that's literally what you asked to see, by choosing to browse "All", and then you act like it has assaulted your delicate sensibilities? If you do not like it then block it and you'll never have to see it again... or it's even easier simply to scroll down.

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                                  • Iced RaktajinoI Iced Raktajino

                                    Yeah, to pretty much all that.

                                    My experience here is generally pretty pleasant, but it took a LOT of work blocking untold numbers of communities, users, and instances to get here. Other on-boarding difficulties aside (for less savvy users), it's just a big ask to expect them to do all that work just to not be hit in the face with all the negativity and raging and dig deep for everything else. Reddit may have numerous flaws, but at least I can go to the front page and it doesn't feel like I'm walking into the midst of an angry mob.

                                    My two cents is basically this: We did this to ourselves here. Elsewhere, we might have blamed the algorithms for pushing rage-bait front and center, but here it's 100% organic (unless there's just a massive bot problem which I don't have reason to suspect).

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                                    (unless there’s just a massive bot problem which I don’t have reason to suspect)

                                    Actually those are known to exist - see e.g. https://lemmy.ca/post/58955248 - though as evidenced by that same post, the admins tend to be pretty on top of shutting them down.

                                    Below that though, at the level of communities, Lemmy has a moderation problem. Reports from one instance to anther do not federate (well, on PieFed they do, but on Lemmy they don't) - although like everything else this is promised to be fixed "soon" (same as last year iirc, and to a lesser degree the year before that too, though probably more in the sense of just having put it onto the roadmap), which allows toxicity to thrive. Ironically it also encourages having toxic mods as well, seeing as they are the only ones willing to put up with the majority of the negative flood pushed at them.

                                    And don't even get me started on the lack of notification to someone that their content was removed by a mod - people tend to find out days/weeks/years later/if at all, meaning that they continue unabated, not even aware at all (or at least, at first) that they have been so censured.

                                    Lemmy also is lacking is so many other ways, e.g. content discovery is often primarily achieved by browsing All, rather than lets say by browsing Topic areas (I am not discouraging the existence of the All Feed, just bemoaning the lack of many alternatives to it). So communities get "stumbled upon" much more readily by people not actively searching for something anywhere close to that content type, who might tend to emotionally vomit upon people rather than be genuinely interested in constructive dialog.

                                    Reddit is a multimillion dollar company and even though the vast majority of the features rolled out over the last decade either ignored or actively went against what the userbase wanted, it nonetheless was a fully feature-complete product. e.g. it triggered notifications upon removal of your content, it had a modmail allowing you to communicate with the team to ask why, and posts removed from a community remained active to anyone possessing the URL, allowing people to continue discussions already begun, which personally as a mod of a small gaming community I used to explain to the OP why I felt their post had to be removed, and we could talk about it back and forth. None of that can be done here (although PieFed now retains deleted posts, rendering them inactive/locked but preserving their content to be read, so that e.g. a Q&A would preserve the A part even if the OP deleted their Q).

                                    The Threadiverse is great for FOSS, not so much great as in overall terms. We make sacrifices to be here, and the benefits tend to be more abstract and harder to explain in few words (at least without needing all kinds of MAJOR caveats about what does not work). Even Linux took decades to arrive at where it is at today, and until then it was primarily a CLI tool for all that time (gfx options often did not work as well or even properly at all, earlier in its development).

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                                    • jimbo@pawb.socialJ jimbo@pawb.social

                                      I've been blocking so many news communities because I go on Lemmy to have a good time. Every second post recently has been politics and I'm so sick of it. I am so for this

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                                      I presume that people already know about the older communities like !wholesome@reddthat.com and all the communities listed in its side-bar, but also check out the newer !nonpolitical_comics@piefed.social.

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                                      • M mrdown@lemmy.world

                                        We are living in a world full of conflicts and political tension that we never seen since the end of world war 2. You can't expect people to post less negstive contents. If you talk about balance between negative and positive content I can agree

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                                        jimmy90@lemmy.world
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                                        lemmy and doomerism are synonymous at this point

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                                          jubilantjaguar@lemmy.world
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                                          For a successful community, this one (which I also lurk in) is oddly topic-specific. They must be doing something right. Copy them!

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