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    cibbecker@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Awesome!

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      fizz@lemmy.nz
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      Are the Lemmy and piefed devs going to be a part of this? We need some representation so its not all addressing micro blogging things

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        Are the Lemmy and piefed devs going to be a part of this? We need some representation so its not all addressing micro blogging things

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        julian
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        To my knowledge, one must be an "invited expert" in order to join these discussions.

        However, the working group is only one aspect. The community group has been in existence for a number of years. I am part of that group (although I admit I don't go to as many meetings as I ought to), and try to represent the threadiverse as best as I can.

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          mooglemaestro@lemmy.zip
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          While LOLA is great, I'd really love an established handshake mechanism for having two accounts on two bespoke services represent the same user.

          For example, I want to have a pixel fed and mastodon presence that can be authored between the two. However, you currently can't make two accounts that are effectively linked to each other. I feel like this linking is important for further decentralizing the fediverse (by effectively decentralizing the user itself)

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          • mooglemaestro@lemmy.zipM mooglemaestro@lemmy.zip

            While LOLA is great, I'd really love an established handshake mechanism for having two accounts on two bespoke services represent the same user.

            For example, I want to have a pixel fed and mastodon presence that can be authored between the two. However, you currently can't make two accounts that are effectively linked to each other. I feel like this linking is important for further decentralizing the fediverse (by effectively decentralizing the user itself)

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            julian
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            This is something I believe the ActivityPub API can tackle...

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            • mooglemaestro@lemmy.zipM mooglemaestro@lemmy.zip

              While LOLA is great, I'd really love an established handshake mechanism for having two accounts on two bespoke services represent the same user.

              For example, I want to have a pixel fed and mastodon presence that can be authored between the two. However, you currently can't make two accounts that are effectively linked to each other. I feel like this linking is important for further decentralizing the fediverse (by effectively decentralizing the user itself)

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              rako
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              That's because AP as it is implemented today is crap, it's a superficial compatibility layer on top of a proprietary (as in, doing non-standardized stuff) platform. We need to take it on its head and make AP the actual core then build on top but that requires some work

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              • rakoR rako

                That's because AP as it is implemented today is crap, it's a superficial compatibility layer on top of a proprietary (as in, doing non-standardized stuff) platform. We need to take it on its head and make AP the actual core then build on top but that requires some work

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                What is this proprietary layer you speak of?

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                  The mastodon api, or the lemmy api, or the xyz api. Eagh platform has its own. Being public doesn't make it standard, hence the "proprietary" qualifier

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                    The mastodon api, or the lemmy api, or the xyz api. Eagh platform has its own. Being public doesn't make it standard, hence the "proprietary" qualifier

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                    julian
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                    #11

                    Oh I see. Yes, AP first apps would be great, but getting older apps connected via AP is important too.

                    NodeBB predates ActivityPub (or came around the same time), and so we added it recently. It works quite well with our existing code. Not much of a compatibility layer.

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                    • mooglemaestro@lemmy.zipM mooglemaestro@lemmy.zip

                      While LOLA is great, I'd really love an established handshake mechanism for having two accounts on two bespoke services represent the same user.

                      For example, I want to have a pixel fed and mastodon presence that can be authored between the two. However, you currently can't make two accounts that are effectively linked to each other. I feel like this linking is important for further decentralizing the fediverse (by effectively decentralizing the user itself)

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                      hector@lemmy.today
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                      #12

                      I am unversed on all of this, but agree that interoperability between not only instances but also platforms like between lemmy and mastadon, and even a friend connection site to replace facebook, could help the fediverse grow to finally get a critical mass.

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