Obsidian's The Outer Worlds 2 Underperformed, and There Won't Be a Third - IGN
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I mean, there's no great secret, right ? The Outer Worlds is just an alright-ish franchise. Bethesda without the incompetence, but also without the hype.
and without the fun
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Ya know... if they had spent a single second on the story instead and maybe made a cohesive plot that followed anywhere close to the first instead of phoning in the bullshit they did...it might have been a bit more well received.
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I couldn't get into veil guard. The combat was pretty good and it looks pretty. The characters were annoying and seemed... Type cast? All their dialogue seemed corny. Maybe they get better throughout the story but the story also didn't grab me.
I played all the others and the mass effect series multiple times. I even enjoyed Andromeda for what it was (though I quit at the final mission save for some reason).
My guess on Veilguard is that after the original creator left, now it was up to remaining writers to maintain passion in lore that they didn't formulate. So Veilguard, it all gets watered down and anticlimactically rolled out and the focus ended up being relationship drama which still sucked.
A Dragon Age game that wants to be Lifetime channel medieval teenage fantasy romance but the characters are all seasoned combat veteran adults so it's very weird for them to behaving so childish and unprofessional or even blase about the world ending/faith shattering reveals in the story. They are weirdly archetypal high school students placed in the wrong story
I played DA1-3 a bunch of times. Veilguard just sucks. ME1-3 I never liked like KOTOR 1and 2 but good enough. Andromeda, it's not interesting. Dropped maybe halfway through. Good gunplay and movement but overly big uninteresting worlds. I don't remember what any character wanted. At least Inquisition, the different areas were visually memorable
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Yeah the first was alright, like a small scale Bethesda game with pretty ok gunplay. I got my copy for free (thanks epic) but it still wasn't enough to interest me to buy the second.
Well they definitely learned a lot from Bethesda. Maybe too much. But they also outperform Bethesda in a lot of ways. Like using unreal, it just allows way more realistic facial movements than any Bethesda game allows, making NPCs feel far more realistic, and therefore allowing better immersion. But Bethesda absolutely needs to start from scratch with a new engine if they want to continue using their own. With an updated engine it could pump out games much faster than trying to continuously upgrade the old ass engine to look better. It's seriously out of date when facial movements still are only confined to the mouth like their newest game, starfield. Like games back in the day would use the same engine and get a new one out 2-3 years later. Why can't we do that again?
I just want more content, if you put out a game I love, I don't need the most advanced version of it, just give me another with a new story on the same engine. It worked great with old grand theft Auto games. I totally understand why it wouldn't work like call of duty, because they put almost no effort in the story. But cutting down on on the effort of the engine, and focusing on story, would be fine. Their biggest anchor is the engine.
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Ya know... if they had spent a single second on the story instead and maybe made a cohesive plot that followed anywhere close to the first instead of phoning in the bullshit they did...it might have been a bit more well received.
im guessing outer worlds 2 has a similar story to borderlands 4? which if so im definitely not interested lol
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God man, shits so sad but I'd be lying if I said I was surprised at all. The first one was very OK, like it was certainly a game that I played and bothered completing. They were very lucky someone had the idea to make Parvati in the first game, the rest of the crew was a snooze fest (at least for me). But then I see the shitty commercial they made for the companions in the 2nd game, and no fucking wonder it didn't sell! They tell you nothing, play that god awful song over some shitty footage and crack a joke about how none of them are romance-able. They then charge 80 bucks, and make fun of you if you pay for their premium edition, yea go fuck yourself obsidian, and stop taking credit for new Vegas, none of those team members are still around.
dude parvarti was like 95% of the reason i kept playing outer worlds 1 until the end
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im guessing outer worlds 2 has a similar story to borderlands 4? which if so im definitely not interested lol
Never played BL4....so can't comment. As far as OW2... they had a decent bit of potential to work with...and instead went a different route entirely
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God man, shits so sad but I'd be lying if I said I was surprised at all. The first one was very OK, like it was certainly a game that I played and bothered completing. They were very lucky someone had the idea to make Parvati in the first game, the rest of the crew was a snooze fest (at least for me). But then I see the shitty commercial they made for the companions in the 2nd game, and no fucking wonder it didn't sell! They tell you nothing, play that god awful song over some shitty footage and crack a joke about how none of them are romance-able. They then charge 80 bucks, and make fun of you if you pay for their premium edition, yea go fuck yourself obsidian, and stop taking credit for new Vegas, none of those team members are still around.
I'm not sure which of you is right, but another comment below said JSawyer is still at Obsidian. That's the name for me, and probably for a lot of people.
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I'm not sure which of you is right, but another comment below said JSawyer is still at Obsidian. That's the name for me, and probably for a lot of people.
I'll be real, I did not know he still worked there, that's what I get for saying things without looking it up. That being said, according to Wikipedia, he didn't have a hand in OW1, Avowed, or OW2. Why brag about having JSawyer if he isn't even working on it you know?
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Never played BL4....so can't comment. As far as OW2... they had a decent bit of potential to work with...and instead went a different route entirely
from the little i played of ow2 it seemed like the exact same story setup as borderlands 4 lol
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from the little i played of ow2 it seemed like the exact same story setup as borderlands 4 lol
That's unfortunate....
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But i thought capitalisme le bad with reddit humor was very popular ?
What happenned ?
Does the dev that was proud to publicly said he did racial discrimination to recruit new talent was wrong once again ? -
I'll be real, I did not know he still worked there, that's what I get for saying things without looking it up. That being said, according to Wikipedia, he didn't have a hand in OW1, Avowed, or OW2. Why brag about having JSawyer if he isn't even working on it you know?
Yeah, I get you. I haven't played OW2 but Avowed is so... not fun, for me. I'll give it another shot someday.
OW1 tho was okay I thought. Not good enough to motivate me to play the DLCs I had already paid for, lol.
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Ya know... if they had spent a single second on the story instead and maybe made a cohesive plot that followed anywhere close to the first instead of phoning in the bullshit they did...it might have been a bit more well received.
I read this review and absolutely agreed with it.
Fallout works because they wrote a really compelling real world. Then, they sprinkled jokes.
Outer Worlds went the other direction. They wrote jokes, and tried to build a world around that. The Borderlands comparison is accurate.
And it's not like the world lore sucks. Using Borderlands as an example: Tales from the Borderlands focused on a compelling story first.
Which is kind of crazy because I don't understand how they made the original Fallout 1&2 and New Vegas. Like, they created this style of storytelling.
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I read this review and absolutely agreed with it.
Fallout works because they wrote a really compelling real world. Then, they sprinkled jokes.
Outer Worlds went the other direction. They wrote jokes, and tried to build a world around that. The Borderlands comparison is accurate.
And it's not like the world lore sucks. Using Borderlands as an example: Tales from the Borderlands focused on a compelling story first.
Which is kind of crazy because I don't understand how they made the original Fallout 1&2 and New Vegas. Like, they created this style of storytelling.
I'm not super hip on dev team rosters... so I may be talking out my ass... but i wonder if nothing of that Obsidian is left?
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Tried it
️, they seem to have gone for "It's bigger than the first one!" and indeed it is. Big, empty spaces to run through with nothing happening. Uninstalled. 70€ saved.Stop making huge environments full of nothing.
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Yeah, I get you. I haven't played OW2 but Avowed is so... not fun, for me. I'll give it another shot someday.
OW1 tho was okay I thought. Not good enough to motivate me to play the DLCs I had already paid for, lol.
i found avowed the best out of the 3 (ow1 and ow2)
try using pistols cause theyre fuckin broken lol
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i found avowed the best out of the 3 (ow1 and ow2)
try using pistols cause theyre fuckin broken lol
Idk it's not the combat, I just didn't find myself able to engage in the world? Maybe if I played pillars?
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At that price tag, I'm not surprised
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My guess on Veilguard is that after the original creator left, now it was up to remaining writers to maintain passion in lore that they didn't formulate. So Veilguard, it all gets watered down and anticlimactically rolled out and the focus ended up being relationship drama which still sucked.
A Dragon Age game that wants to be Lifetime channel medieval teenage fantasy romance but the characters are all seasoned combat veteran adults so it's very weird for them to behaving so childish and unprofessional or even blase about the world ending/faith shattering reveals in the story. They are weirdly archetypal high school students placed in the wrong story
I played DA1-3 a bunch of times. Veilguard just sucks. ME1-3 I never liked like KOTOR 1and 2 but good enough. Andromeda, it's not interesting. Dropped maybe halfway through. Good gunplay and movement but overly big uninteresting worlds. I don't remember what any character wanted. At least Inquisition, the different areas were visually memorable
Super late response but lifetime chanel medieval teen romance sums up my the feeling I got from the game. It perfectly resonated with me.
I enjoy listening to audiobooks that are pretty much escapist power fantasy's and they have more interesting worlds and characters than veil guard did.
