Can Someone Help Me Understand Why ‘The Sinner’ has Nominations? Yes, I Did Watch It, But Only Once So Far.
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I’m confused, CoM is a about dehumanising treatment if immigrants, same as One Battle After Another.
I remember it being about suddenly The World is having trouble producing children & main character is working to protect a child, from traffickers?
I guess I will have to watch it again, next time it comes up the movie channels, I must have it wrong. I disliked the movie, but that might also change. -
Was not impressed with sinners. Feels like its one of those things with fanboys or just groups that want it to be a thing. I would take dusk to dawn over it. The start is so slow I almost turned it off but when it finally got to the horror aspect it rose to mediocre. It does get bonus points for buddy guy and the ending but thats about it.
Yeah, let us not forget the legend that is Buddy Guy, at the end, especially.
‘Dusk Till Dawn’, the best thing about that was stripper Salma Hayek, back in the day, give me a night, PLEASE! Like her body was in porn first, but as an actress is awesome, as well, but now older not so hot. Like I am older & less hot.
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I remember it being about suddenly The World is having trouble producing children & main character is working to protect a child, from traffickers?
I guess I will have to watch it again, next time it comes up the movie channels, I must have it wrong. I disliked the movie, but that might also change.I remember it being about suddenly The World is having trouble producing children & main character is working to protect a child, from traffickers?
Theo, the protagonist of CoM smuggles a pregnant woman to some scientific enclave while all sorts of nasty people try to capture her for political benefit.
That’s the reason for story to move forwards but when you distill it then both movies have this sort of has-been loser revolutionary protagonist that tries to save the world as they know it through a kid. Both films utilise beautiful cinematography to show people trying to find safety being treated like cattle over and over which is why I think that’s what they’re ultimately about.
One thing that hurts One Battle After Another (especially when compared) is that panders toward liberals a bit too much which means it won’t age as well IMO. Children of Men was showing us the future which is happening now, without being too preachy, which is far more impressive to me.
It’s a shame One Battle After Another wasn’t adapted for screen earlier since the source novel was published few years before CoM novel. Right now it’s more of „I support/oppose the current thing” with no room left for ambiguity which is rather polarising and unproductive if not detrimental to fixing things.
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I remember it being about suddenly The World is having trouble producing children & main character is working to protect a child, from traffickers?
Theo, the protagonist of CoM smuggles a pregnant woman to some scientific enclave while all sorts of nasty people try to capture her for political benefit.
That’s the reason for story to move forwards but when you distill it then both movies have this sort of has-been loser revolutionary protagonist that tries to save the world as they know it through a kid. Both films utilise beautiful cinematography to show people trying to find safety being treated like cattle over and over which is why I think that’s what they’re ultimately about.
One thing that hurts One Battle After Another (especially when compared) is that panders toward liberals a bit too much which means it won’t age as well IMO. Children of Men was showing us the future which is happening now, without being too preachy, which is far more impressive to me.
It’s a shame One Battle After Another wasn’t adapted for screen earlier since the source novel was published few years before CoM novel. Right now it’s more of „I support/oppose the current thing” with no room left for ambiguity which is rather polarising and unproductive if not detrimental to fixing things.
Actually Liberals are not The Political Left any more, Obama killed that, with the political use of the word change. Maybe, you are thinking of Progressive?
The movie fits into more reality of always have been living in. You have lived through our times, like the rest of us. You cannot see the need for this sort movie, & still a lot more? -
Yeah, let us not forget the legend that is Buddy Guy, at the end, especially.
‘Dusk Till Dawn’, the best thing about that was stripper Salma Hayek, back in the day, give me a night, PLEASE! Like her body was in porn first, but as an actress is awesome, as well, but now older not so hot. Like I am older & less hot.
I to am older and less hot. Don't think I was ever very hot though but I had some things my wife liked. She wanted a faithful husband though and took chris rocks advice to heart.
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Actually Liberals are not The Political Left any more, Obama killed that, with the political use of the word change. Maybe, you are thinking of Progressive?
The movie fits into more reality of always have been living in. You have lived through our times, like the rest of us. You cannot see the need for this sort movie, & still a lot more?Treating immigration as a purely progressive / conservative matter is too reductive and that’s how One Battle After Another did it. The reality is that not everyone against immigration is evil or dumb. A leftist might remember that unions were at their strongest when immigration was at its lowest. This is why I said it panders to liberals too much, America is so polarised it can’t do nuance anymore.
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I remember it being about suddenly The World is having trouble producing children & main character is working to protect a child, from traffickers?
Theo, the protagonist of CoM smuggles a pregnant woman to some scientific enclave while all sorts of nasty people try to capture her for political benefit.
That’s the reason for story to move forwards but when you distill it then both movies have this sort of has-been loser revolutionary protagonist that tries to save the world as they know it through a kid. Both films utilise beautiful cinematography to show people trying to find safety being treated like cattle over and over which is why I think that’s what they’re ultimately about.
One thing that hurts One Battle After Another (especially when compared) is that panders toward liberals a bit too much which means it won’t age as well IMO. Children of Men was showing us the future which is happening now, without being too preachy, which is far more impressive to me.
It’s a shame One Battle After Another wasn’t adapted for screen earlier since the source novel was published few years before CoM novel. Right now it’s more of „I support/oppose the current thing” with no room left for ambiguity which is rather polarising and unproductive if not detrimental to fixing things.
Children of Men had much stronger dystopian sci-fi motifs. It reminded me of Brazil for some reason. One Battle, After Another was more of a mass market feature. That being said, I watched it in the cinema and I enjoyed it. It was a good movie.
I do think Children of Men (not to mention Brazil which is arguably a classic of cinematography by this point) is better.
The miracle cease fire scene really caught my attention when I first saw the movie in the late 2000s.
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Treating immigration as a purely progressive / conservative matter is too reductive and that’s how One Battle After Another did it. The reality is that not everyone against immigration is evil or dumb. A leftist might remember that unions were at their strongest when immigration was at its lowest. This is why I said it panders to liberals too much, America is so polarised it can’t do nuance anymore.
I would argue it's not reductive to treat the current approach used to manage immigration in the US as almost comically stupid (not to mention being founded on mostly posturing and self-aggrandization "I support the law").
Managing immigration is one thing, but allowing your country to become like russia with security forces beating and killing people under the alleged pretense of managing immigration is definitely a sign of maliciousness.
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I to am older and less hot. Don't think I was ever very hot though but I had some things my wife liked. She wanted a faithful husband though and took chris rocks advice to heart.
So true, there are more important things, than just attractiveness. Your wife I assume was a wise woman.
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Treating immigration as a purely progressive / conservative matter is too reductive and that’s how One Battle After Another did it. The reality is that not everyone against immigration is evil or dumb. A leftist might remember that unions were at their strongest when immigration was at its lowest. This is why I said it panders to liberals too much, America is so polarised it can’t do nuance anymore.
“ America is so polarised it can’t do nuance anymore.”
I think compromising to come together like The Capitalist, or should I now be saying Feudalism, wants us to is also Evil. But too many of our species talks past everyone, because they are not flexible enough to critically think about what they believe is the only answer, because they grew-up with those believes, whether or not from families. Critically test everything you believe, especially, when others disagree 1st, then argue with what fails!
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So true, there are more important things, than just attractiveness. Your wife I assume was a wise woman.
She is. I used pass tense for liked because I meant when she met me not that she is gone. We talk about we are together because both of us realize life is hard enough with out making it harder than it needs to be.
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I would argue it's not reductive to treat the current approach used to manage immigration in the US as almost comically stupid (not to mention being founded on mostly posturing and self-aggrandization "I support the law").
Managing immigration is one thing, but allowing your country to become like russia with security forces beating and killing people under the alleged pretense of managing immigration is definitely a sign of maliciousness.
US administration is comically evil but if you assume motivations of those who supported them are the same for all of them then you’re only going to antagonise those that were misled. That was my big issue with One Battle After Another - it won’t change anyone’s mind if they have an opinion on the matter.
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“ America is so polarised it can’t do nuance anymore.”
I think compromising to come together like The Capitalist, or should I now be saying Feudalism, wants us to is also Evil. But too many of our species talks past everyone, because they are not flexible enough to critically think about what they believe is the only answer, because they grew-up with those believes, whether or not from families. Critically test everything you believe, especially, when others disagree 1st, then argue with what fails!
Nobody expects you guys to shake hands with billionaires but take a step back and consider why people voted for Trump. No, it’s not misinformation.
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I was so ready to be blown away by the movie, like the director, but do not like all his movies, was on ‘Democracy Now’ before ‘Sinners’ came out…
…But while watching it, towards the middle I was like it is good, but no where near as good as the build-up was about & I was expecting!
I have heard that it is creatively different than others, but wait a heck of a second there, have they watch a lot of vampire movies, in that time?
I heard it is Bluezy (SP?), well these last 10-years I have added Blues to my music group. So that was okay, but not making it a nominated movie.
The acting, by Michael B. Jordan being awesome. Okay, I will admit that I am not the best judge of acting, unlike the whole of movies that I am real good at & give a lot of benefit of the doubt. So okay maybe give actor, of two-main characters in the movie, Michael B. Jordan a nomination & maybe, win the nomination.As a very serious veteran & long term activist & political person, through Independent & Left-Far Left media-
Have these nominators really watched ‘One Battle, After Another’? Talk about creative, different than tons that has come before & will come after, on par with when I watched ‘Matrix’ & talked about on the way home. As I said, after watching ‘One Battle, After Another’, it was one of the best movies I have ever watched! Yes, actor Leonardo DiCaprio did an awesome job, with a role he next to never plays, but so did Sean Penn & every single actor/actress in the main roles. Yes, I admit I am a bad judge of acting, but their performances were so awesome, believable that they broke through my inability judge acting.
Movie’s script was believable!It was an original story by a well known filmmaker. Acting is great and the score plus the scene with all the different generations of music is insanely well mixed and very well done. Had characters I was attached to and had a good ending plus the scene after the credits. Was probably my movie of the year.
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She is. I used pass tense for liked because I meant when she met me not that she is gone. We talk about we are together because both of us realize life is hard enough with out making it harder than it needs to be.
Sorry, should have used is, instead of was.
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Nobody expects you guys to shake hands with billionaires but take a step back and consider why people voted for Trump. No, it’s not misinformation.
Because they gave-up on the election process of The USA, for good reasons, but then when doing so, you elected ‘The Crazy Don’. Plus reasons include afraid of progressive, limited as it was that the country’s people were making, greedy for their profits, racist, stupid about The USA politics (as those that voted for The Dem. ‘90+% Capitalist’ Party that supported greater genocide of Palestine). All these reasons I had either saw video of their answering the question why or records of completed surveys of those that voted for ‘The Crazy Don’!
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Because they gave-up on the election process of The USA, for good reasons, but then when doing so, you elected ‘The Crazy Don’. Plus reasons include afraid of progressive, limited as it was that the country’s people were making, greedy for their profits, racist, stupid about The USA politics (as those that voted for The Dem. ‘90+% Capitalist’ Party that supported greater genocide of Palestine). All these reasons I had either saw video of their answering the question why or records of completed surveys of those that voted for ‘The Crazy Don’!
Voting for either The Rep. ‘Crazy Capitalist’ Party or The Dem. ‘90+% Capitalist’ Party is.
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It was an original story by a well known filmmaker. Acting is great and the score plus the scene with all the different generations of music is insanely well mixed and very well done. Had characters I was attached to and had a good ending plus the scene after the credits. Was probably my movie of the year.
Original movie just not registering with me, seen too many similar ones with Vampires.
Music & score is a awesome point.
Remind me,
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US administration is comically evil but if you assume motivations of those who supported them are the same for all of them then you’re only going to antagonise those that were misled. That was my big issue with One Battle After Another - it won’t change anyone’s mind if they have an opinion on the matter.
but if you assume motivations of those who supported them are the same for all of them then you’re only going to antagonise those that were misled
From my experience living in the US, that seems true.
I traveled extensively (~15 states minimum) and I believe I had a broad exposure to local culture (from provincial "hoods" with different ethnicities, very rich and "conservative" suburbs to more cosmopolitan experiences in NYC, Chicago, LA, SF).
That being said, there is a limit to everything. At some point intent stops mattering and the outcome is what counts.
My personal opinion (I may be wrong), is that US is a dead end. There won't be any any positive changes in the next 20-30 years minimum. The far right is committed to corruption, criminality and posturing around "freedoms" and "I support the law" and the centre-right voting public is too well off to rock the boat until it's too late.
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Nobody expects you guys to shake hands with billionaires but take a step back and consider why people voted for Trump. No, it’s not misinformation.
You know I once was lost in family domination & thus Capitalist Lamestream domination over me, go with the flow person, whatever you want & voted Dem. ‘90+% Capitalist’ Party & even campaigned with my dad for I think Hillary & Kerry, in a poor housing complex in the nearest cities. That shameful evil, as an adult, will forever stick to me.
