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  • artyomA artyom

    Clickbait:

    I understand not wanting to "editorialize" the author's title, and it's even forbidden in some communities. That's fine, just include something in the text, or possibly append it to the end of the title in brackets. ie:

    Scientists have unveiled the secret to long life using this one weird trick! [diet and exercise]

    Probably 90% of articles I come across can be summarized in 1-2 sentences. I often find myself doing just that, in other people's posts, but putting it in the comments makes it far less visible.

    Sources:

    Please do not link your post to a source of a source. Sometimes I have to click 3 and 4 articles deep to find the original source. Many times they don't include the original source, or any other source to speak of, they just link back to their own publication a dozen fucking times. If you come across an article that links to another source, which also isn't the original source, and without adding meaningful context, just link to the original source, please.

    Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

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    deleted@lemmy.world
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    I wish I can upvote this 100 times.

    I skip posts with articles that have 0 comments and wait for the smartiaian who will read the article and summarize the 2 sentences.

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    • artyomA artyom

      Clickbait:

      I understand not wanting to "editorialize" the author's title, and it's even forbidden in some communities. That's fine, just include something in the text, or possibly append it to the end of the title in brackets. ie:

      Scientists have unveiled the secret to long life using this one weird trick! [diet and exercise]

      Probably 90% of articles I come across can be summarized in 1-2 sentences. I often find myself doing just that, in other people's posts, but putting it in the comments makes it far less visible.

      Sources:

      Please do not link your post to a source of a source. Sometimes I have to click 3 and 4 articles deep to find the original source. Many times they don't include the original source, or any other source to speak of, they just link back to their own publication a dozen fucking times. If you come across an article that links to another source, which also isn't the original source, and without adding meaningful context, just link to the original source, please.

      Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

      steve@communick.newsS This user is from outside of this forum
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      steve@communick.news
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      #3

      Why put the summary in the comments instead of the post text?

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      • artyomA artyom

        Clickbait:

        I understand not wanting to "editorialize" the author's title, and it's even forbidden in some communities. That's fine, just include something in the text, or possibly append it to the end of the title in brackets. ie:

        Scientists have unveiled the secret to long life using this one weird trick! [diet and exercise]

        Probably 90% of articles I come across can be summarized in 1-2 sentences. I often find myself doing just that, in other people's posts, but putting it in the comments makes it far less visible.

        Sources:

        Please do not link your post to a source of a source. Sometimes I have to click 3 and 4 articles deep to find the original source. Many times they don't include the original source, or any other source to speak of, they just link back to their own publication a dozen fucking times. If you come across an article that links to another source, which also isn't the original source, and without adding meaningful context, just link to the original source, please.

        Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

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        Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
        wrote last edited by
        #4

        Let's also not throw out the baby with the bathwater.

        Aka. discredit any and all content just because of a clickbaity title.

        Veritasium does a good deep dive into Clickbait:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2xHZPH5Sng

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        • D deleted@lemmy.world

          I wish I can upvote this 100 times.

          I skip posts with articles that have 0 comments and wait for the smartiaian who will read the article and summarize the 2 sentences.

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          plantjam@lemmy.world
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          #5

          I like to browse by new, but that also means most things have no comments. Which sort do you usually use?

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          • steve@communick.newsS steve@communick.news

            Why put the summary in the comments instead of the post text?

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            artyom
            wrote last edited by
            #6

            Because I am not OP in that situation.

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            • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

              Let's also not throw out the baby with the bathwater.

              Aka. discredit any and all content just because of a clickbaity title.

              Veritasium does a good deep dive into Clickbait:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2xHZPH5Sng

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              artyom
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              I don't discredit them but I often avoid them, because they give me no reason to watch them.

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              • artyomA artyom

                I don't discredit them but I often avoid them, because they give me no reason to watch them.

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                Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
                wrote last edited by
                #8

                If something is obvious click bait I do the same, but many legit authors use clickbait because it's needed in this attention economy.

                (see the video link I posted above)

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                • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                  If something is obvious click bait I do the same, but many legit authors use clickbait because it's needed in this attention economy.

                  (see the video link I posted above)

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                  artyom
                  wrote last edited by
                  #9

                  I saw the video you posted when it was published several years ago. I don't care why they do it.

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                  • artyomA artyom

                    Because I am not OP in that situation.

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                    steve@communick.news
                    wrote last edited by steve@communick.news
                    #10

                    Oooh...
                    That was unclear. It sounded like you were talking about posting.

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                    • steve@communick.newsS steve@communick.news

                      Oooh...
                      That was unclear. It sounded like you were talking about posting.

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                      artyom
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                      Fixed, thanks

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                      • artyomA artyom

                        I saw the video you posted when it was published several years ago. I don't care why they do it.

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                        wrote last edited by ek-hou-van-braai@piefed.social
                        #12

                        Your own posts have clickbaity titles.
                        https://piefed.social/u/artyom

                        It's sadly basically unavoidable

                        Why don't more distros use this method? (click here and find out)

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                        • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                          Your own posts have clickbaity titles.
                          https://piefed.social/u/artyom

                          It's sadly basically unavoidable

                          Why don't more distros use this method? (click here and find out)

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                          artyom
                          wrote last edited by
                          #13

                          Your own posts have clickbaity titles.

                          No they don't.

                          It's sadly basically unavoidable

                          It's absolutely not. Even if it were, including context when sharing third party links is also not unavoidable.

                          Why don't more distros do this... (click here and find out)

                          You can't click it and find out, because I don't know. It was a genuine question. There's a picture explaining exactly what I'm talking about. I don't make money using this account, I have no motivation to use clickbait.

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                          • artyomA artyom

                            Your own posts have clickbaity titles.

                            No they don't.

                            It's sadly basically unavoidable

                            It's absolutely not. Even if it were, including context when sharing third party links is also not unavoidable.

                            Why don't more distros do this... (click here and find out)

                            You can't click it and find out, because I don't know. It was a genuine question. There's a picture explaining exactly what I'm talking about. I don't make money using this account, I have no motivation to use clickbait.

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                            Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
                            wrote last edited by
                            #14

                            I agree adding context is great, ideally even add a summary so a person doesn't have to click.

                            "You can click it and find out."
                            How is that not clickbait?

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                            • artyomA artyom

                              Clickbait:

                              I understand not wanting to "editorialize" the author's title, and it's even forbidden in some communities. That's fine, just include something in the text, or possibly append it to the end of the title in brackets. ie:

                              Scientists have unveiled the secret to long life using this one weird trick! [diet and exercise]

                              Probably 90% of articles I come across can be summarized in 1-2 sentences. I often find myself doing just that, in other people's posts, but putting it in the comments makes it far less visible.

                              Sources:

                              Please do not link your post to a source of a source. Sometimes I have to click 3 and 4 articles deep to find the original source. Many times they don't include the original source, or any other source to speak of, they just link back to their own publication a dozen fucking times. If you come across an article that links to another source, which also isn't the original source, and without adding meaningful context, just link to the original source, please.

                              Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

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                              veee
                              wrote last edited by
                              #15

                              Hard agree. I tend to ignore posts that only provide a link and nothing else.

                              At the very least highlight something of the text in the post description that is worth reading to create a discussion, and then give us your two cents in the comments.

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                              • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                I agree adding context is great, ideally even add a summary so a person doesn't have to click.

                                "You can click it and find out."
                                How is that not clickbait?

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                                artyom
                                wrote last edited by
                                #16

                                "You can click it and find out." How is that not clickbait?

                                Read it again. You missed a letter.

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                                • artyomA artyom

                                  "You can click it and find out." How is that not clickbait?

                                  Read it again. You missed a letter.

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                                  Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
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                                  #17

                                  Oh my bad lol, didn't have a close enough look at that post

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                                  • artyomA artyom

                                    Clickbait:

                                    I understand not wanting to "editorialize" the author's title, and it's even forbidden in some communities. That's fine, just include something in the text, or possibly append it to the end of the title in brackets. ie:

                                    Scientists have unveiled the secret to long life using this one weird trick! [diet and exercise]

                                    Probably 90% of articles I come across can be summarized in 1-2 sentences. I often find myself doing just that, in other people's posts, but putting it in the comments makes it far less visible.

                                    Sources:

                                    Please do not link your post to a source of a source. Sometimes I have to click 3 and 4 articles deep to find the original source. Many times they don't include the original source, or any other source to speak of, they just link back to their own publication a dozen fucking times. If you come across an article that links to another source, which also isn't the original source, and without adding meaningful context, just link to the original source, please.

                                    Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

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                                    I hate this on gaming communities:

                                    This fast-paced shooter is reinventing the format, taking the Steam charts by storm!

                                    Just tell me the fucking name of the game so I can tell if I've already heard of it or if this is actually new information.

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                                    • veeeV veee

                                      Hard agree. I tend to ignore posts that only provide a link and nothing else.

                                      At the very least highlight something of the text in the post description that is worth reading to create a discussion, and then give us your two cents in the comments.

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                                      magnificentsteiner@lemmy.zip
                                      wrote last edited by magnificentsteiner@lemmy.zip
                                      #19

                                      Oh yeah, and the posts with just a youtube link and a title that doesn't adequately describe it drive me nuts.

                                      ETA 1min later I see the perfect example https://lemmy.zip/post/58083735

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                                      • magnificentsteiner@lemmy.zipM magnificentsteiner@lemmy.zip

                                        Oh yeah, and the posts with just a youtube link and a title that doesn't adequately describe it drive me nuts.

                                        ETA 1min later I see the perfect example https://lemmy.zip/post/58083735

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                                        On the other end of the spectrum are post descriptions that copy the entire article and you’re met with a giant wall of text. It’s about curation, folks!

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                                        • P plantjam@lemmy.world

                                          I like to browse by new, but that also means most things have no comments. Which sort do you usually use?

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                                          Top 12h. It gets boring sometimes though.

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