1st Feb is #GlobalSwitchDay
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Peertube isn't really a viable alternative. There isn't a substantial enough audience for creators and there isn't really enough content for an audience. I guess if you're one of the 100 people watching transport evolved that's cool but it isn't really a meaningful alternative. I suppose it could be supplementary, but why would creators want to drive their traffic to a site that doesn't actually matter for their visibility? I imagine the same probably applies to loops.
Also, like, with video you kind of want a reliable host that you know isn't going anywhere.
The rest are okay as long as you're not super worried about how many people are seeing what you post. Lemmy and Piefed are great for content aggregation and discussion, but they seem to be the only ones that at this point actually do anything that might be helpful.
I've tried Mastodon and while it's way better than Twitter it isn't exactly providing a way to reach a substantial audience. Personal websites are probably a better bet for ease of access.
My main issue with peertube is that I find it confusing. Its not self contained in the sense on how to subscribe to channels or people. AFAIK you also need a mastodon account for it and to jump through some hoops to subscribe to a creator.
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UX/UI are only as bad as the client is. For me, Lemmy is indistinguishable from reddit (if you don't look at numbers of comments), because I use Lemmy Sync, as I used Reddit Sync before
i recommend trying out thunder, I just switched from sync.
It's foss and actively developed
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Since your Lemmy account is only 3 days old, I would recommend switching over to PieFed. It’s a much nicer experience and federates with all the same servers that Lemmy does, so you’re seeing the same posts but in a better way. You’re on lemmy.zip, and the same devs run piefed.zip.
With a little curation of your community subscriptions, you can get a very similar experience to Reddit but better.
What do you prefer about piefed? Lemmy seems perfect to me.
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What's the difference between Lemmy and piefed, and why should be choose one over the other?
You don't have to. Piefed is different software. It does have more features: custom feeds, hashtags, flairs, polls, events, keyword filtering, scheduled posts and more. Much of this is also arriving in lemmy 1.0, but the release so far is undated.
But some people dislike the UI of Piefed.
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For most other formats, everyone creates and shares: photos, posts, sharing links. For more crafted video material, there's too much of an imbalance between the number of watchers vs creators to make a new platform an easy sell. You'd need a strong creator promise like Nebula.
Yeah, agreed. The one thing the platforms you see that aren't YouTube that creators actually use have in common is financial incentive. Nebula is the best example here. Creators get a cut and have more creative freedom, so they actually use it and try to direct their audience to it for bonus content, which seems to actually work. Patreon is similar for a lot of creators, letting them put out additional content with fewer restrictions and letting them get more income from their viewers.
Some people also seem to have some success with independent platforms. If you look at like a Dropout or Viva Plus, these are both putting stuff out on YouTube and then drawing users in with subscriptions, and that seems to be a sound model.
But Peertube produces zero dollars for creators, which means they have no incentive to push users there. In fact, they're incentivized to avoid doing so because there are other platforms that will actually pay them if they can direct traffic there. Peertube lacks both the money-making side of things and the exposure side of things, so there's no real reason to use it.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see something independent like Peertube take off, but the model doesn't really work.
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Because YouTube can shoot down you account and all your videos get blocked if they want?
Every political content creator should use PeerTube at least as a backup.
Most of them have Patreon for that, which actually produces income.
What's the incentive? All they would be doing is pushing views away from platforms where having viewers actually benefits them, either through metrics or income or both.
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I don't care about some karma number, but yeah, I definitely like to see some conversations I've had, or things I've upvoted because I maybe would like to share them later in a conversation.
So yeah, I like having the record for me.
We were also talking about getting more people on the platform and you are basically showing exactly why others hate this place. My criticism is valid and something a normal person would notice. You came in and wrote a small diatribe about... Not what I was talking about.
No, I don't obsessively go over everything I've ever said. But I sure do sometimes want to revisit, rethink and repost things.
I literally use Piefed every single day and am enthusiastic about the growth of the Fediverse. If it can't even take internal criticism from regular users with a vested interest it isn't ready for outside interest.
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Okay then recommend Lemmy with PhotonUI?
Too much friction, and that's really bad UX.
And now you have to explain to people why the default UI sucks.
I tried to promote https://p.lemmy.world to people, and they tell me to get lost with that dodgy virus link. -
Link to a Photon Frontend then?
Not all instances have Photon UI, and that just adds more friction and confusion.
Now I have to explain to users why the default FE is garbage and why they should use Photon.
And when I've promoted https://p.lemmy.world in the past I get people telling me to fuck off because I'm sharing dodgy virus links. -
Is there a voyager equivalent for piefed?
Voyager works great on PieFed, it doesn't yet have all the new PieFed features, but it works great.
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What's the difference between Lemmy and piefed, and why should be choose one over the other?
To users they're both mostly the same but PieFed has more features and a much better UX, so it's the one I choose to promote.
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PipePipe has never let me down yet. In case you still need to interact with YouTube.
It started to just error out on every video. Some people suggest to revert a couple of versions. But I simply gave up. There's no anything there that I need.
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To users they're both mostly the same but PieFed has more features and a much better UX, so it's the one I choose to promote.
But how does one switch from Lemmy to Piefed?
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Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.
Should be Lemmy over piefed.
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And instance admins!
I recommend hosting yourself to see exactly what "admins" have to go through.
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It started to just error out on every video. Some people suggest to revert a couple of versions. But I simply gave up. There's no anything there that I need.
PipePipe is a fork of NewPipe, with more and better features (like built in SponsorBlock). I was watching videos on it just an hour ago.
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Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.
What in the world is piefed? Lemmy is superior to Reddit.
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Too much friction, and that's really bad UX.
And now you have to explain to people why the default UI sucks.
I tried to promote https://p.lemmy.world to people, and they tell me to get lost with that dodgy virus link.That's just fine. Don't worry yourself too much. I don't know about everyone else, but I only want the people open to making a switch here. If you're so put off by trying something new that you aren't willing to give it a chance, then I'm not going to be begging for you to join my community.
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All the proposed services/technologies would benefit the wider consumer base and the user but switching is too big an ask for many people. We need to encourage people into using "as well as" the global defaults. That will build the network effects that lower the cost of fully switching
An easier and bigger immediate impact would come from people replacing Chrome and google search with respectful alternatives, and/or replacing gmail or outlook with private services like proton or tuta.
Starve the surveillance machines a little bit.Look, I'm looking at reddit posts about niche stuff like a fiend. But when I make a post, I always go here first
I've switched, but I haven't stopped searching old reddit posts. The cache of information is just too rich to pass up.
It's all about mindset. I'm all in fediverse, despite actually using reddit sometimes. Switching doesn't mean blocking the entire website
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But how does one switch from Lemmy to Piefed?
You can register on a Piefed instance and use Lemmy's subscription export feature and Piefed's import feature to retain your subscriptions. Porting comments/posts isn't a thing.
There's work underway creating migration scripts for Lemmy databases to be imported to Piefed, but that is a tool for instance administrators only, of course.
