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1st Feb is #GlobalSwitchDay

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  • a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.clA a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.cl

    Yes

    Matrix

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    Skavau
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    #180

    Matrix just isn't up to it. It doesn't feel like Discord at all. It hasn't taken off in any meaningful way.

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    • DeceptichumD Deceptichum

      PieFed updates faster, is responsive to suggestions and user concerns, has way more features such as polls, topics (groups of communities that can be made by users, helps to browse all comms related to a topic) automated posts, it combines cross-post comments into 1 page, etc.

      And the Lemmy devs are transphobes, genocide deniers, support Russia invading Ukraine, etc. so there's an ethical component to people not supporting it through using it.

      Because I'm sure "they'll" come and rage here once they see this post I'll pre-empt it and say the dev for PieFed is not perfect, no one is, and they've got some code around minimising meme images and 4chan content based on their personal preferences, but that stuffs all optional and can be turned on or off by the instance admins.

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      Nutomic
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      And also most of the things you said are simply wrong.

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      • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

        I’ve tried to promote Lemmy on Reddit in the past, only to be met with people complaining about the really old UI and bad UX, they also complain about tankies.

        PieFed doesn’t have that bad rep, so I’ve found it easier to promote, both lead to the Fedivers so either is a win.

        If I make posts promoting Lemmy on reddit it gets a lot of criticism in the comments becose of the above reasons, so I promote PieFed instead.

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        Nutomic
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        #182

        You don't need to recommend Lemmy as a software in general. It's better to recommend a specific instance which matches the target audience.

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        • S Skavau

          Are you referring to !fediverse@lemmy.world? This wasn't posted by the mods.

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          thoro@lemmy.ml
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          #183

          This comm is often full of comments pushing lemmy alternatives, with PieFed being the new frontrunner.

          You'd think the post here would include Lemmy, which I believe is still the most active platform

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          • S Skavau

            Matrix just isn't up to it. It doesn't feel like Discord at all. It hasn't taken off in any meaningful way.

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            periodicallypedantic@lemmy.ca
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            #184

            None of those really "feel like" the things they're replacing. I don't really even think that should be the goal. They occupy the same space, though, and the infographic would look stupid if it showed all the options in some category, so they just picked a popular proprietary/centralized one, and a popular federated alternative in the same category. In this case discord is a popular chat app, and the most popular federa chat app afaict is matrix.

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            • S Skavau

              Its up to you. They are different software but both read lemmy and Piefed communities and instances.

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              texture@lemmy.world
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              #185

              ok thanks. sorry someone downvoted you

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              • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                SharkAttak
                wrote last edited by
                #186

                "But if you have a shitty attitude stay where you are"

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                • T thoro@lemmy.ml

                  It's honestly bonkers to have a community hosted on Lemmy this hostile to Lemmy as software and the developers.

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                  goferking (he/him)
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                  #187

                  Because so many keep getting told it's by tankies and stop thinking immediately after that

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                  • RoseU Rose

                    Also, to avoid doing unpaid labour for Jeff Bezos, go from Goodreads to Bookwyrm!

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                    LobsterJim
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                    #188

                    Bookwyrm is cool, it just needs more attention and interaction. It would be cool if it could expand into other forms of media (games, movies) like NeoDB, which again feels like posting into the void.

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                    • O oimate@feddit.uk

                      Lemmy doesn't truly block stuff and the devs refuse to fix that

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                      spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml
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                      #189

                      Granted I browse Lemmy via voyager on Mobile, and Alexandrite on desktop, but this has never been an issue. I find it incredibly easy to block stuff, and curate what I want to see

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                      • NutomicN Nutomic

                        Bullshit, you are lying.

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                        Deceptichum
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                        #190

                        Even your chief propagandist agrees that you're deplorable.

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                        • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                          I used Lemmy for months, mostly in the browser and my UX was absolutely horrible.

                          The default browser UI sucks.

                          I had to try many different settings and eventually through a lot of effort found the Photon UI, which is nice.

                          The vast majority of users just won't go through that effort. PieFed's default UI is quite clean and modern and much nicer to use, which is why I promote it instead

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                          Fushuan [he/him]
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                          I honestly use the Voyager web client in my desktop PC, it works pretty well.

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                          • NutomicN Nutomic

                            And also most of the things you said are simply wrong.

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                            Deceptichum
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                            Any PieFed user can confirm the features are correct.

                            I could go digging through posts to find your well documented history of it, but I'll quote your guy here because I have this on hand already and any ml user is going to trust their word.

                            Dessalines has a whole link spam dedicated to genocide denial and spreading Russian propaganda on Ukraine.

                            Or do you mean posting the previous thread on the brigading hatejerk comm?

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                            • SdWolf1902S SdWolf1902

                              Ew gross, fuck tankies. I'm really confused so both lemmy and piefed are tankie-adjacent?

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                              Nutomic
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                              No, Lemmy is fine. We may have our personal opinions on our things, but we never let them affect our work. A lot of admins and contributors also keep an eye on it. If you dont like how moderation works on a particular Lemmy instance, you can find a dozen other instances with different rules. As developers we could not even ban the clowns on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works if we wanted.

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                              • G Grail

                                Oh boy oh boy, I think I'm about to receive a fun link with more Nutomic bad takes

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                                Nutomic
                                wrote last edited by
                                #194

                                I am really curious, who is it that goes around and slanders me behind my back? Why do they care so much what a random person on the internet says? And these are just some casual comments in an obscure online forum. Does this individual not have work to do, or friends to spend time with instead of this? So feel free to send me a private message with the username who sends these links.

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                                • portabledoughnut@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP portabledoughnut@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                  I'm having troubld findinv good peertube instances, anyone have any recs?

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                                  7uwqkj@lemmy.world
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                                  #195

                                  That’s because there aren’t any, at least none that could even remotely compete with YouTube.

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                                  • spookybogmonster@lemmy.mlS spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml

                                    There's been some controversy recently about censorship hardcoded into Piefed's backend. Basically it gives people a "social credit score" based on how they post.

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                                    7uwqkj@lemmy.world
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                                    Yuck. Do you have any evidence?

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                                    • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                      Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                                      7uwqkj@lemmy.world
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                                      Please add chess.com → lichess

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                                      • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                                        I've seen the Reddit users be more receptive of PieFed over Lemmy. In a post suggesting Lemmy, the Reddit users will just comment that it looks ugly, it's confusing, devs are tankies, etc. Posts suggesting PieFed get less complaints and more signups.

                                        Also I think the instance choice is easier for PieFed compared to Lemmy. If you tell people to use Lemmy, they'll probably end up on lemmy.world which is overpopulated, or lemmy.ml...

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                                        Nutomic
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                                        Instead of recommending Lemmy in general, you should recommend a specific instance which matches the audience. For example someone posted about piefed.ca in /r/BuyCanadian. Or you can link to a different frontend like vger.app.

                                        I did make a redesign to join-lemmy.org recently so that new users can reach the registration page with a single click. I am also curious about any suggestions you have to improve the onboarding.

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                                        • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                          I've tried to promote Lemmy on Reddit in the past, only to be met with people complaining about the really old UI and bad UX, they also complain about tankies.

                                          PieFed doesn't have that bad rep, so I've found it easier to promote, both lead to the Fedivers so either is a win.

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                                          Nutomic
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                                          For different UI you can linnk people to blorp, vger.app or phtn.app. There are also a lot of mobile apps.

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