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1st Feb is #GlobalSwitchDay

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  • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

    I used Lemmy for months, mostly in the browser and my UX was absolutely horrible.

    The default browser UI sucks.

    I had to try many different settings and eventually through a lot of effort found the Photon UI, which is nice.

    The vast majority of users just won't go through that effort. PieFed's default UI is quite clean and modern and much nicer to use, which is why I promote it instead

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    Fushuan [he/him]
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    I honestly use the Voyager web client in my desktop PC, it works pretty well.

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    • NutomicN Nutomic

      And also most of the things you said are simply wrong.

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      Any PieFed user can confirm the features are correct.

      I could go digging through posts to find your well documented history of it, but I'll quote your guy here because I have this on hand already and any ml user is going to trust their word.

      Dessalines has a whole link spam dedicated to genocide denial and spreading Russian propaganda on Ukraine.

      Or do you mean posting the previous thread on the brigading hatejerk comm?

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      • SdWolf1902S SdWolf1902

        Ew gross, fuck tankies. I'm really confused so both lemmy and piefed are tankie-adjacent?

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        Nutomic
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        #193

        No, Lemmy is fine. We may have our personal opinions on our things, but we never let them affect our work. A lot of admins and contributors also keep an eye on it. If you dont like how moderation works on a particular Lemmy instance, you can find a dozen other instances with different rules. As developers we could not even ban the clowns on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works if we wanted.

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        • G Grail

          Oh boy oh boy, I think I'm about to receive a fun link with more Nutomic bad takes

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          Nutomic
          wrote last edited by
          #194

          I am really curious, who is it that goes around and slanders me behind my back? Why do they care so much what a random person on the internet says? And these are just some casual comments in an obscure online forum. Does this individual not have work to do, or friends to spend time with instead of this? So feel free to send me a private message with the username who sends these links.

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          • portabledoughnut@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP portabledoughnut@lemmy.blahaj.zone

            I'm having troubld findinv good peertube instances, anyone have any recs?

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            7uwqkj@lemmy.world
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            #195

            That’s because there aren’t any, at least none that could even remotely compete with YouTube.

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            • spookybogmonster@lemmy.mlS spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml

              There's been some controversy recently about censorship hardcoded into Piefed's backend. Basically it gives people a "social credit score" based on how they post.

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              7uwqkj@lemmy.world
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              #196

              Yuck. Do you have any evidence?

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              • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                7uwqkj@lemmy.world
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                #197

                Please add chess.com → lichess

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                • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                  I've seen the Reddit users be more receptive of PieFed over Lemmy. In a post suggesting Lemmy, the Reddit users will just comment that it looks ugly, it's confusing, devs are tankies, etc. Posts suggesting PieFed get less complaints and more signups.

                  Also I think the instance choice is easier for PieFed compared to Lemmy. If you tell people to use Lemmy, they'll probably end up on lemmy.world which is overpopulated, or lemmy.ml...

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                  Nutomic
                  wrote last edited by
                  #198

                  Instead of recommending Lemmy in general, you should recommend a specific instance which matches the audience. For example someone posted about piefed.ca in /r/BuyCanadian. Or you can link to a different frontend like vger.app.

                  I did make a redesign to join-lemmy.org recently so that new users can reach the registration page with a single click. I am also curious about any suggestions you have to improve the onboarding.

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                  • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                    I've tried to promote Lemmy on Reddit in the past, only to be met with people complaining about the really old UI and bad UX, they also complain about tankies.

                    PieFed doesn't have that bad rep, so I've found it easier to promote, both lead to the Fedivers so either is a win.

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                    Nutomic
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                    #199

                    For different UI you can linnk people to blorp, vger.app or phtn.app. There are also a lot of mobile apps.

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                    • 1984@lemmy.today1 1984@lemmy.today

                      No.

                      But mainly because content creators are on YouTube to get audience and a small profit. The technology is fine otherwise.

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                      lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world
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                      #200

                      Is PeerTube separate from the rest of the fediverse? I'm on Lemmy and get everything from what's in the OP image except the video things.

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                      • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                        I used Lemmy for months, mostly in the browser and my UX was absolutely horrible.

                        The default browser UI sucks.

                        I had to try many different settings and eventually through a lot of effort found the Photon UI, which is nice.

                        The vast majority of users just won't go through that effort. PieFed's default UI is quite clean and modern and much nicer to use, which is why I promote it instead

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                        Nutomic
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                        #201

                        In what ways does the Lemmy UI suck? I would appreciate feedback in order to improve it. For what its worth I only use the default UI on desktop and mobile, and like it a lot.

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                        • NutomicN Nutomic

                          Instead of recommending Lemmy in general, you should recommend a specific instance which matches the audience. For example someone posted about piefed.ca in /r/BuyCanadian. Or you can link to a different frontend like vger.app.

                          I did make a redesign to join-lemmy.org recently so that new users can reach the registration page with a single click. I am also curious about any suggestions you have to improve the onboarding.

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                          die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                          #202

                          join-lemmy.org looks much improved now! And yes linking directly to an instance is the way to go, I would've put URLs in this promotional image instead of just names

                          I'm not sure if I have any specific ideas at the moment. It's possible Lemmy has just reached a saturation point with Reddit where the people still on Reddit are the ones who bounced off Lemmy before, so they won't give it another chance anytime soon, but they haven't tried PieFed yet. Maybe the optimal strategy is to cycle between the recommendations to catch everyone with whatever suits them best. I think we should also try changing out the Mastodon recommendation and see if something else catches people who haven't already switched to Fediverse microblogging.

                          I think PieFed's idea of asking new users what they want/don't want to see is a good idea.

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                          • CoelacanthC Coelacanth

                            I agree, and I think it's a shame it has gotten to this point, but I understand his viewpoint completely and have seen the interactions myself. At this point it's simply more efficient to promote Piefed on Reddit instead of Lemmy, because you want the absolute least amount of friction for potential new users. Literally any single minor inconvenience/negative thing will cause people to not even consider trying it out. Lemmy has unfortunately already accumulated a reputation, and if you promote it you are very likely to run into comments about tankies which is typically enough to scare potential new users away.

                            At the end of the day it shouldn't matter to us which software people use, as long as we get more new users into the ecosystem.

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                            Nutomic
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                            #203

                            People will always find some excuse to do nothing and stay on Reddit. Whether its Lemmy or Piefed you will only ever get a few people to switch.

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                            • 7 7uwqkj@lemmy.world

                              Yuck. Do you have any evidence?

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                              spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml
                              wrote last edited by
                              #204

                              Here's the writeup about it, going around

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                              • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                                robocall@lemmy.world
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                                #205

                                Every day is a good day to switch

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                                • a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.clA a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.cl

                                  Deb's a tankie with the most bullshit oppinions ever seen on earth.

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                                  chill_dan@lemmy.world
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                                  Who is deb?

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                                  • mintyfresh@lemmy.worldM mintyfresh@lemmy.world

                                    I've been using lemmy.world with the boost app. Should I look into piefed? Am I missing anything? I mean I'm happy with what I got, but is the grass any greener?

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                                    chill_dan@lemmy.world
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                                    #207

                                    It has a lot of cool features, I'm almost tempted to switch but am waiting on the app I use to finish supporting it first.

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                                    • spookybogmonster@lemmy.mlS spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml

                                      Here's the writeup about it, going around

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                                      Matt
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                                      #208

                                      So it basically is a worse version of Reddit's karma.

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                                      • texture@lemmy.worldT texture@lemmy.world

                                        can anyone eli5 what the difference is from piefed to lemmy? i have a lemmy account, do i have a use for a piefed accnt too?

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                                        chill_dan@lemmy.world
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                                        #209

                                        PieFed has flair and topics, which make it easier to find content you like.

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                                        • D darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works

                                          Hey, hey you.

                                          Get some.

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                                          chill_dan@lemmy.world
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                                          #210

                                          Much better!

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