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  • NutomicN Nutomic

    Instead of recommending Lemmy in general, you should recommend a specific instance which matches the audience. For example someone posted about piefed.ca in /r/BuyCanadian. Or you can link to a different frontend like vger.app.

    I did make a redesign to join-lemmy.org recently so that new users can reach the registration page with a single click. I am also curious about any suggestions you have to improve the onboarding.

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    #225

    That person was me.

    I've promoted Lemmy in the past only to be met with comments complaining about the 'dogshit UX' and tankeis.

    So I switched to promoting PieFed instead, and have had no such complaints.

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    • A anothermember@feddit.uk

      I used Lemmy for months, mostly in the browser and my UX was absolutely horrible.

      The default browser UI sucks.

      How long ago? It was a bit flaky a couple of years ago but for me now it's perfect - like Reddit UI before it enshittified.

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      #226

      I'm sorry but the default Lemmy UI is objectively bad, it breaks so many UX principles.

      Photon is good, but go to Lemmy.world and it looks like a website built in the early 90's

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      • A angrycommiekender@lemmy.world

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        #227

        Fair point,

        I omitted Facebook in my image because fuck that kind of social media (my opinion)

        I picked PieFed over Lemmy because UX is everything and currently PieFed has much better UX.

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        • a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.clA a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.cl

          Deb's a tankie with the most bullshit oppinions ever seen on earth.

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          Nutomic
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          #228

          Not true.

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          • texture@lemmy.worldT texture@lemmy.world

            can anyone eli5 what the difference is from piefed to lemmy? i have a lemmy account, do i have a use for a piefed accnt too?

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            #229

            To me.
            It's the same thing but PieFed has better UX and more featues.

            Which one you pick is for the most part irrelevant.

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            • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

              To me.
              It's the same thing but PieFed has better UX and more featues.

              Which one you pick is for the most part irrelevant.

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              texture@lemmy.world
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              thanks for the input. im gonna chekc out piefed

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              • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                That person was me.

                I've promoted Lemmy in the past only to be met with comments complaining about the 'dogshit UX' and tankeis.

                So I switched to promoting PieFed instead, and have had no such complaints.

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                #231

                And so you decided to spread that misinformation further, instead of simply replying that it is wrong? I'm also very curious in what ways you consider Piefed's UI better than Lemmy.

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                • NutomicN Nutomic

                  In what ways does the Lemmy UI suck? I would appreciate feedback in order to improve it. For what its worth I only use the default UI on desktop and mobile, and like it a lot.

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                  #232

                  Any actions you need to take that could have been avoided = bad UX.

                  Any time you need to think and not immediately know what to do next = bad UX.

                  Sadly we're in a time where users expect their hand to be held the whole time and where they expect zero effort to be put in and everything to just work.

                  For me the biggest issue with default Lemmy is, why do I have to click on a image post to view the image, when it could just have defaulted to a bigger size?

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                  • NutomicN Nutomic

                    And so you decided to spread that misinformation further, instead of simply replying that it is wrong? I'm also very curious in what ways you consider Piefed's UI better than Lemmy.

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                    #233

                    Good UX is all about removing friction and making users have to click less and think less.

                    Users these days are expect their hands to be held and things to just work, that sadly is just the reality.

                    Let me start off with saying, I started on Lemmy and even donated to Lemmy, PieFed can only grow because it's standing on the shoulders of giants (lemmy)

                    My alt is AnonomousWolf, you can look it up, since I joined I complained about bat UX, but people told me to GTFO.
                    PieFed fixes many of those issues I complained about.

                    Let me do a quick test and walk you through my thought possesses and UX.
                    I'll make 2 comments in this post, one for lemmy.ml one for piefed.social

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                    • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                      Good UX is all about removing friction and making users have to click less and think less.

                      Users these days are expect their hands to be held and things to just work, that sadly is just the reality.

                      Let me start off with saying, I started on Lemmy and even donated to Lemmy, PieFed can only grow because it's standing on the shoulders of giants (lemmy)

                      My alt is AnonomousWolf, you can look it up, since I joined I complained about bat UX, but people told me to GTFO.
                      PieFed fixes many of those issues I complained about.

                      Let me do a quick test and walk you through my thought possesses and UX.
                      I'll make 2 comments in this post, one for lemmy.ml one for piefed.social

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                      #234

                      -- open https://lemmy.ml
                      -- met with a list of posts, most images too small for me to see or read.
                      -- click on first post so that I can see the image - https://lemmy.ml/post/42503928
                      -- taken to a page where I still can't see the image I clicked to see
                      -- Click on the image, now I can see it.

                      -- See some comments
                      -- now I need to click back to continue

                      -- see another interesting post, image to small, can't see so I have to click -- https://lemmy.ml/post/42501566
                      -- Still can't see image so I click on the image
                      -- now I'm taken to https://mecha.so/comet#overview
                      -- WTF, why am I on a different site? Why am I here,where are the comments
                      -- Realisze I can't distinguish between Image posts and Links to a different site.
                      -- Why is this so confusing to browse?

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                      • mesaM mesa

                        Create a PR and fix it.

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                        ceebee_eh@lemmy.world
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                        Lol, why? I don't use Piefed and besides, I work on my own open source project.

                        But seriously, why would I contribute to a project I don't use and have no association with?

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                        • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                          Good UX is all about removing friction and making users have to click less and think less.

                          Users these days are expect their hands to be held and things to just work, that sadly is just the reality.

                          Let me start off with saying, I started on Lemmy and even donated to Lemmy, PieFed can only grow because it's standing on the shoulders of giants (lemmy)

                          My alt is AnonomousWolf, you can look it up, since I joined I complained about bat UX, but people told me to GTFO.
                          PieFed fixes many of those issues I complained about.

                          Let me do a quick test and walk you through my thought possesses and UX.
                          I'll make 2 comments in this post, one for lemmy.ml one for piefed.social

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                          #236

                          Review of the two experiences:

                          With PieFed I can just keep scrolling without needing to click.
                          Things just work and are where I expect them to be (based on pas UX experiences (reddit))
                          I can see way more content without ever getting confused or needing to click or make decisions, making me stay curious and engaged.
                          Where as with Lemmy I very quickly got frustrated and confused, making me want to abandon ship and do something else, and I'm way way way more resilient than the vast majority of users

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                          • T thoro@lemmy.ml

                            This comm is often full of comments pushing lemmy alternatives, with PieFed being the new frontrunner.

                            You'd think the post here would include Lemmy, which I believe is still the most active platform

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                            planish@sh.itjust.works
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                            But it's the same platform! They all interoperate!

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                            • portabledoughnut@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP portabledoughnut@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                              I'm having troubld findinv good peertube instances, anyone have any recs?

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                              rumba@lemmy.zip
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                              https://tilvids.com/ isn't horrible, but you have to go in with an open mind

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                              • spookybogmonster@lemmy.mlS spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml

                                Here's the writeup about it, going around

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                                c0dezer0@programming.dev
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                                Some of the code snippets are cringe. Ew..

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                                • R rumba@lemmy.zip

                                  https://tilvids.com/ isn't horrible, but you have to go in with an open mind

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                                  portabledoughnut@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                  I'll try it out!

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                                  • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                    Any actions you need to take that could have been avoided = bad UX.

                                    Any time you need to think and not immediately know what to do next = bad UX.

                                    Sadly we're in a time where users expect their hand to be held the whole time and where they expect zero effort to be put in and everything to just work.

                                    For me the biggest issue with default Lemmy is, why do I have to click on a image post to view the image, when it could just have defaulted to a bigger size?

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                                    occasionallyferalya@lemmy.ml
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                                    I don’t understand your problem. Can’t you just tap the image to see it larger? I don’t have to click an image post like you claim to.

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                                    • spookybogmonster@lemmy.mlS spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml

                                      Essentially, yes. And maybe that's part of why people jumping from reddit like it so much, but personally, I don't think the things like this that Piefied is doing are good for the fediverse ecosystem

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                                      limelight79@lemmy.world
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                                      I can understand where the reputation comes from - spammers and trolls will do everything they can to shit all over everything. Maybe this isn't the best way to address that problem, but I definitely understand the desire.

                                      I run a forum for a very specific model of RV, and fucking spammers came in so often that I shut off registration and register everyone manually after they send me an email. It raises the bar just enough. Every now and then someone will whine about it, and I'm like, I hear you but this is much easier than cleaning the mess the spammers always leave.

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                                      • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                        Any actions you need to take that could have been avoided = bad UX.

                                        Any time you need to think and not immediately know what to do next = bad UX.

                                        Sadly we're in a time where users expect their hand to be held the whole time and where they expect zero effort to be put in and everything to just work.

                                        For me the biggest issue with default Lemmy is, why do I have to click on a image post to view the image, when it could just have defaulted to a bigger size?

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                                        techlich@lemmy.world
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                                        But I don't want a bunch of huge images in my face. Isn't that what pixelfed and Instagramy things are for? I only want to click on the things I'm interested in, not be shown an ugly frustrating stream of giant, semi-traumatic political pictures one after the other. Thumbnails exist for a reason and claiming they're bad UX is incorrect, it's the industry standard design pattern for any control that allows a user to browse quickly through multiple images or to provide an impression to a user before they decide whether or not to open the full content.

                                        Lemmie/piefed is more about text and conversations so titles should always be the largest clearest part so you can read them quickly to know whether you want to engage with the post or not. Otherwise, how is it different from pixelfed? Likes vs upvotes is not a big difference.

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                                        • T toofpic

                                          UX/UI are only as bad as the client is. For me, Lemmy is indistinguishable from reddit (if you don't look at numbers of comments), because I use Lemmy Sync, as I used Reddit Sync before

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                                          kalothar@lemmy.ca
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                                          #244

                                          I’m checking in with voyager here, and I came from the reddit Apollo app and I feel the same.

                                          It was practically seamless, though I’ve considered switching to try out other clients.

                                          Tried Piefed and find it clunky with my current level of familiarity

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