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  • G grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    It's like Lemmy, but it can interact with Mastodon and has some other features that Lemmy lacks. It's pretty cool, only reason I don't use more often it is I'm happy on my instance otherwise I would swap in an instant.

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    prodigalfrog@slrpnk.net
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    #281

    The Dbzer0 folk also run a piefed instance, Anarchist.nexus, if you'd prefer to be using piefed with everything else the same.

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    • YTG123Y YTG123

      And obviously the Piefed codebase is so politically and ethically agreeable… /s

      No one likes the lemmy lead devs or their stances. But, to my knowledge, they just keep doing their own thing over at .ml and never channel it into their actual codebase.

      When I first started here, I was on Kbin, and switched to lemmy because it was so much better. I considered switching to Piefed exactly because of these reasons you mentioned (I've already switched lemmy instances, comment history is not an issue for me), but when I looked into it there were so many just frankly aggravating things about the way it works and filters stuff by default (not to mention being written in Python, but that's completely tangential) that I couldn't do it.

      Sure, lemmy developers have backwards principles. But at least their software doesn't. I completely get why someone would use Piefed instead, especially if they're trans or of some other demographic directly targeted by the lemmy developers, but I wouldn't do it myself (unless it gets better, of course).

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      warl0k3@lemmy.world
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      #282

      It's a testament to (if nothing else) the ability of the piefed devs to behave like adults that I know nothing about them personally. Nu/Des are horrible people, both politically and interpersonally, but that's the beauty of FOSS: Those of us comfortable with separating the software from the creators get to stick with the software we prefer over one that lacks features or broad support (i.e. all the piefed apps I've tried have been pretty rough). Same energy as why people still use windows instead of linux.

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      • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

        -- open https://lemmy.ml
        -- met with a list of posts, most images too small for me to see or read.
        -- click on first post so that I can see the image - https://lemmy.ml/post/42503928
        -- taken to a page where I still can't see the image I clicked to see
        -- Click on the image, now I can see it.

        -- See some comments
        -- now I need to click back to continue

        -- see another interesting post, image to small, can't see so I have to click -- https://lemmy.ml/post/42501566
        -- Still can't see image so I click on the image
        -- now I'm taken to https://mecha.so/comet#overview
        -- WTF, why am I on a different site? Why am I here,where are the comments
        -- Realisze I can't distinguish between Image posts and Links to a different site.
        -- Why is this so confusing to browse?

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        #283

        Sounds like you are specifically looking for a client focused on image browsing. In that case I would suggest linking to vger.app, phtn.app or blorp which I linked in another comment. Lemmy 1.0 will also have a card view which admins can set as default, where images are already expanded.

        see another interesting post, image to small, can’t see so I have to click – https://lemmy.ml/post/42501566

        This is only the link preview (indicated by the arrow icon), not an image post. Is the icon too small?

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        • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

          Review of the two experiences:

          With PieFed I can just keep scrolling without needing to click.
          Things just work and are where I expect them to be (based on pas UX experiences (reddit))
          I can see way more content without ever getting confused or needing to click or make decisions, making me stay curious and engaged.
          Where as with Lemmy I very quickly got frustrated and confused, making me want to abandon ship and do something else, and I'm way way way more resilient than the vast majority of users

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          Nutomic
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          Not everyone likes infinite scroll, but some apps such as vger.app offer it.

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          • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

            join-lemmy.org looks much improved now! And yes linking directly to an instance is the way to go, I would've put URLs in this promotional image instead of just names

            I'm not sure if I have any specific ideas at the moment. It's possible Lemmy has just reached a saturation point with Reddit where the people still on Reddit are the ones who bounced off Lemmy before, so they won't give it another chance anytime soon, but they haven't tried PieFed yet. Maybe the optimal strategy is to cycle between the recommendations to catch everyone with whatever suits them best. I think we should also try changing out the Mastodon recommendation and see if something else catches people who haven't already switched to Fediverse microblogging.

            I think PieFed's idea of asking new users what they want/don't want to see is a good idea.

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            I made a couple of "Help Design Lemmy" posts in !lemmy@lemmy.ml recently to get feedback and ideas, which was very helpful. I will continue to make such posts to improve join-lemmy.org, and also Lemmy itself.

            Had a look at the Piefed signup now, choosing categories like that is a good idea. But the question is how these categories get curated. We have something similar with the instance topics on join-lemmy.org but no one is really helping to maintain them. So for community categories it would probably similar. In 1.0 we will have some improvements for discovery, like multi-communities and a "suggested communities" collection which can be set by local admins.

            For the Mastodon recommendation there isnt any good alternative software that I can see. So its probably best to recommend a single Mastodon instance, depending on the target audience.

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            • Dirty AnComD Dirty AnCom

              Lol, posting Piefed as an alternative to reddit to Lemmy...

              Also, PeerTube is super obtuse to get an account and has almost no reach. You almost have to personally know someone who has a server or host your own. There's a reason why video hosting has gotten so corporatized: it's expensive. That said, almost "no one" used Mastodon for nearly a decade and it's finally starting to take off, so maybe it just needs another decade or two.

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              • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                sahin@lemmy.world
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                #287

                Lets make February a switch month. It is impossible to switch in one day

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                • fizz@lemmy.nzF fizz@lemmy.nz

                  What's a good peertube instance that federates with a lot? I tried tldvids but its got like 2 regular uploaders and i cant find most channels I search for.

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                  sahin@lemmy.world
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                  #288

                  You can upload yourself so that others can benefit.

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                  • khánhK khánh

                    Loops is mid. The community is pretty inactive, and the iOS build is quite buggy and lacking.

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                    helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz
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                    There's an organized effort by somebody to disparage Dan Supernault. I would take anything negative you've heard about him, or Loops or Pixelfed with a big grain of salt. They even have a Discord channel where the plot ways to sew poison about him. It's nuts !!!

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                    • T͏i͏d͏b͏i͏T͏T T͏i͏d͏b͏i͏T͏

                      Really? Huh, I have a decent amount of communities blocked and I've never seen a single post from anyone of them after implementing the block

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                      rhombus
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                      I’m assuming they mean it isn’t a two way block. Blocked users can still interact with your posts/comments, you just can’t see them. I personally think that should be how it works, but I’ve seen a lot of arguments for the Reddit-style blocking where they can’t interact with you anymore.

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                      • T thoro@lemmy.ml

                        I understand, but most of us are here from the efforts of all those who built Lemmy and it was deliberately left off here as an alternative

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                        planish@sh.itjust.works
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                        #291

                        Isn't that because people are canceling it for some reason? I haven't kept up with it enough to form an opinion, but I understand a lot of people want to ditch the project over something they don't like about the dev(s).

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                        • G grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          The user is from .ml, it's a bad-faith post imo.

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                          thoro@lemmy.ml
                          wrote last edited by thoro@lemmy.ml
                          #292

                          The user has been on this platform since 2020, long before .world existed and .dbzer0 was a twinkle in dbzer0's eye. Yes, the user chooses to stay on the instance that gets updated first and stays federated with all of .world, PieFed, and also the lifeboat chapo community that did and has continued to produce the funniest leftist content on the platform.

                          I've been in this comm for years. It's the number one organizing spot for anti-lemmy developers to push their alternatives. There was a Java one before PieFed took off. And when you look under the surface, the reasons these are developed are pretty much always because anti-communism.

                          You see it's actually people like y'all that scream "witch" at users, accuse them of interacting with bad faith, and spread FUD in this platform.

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                          • G grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                            People on Lemmy don't need to be told about Lemmy though?

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                            thoro@lemmy.ml
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                            People on Lemmy don't really need to be told about most of these. What's your point? You and I both know this image was made for people outside Lemmy. In fact, it was updated to remove Lemmy

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                            • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                              Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                              kilogex@lemmy.world
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                              Really wish Loops had an Android app.

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                              • S Spice Hoarder

                                Like a twitch alternative?

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                                cavok@lemmy.world
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                                #295

                                You can stream on peertube. Never tried it though.

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                                • P planish@sh.itjust.works

                                  Isn't that because people are canceling it for some reason? I haven't kept up with it enough to form an opinion, but I understand a lot of people want to ditch the project over something they don't like about the dev(s).

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                                  thoro@lemmy.ml
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                                  The devs are Marxist-Leninists. They administrate the .ml instance with that in mind, and they will often ban or strictly moderate low effort anti-China content like depicting Xi as Winnie the Pooh (they see this as racist because yellow bear) and spam posts about Tienanmen Square. I've seen people claim they are pro-Russia, but most of what I've seen would fall under anti-NATO opinions than pro-Russia. I have never gotten the impression that Putin is popular in .ml, hexbear, or lemmygrad.

                                  But they really just stick to their instance and don't push their politics on the software's development.

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                                  • I iunnrais@lemmy.world

                                    Demonstrably true. Try saying anything contrary to a tankie talking point on .ml and see how long before you get banned. May I suggest “Russia was wrong for invading Ukraine” for starters, or “China committed unjustifiable atrocities against peaceful protestors”.

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                                    thoro@lemmy.ml
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                                    #297

                                    Russia was wrong for invading Ukraine.

                                    In fact, Russia is an expansionist state with rampant nationalism and homophobia and led by an obvious fascist. I support the political autonomy of Ukrainians.

                                    Catch me in the modlogs.

                                    Now, I believe all of that, but I can also believe that there are geopolitical forces making the situation more nuanced and complex

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                                    • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                      Sure but PieFed doesn't seem to have a tankie problem. They're blocked from what I've seen.

                                      Even if that wasn't the case, PieFed doesn't have a reputation for having a tankie problem.

                                      The bottom line is when I promote PieFed I don't get people on reddit telling me the UI sucked and that it's flooded with pro-russia propaganda.

                                      So I find it more efficient to promote PieFed

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                                      pimento64@sopuli.xyz
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                                      PieFed literally uses a social credit score system and it gets lowered if you post content the Dev doesn't like. It's shit. And it's ugly, people who want a low density enshittified web app interface should be actively filtered out.

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                                      • B BruisedMoose

                                        I am unreasonably angry about the stretched icons.

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                                        tonytonychopper@mander.xyz
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                                        Some icons are stretched and some aren't. Double infuriating

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                                        • A anothermember@feddit.uk

                                          If it looks like anything of the past then it looks like the web from 10-15 years ago pre-mass-enshittification, maybe people have forgotten what non user hostile websites look like.

                                          Photon has infinite scrolling, which is horrible.

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                                          Xylight‮
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                                          Infinite scrolling is optional and also a feature the majority of users (not hyper specific tech nerds) want. If we are to have any hope of bringing the average social media user onto these platforms, we have to design it for them. Most of the addictiveness comes from the algorithm (lemmy lacks a personalized one), not necessarily the infinite scrolling itself

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