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  • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

    Good UX is all about removing friction and making users have to click less and think less.

    Users these days are expect their hands to be held and things to just work, that sadly is just the reality.

    Let me start off with saying, I started on Lemmy and even donated to Lemmy, PieFed can only grow because it's standing on the shoulders of giants (lemmy)

    My alt is AnonomousWolf, you can look it up, since I joined I complained about bat UX, but people told me to GTFO.
    PieFed fixes many of those issues I complained about.

    Let me do a quick test and walk you through my thought possesses and UX.
    I'll make 2 comments in this post, one for lemmy.ml one for piefed.social

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    Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
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    Review of the two experiences:

    With PieFed I can just keep scrolling without needing to click.
    Things just work and are where I expect them to be (based on pas UX experiences (reddit))
    I can see way more content without ever getting confused or needing to click or make decisions, making me stay curious and engaged.
    Where as with Lemmy I very quickly got frustrated and confused, making me want to abandon ship and do something else, and I'm way way way more resilient than the vast majority of users

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    • T thoro@lemmy.ml

      This comm is often full of comments pushing lemmy alternatives, with PieFed being the new frontrunner.

      You'd think the post here would include Lemmy, which I believe is still the most active platform

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      planish@sh.itjust.works
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      But it's the same platform! They all interoperate!

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      • portabledoughnut@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP portabledoughnut@lemmy.blahaj.zone

        I'm having troubld findinv good peertube instances, anyone have any recs?

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        rumba@lemmy.zip
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        https://tilvids.com/ isn't horrible, but you have to go in with an open mind

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        • spookybogmonster@lemmy.mlS spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml

          Here's the writeup about it, going around

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          c0dezer0@programming.dev
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          Some of the code snippets are cringe. Ew..

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          • R rumba@lemmy.zip

            https://tilvids.com/ isn't horrible, but you have to go in with an open mind

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            portabledoughnut@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            I'll try it out!

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            • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

              Any actions you need to take that could have been avoided = bad UX.

              Any time you need to think and not immediately know what to do next = bad UX.

              Sadly we're in a time where users expect their hand to be held the whole time and where they expect zero effort to be put in and everything to just work.

              For me the biggest issue with default Lemmy is, why do I have to click on a image post to view the image, when it could just have defaulted to a bigger size?

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              occasionallyferalya@lemmy.ml
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              I don’t understand your problem. Can’t you just tap the image to see it larger? I don’t have to click an image post like you claim to.

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              • spookybogmonster@lemmy.mlS spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml

                Essentially, yes. And maybe that's part of why people jumping from reddit like it so much, but personally, I don't think the things like this that Piefied is doing are good for the fediverse ecosystem

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                limelight79@lemmy.world
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                I can understand where the reputation comes from - spammers and trolls will do everything they can to shit all over everything. Maybe this isn't the best way to address that problem, but I definitely understand the desire.

                I run a forum for a very specific model of RV, and fucking spammers came in so often that I shut off registration and register everyone manually after they send me an email. It raises the bar just enough. Every now and then someone will whine about it, and I'm like, I hear you but this is much easier than cleaning the mess the spammers always leave.

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                • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                  Any actions you need to take that could have been avoided = bad UX.

                  Any time you need to think and not immediately know what to do next = bad UX.

                  Sadly we're in a time where users expect their hand to be held the whole time and where they expect zero effort to be put in and everything to just work.

                  For me the biggest issue with default Lemmy is, why do I have to click on a image post to view the image, when it could just have defaulted to a bigger size?

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                  techlich@lemmy.world
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                  But I don't want a bunch of huge images in my face. Isn't that what pixelfed and Instagramy things are for? I only want to click on the things I'm interested in, not be shown an ugly frustrating stream of giant, semi-traumatic political pictures one after the other. Thumbnails exist for a reason and claiming they're bad UX is incorrect, it's the industry standard design pattern for any control that allows a user to browse quickly through multiple images or to provide an impression to a user before they decide whether or not to open the full content.

                  Lemmie/piefed is more about text and conversations so titles should always be the largest clearest part so you can read them quickly to know whether you want to engage with the post or not. Otherwise, how is it different from pixelfed? Likes vs upvotes is not a big difference.

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                  • T toofpic

                    UX/UI are only as bad as the client is. For me, Lemmy is indistinguishable from reddit (if you don't look at numbers of comments), because I use Lemmy Sync, as I used Reddit Sync before

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                    kalothar@lemmy.ca
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                    I’m checking in with voyager here, and I came from the reddit Apollo app and I feel the same.

                    It was practically seamless, though I’ve considered switching to try out other clients.

                    Tried Piefed and find it clunky with my current level of familiarity

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                    • spookybogmonster@lemmy.mlS spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml

                      Here's the writeup about it, going around

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                      nile_istic@lemmy.world
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                      Lmao that "AI filter" would destroy me. Let me have my goddamn em dashes goddamn it

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                      • shatur@lemmy.mlS shatur@lemmy.ml

                        It's a shame to see that people think of Lemmy creators as some sort of villains.

                        I created my account on .ml before the Reddit blackout, but there wasn't much content there, so I didn't use it much. I properly started using it after the "Reddit blackout," and that's when I learned about the so-called "tankie problem." I've met people with weird opinions, but the developers and Marxists in general aren't bad people. People just usually make a strawmen to argue against.

                        Anyway, none of their opinions are reflected in the software. Lemmy is done in a truly democratic and user-oriented way, and I respect them for it.

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                        greddan@feddit.org
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                        Those guys aren't Marxists, they're mentally unstable Americans with a fetish authoritarianism.

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                        • O occasionallyferalya@lemmy.ml

                          I don’t understand your problem. Can’t you just tap the image to see it larger? I don’t have to click an image post like you claim to.

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                          goferking (he/him)
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                          They seem to want new reddit ui and not understand most hate that ui/ux

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                          • L limelight79@lemmy.world

                            I can understand where the reputation comes from - spammers and trolls will do everything they can to shit all over everything. Maybe this isn't the best way to address that problem, but I definitely understand the desire.

                            I run a forum for a very specific model of RV, and fucking spammers came in so often that I shut off registration and register everyone manually after they send me an email. It raises the bar just enough. Every now and then someone will whine about it, and I'm like, I hear you but this is much easier than cleaning the mess the spammers always leave.

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                            spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml
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                            props to you for running such a niche forum! That kind of thing is rare online nowadays

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                            • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                              Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                              • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                                Wtf is piefed? I mean, I'm searching for it now, I've just never heard of it.

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                                • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                  Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                                  bullerfar@lemmy.world
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                                  Maybe I am just noob at using it. But calling pixelfed a substitution to instagram, is maybe just a little reach..
                                  Pixelfed I found buggy, slow and dead community wise?
                                  Anyone to prove me wrong?

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                                  • G greddan@feddit.org

                                    Those guys aren't Marxists, they're mentally unstable Americans with a fetish authoritarianism.

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                                    shatur@lemmy.ml
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                                    #253

                                    The Lemmy devs? I'd suggest to read what they actually write. They are good guys.

                                    I also don't think it matters. For example, I don't really like the behavior of the Duckstation dev. It's a PS1 emulator. But I don't have to agree with him in order to use it.

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                                    • G goferking (he/him)

                                      They seem to want new reddit ui and not understand most hate that ui/ux

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                                      occasionallyferalya@lemmy.ml
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                                      Like a card style interface?
                                      Edit: to clarify, I understand that, but I also don’t get this specific complaint because it doesn’t seem to be true unless I’m misunderstanding it

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                                      • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                        Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                                        DylanMc6 [any, any]
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                                        What about streaming?

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                                        • O occasionallyferalya@lemmy.ml

                                          Like a card style interface?
                                          Edit: to clarify, I understand that, but I also don’t get this specific complaint because it doesn’t seem to be true unless I’m misunderstanding it

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                                          goferking (he/him)
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                                          Piefeds default is images and text are bigger, like a card style while lemmys default is like old reddit and compact.

                                          They've got their complaints in multiple comments in this thread but it basically boils down to wanting reddit but not being on reddit. Which also gets to a lot of other complaints about people moving because it's different than current reddit

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