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  • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

    Review of the two experiences:

    With PieFed I can just keep scrolling without needing to click.
    Things just work and are where I expect them to be (based on pas UX experiences (reddit))
    I can see way more content without ever getting confused or needing to click or make decisions, making me stay curious and engaged.
    Where as with Lemmy I very quickly got frustrated and confused, making me want to abandon ship and do something else, and I'm way way way more resilient than the vast majority of users

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    Nutomic
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    Not everyone likes infinite scroll, but some apps such as vger.app offer it.

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    • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

      join-lemmy.org looks much improved now! And yes linking directly to an instance is the way to go, I would've put URLs in this promotional image instead of just names

      I'm not sure if I have any specific ideas at the moment. It's possible Lemmy has just reached a saturation point with Reddit where the people still on Reddit are the ones who bounced off Lemmy before, so they won't give it another chance anytime soon, but they haven't tried PieFed yet. Maybe the optimal strategy is to cycle between the recommendations to catch everyone with whatever suits them best. I think we should also try changing out the Mastodon recommendation and see if something else catches people who haven't already switched to Fediverse microblogging.

      I think PieFed's idea of asking new users what they want/don't want to see is a good idea.

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      I made a couple of "Help Design Lemmy" posts in !lemmy@lemmy.ml recently to get feedback and ideas, which was very helpful. I will continue to make such posts to improve join-lemmy.org, and also Lemmy itself.

      Had a look at the Piefed signup now, choosing categories like that is a good idea. But the question is how these categories get curated. We have something similar with the instance topics on join-lemmy.org but no one is really helping to maintain them. So for community categories it would probably similar. In 1.0 we will have some improvements for discovery, like multi-communities and a "suggested communities" collection which can be set by local admins.

      For the Mastodon recommendation there isnt any good alternative software that I can see. So its probably best to recommend a single Mastodon instance, depending on the target audience.

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      • Dirty AnComD Dirty AnCom

        Lol, posting Piefed as an alternative to reddit to Lemmy...

        Also, PeerTube is super obtuse to get an account and has almost no reach. You almost have to personally know someone who has a server or host your own. There's a reason why video hosting has gotten so corporatized: it's expensive. That said, almost "no one" used Mastodon for nearly a decade and it's finally starting to take off, so maybe it just needs another decade or two.

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        hupf@feddit.org
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        • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

          Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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          sahin@lemmy.world
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          Lets make February a switch month. It is impossible to switch in one day

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          • fizz@lemmy.nzF fizz@lemmy.nz

            What's a good peertube instance that federates with a lot? I tried tldvids but its got like 2 regular uploaders and i cant find most channels I search for.

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            sahin@lemmy.world
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            #288

            You can upload yourself so that others can benefit.

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            • khánhK khánh

              Loops is mid. The community is pretty inactive, and the iOS build is quite buggy and lacking.

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              helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz
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              There's an organized effort by somebody to disparage Dan Supernault. I would take anything negative you've heard about him, or Loops or Pixelfed with a big grain of salt. They even have a Discord channel where the plot ways to sew poison about him. It's nuts !!!

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              • T͏i͏d͏b͏i͏T͏T T͏i͏d͏b͏i͏T͏

                Really? Huh, I have a decent amount of communities blocked and I've never seen a single post from anyone of them after implementing the block

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                rhombus
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                I’m assuming they mean it isn’t a two way block. Blocked users can still interact with your posts/comments, you just can’t see them. I personally think that should be how it works, but I’ve seen a lot of arguments for the Reddit-style blocking where they can’t interact with you anymore.

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                • T thoro@lemmy.ml

                  I understand, but most of us are here from the efforts of all those who built Lemmy and it was deliberately left off here as an alternative

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                  planish@sh.itjust.works
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                  Isn't that because people are canceling it for some reason? I haven't kept up with it enough to form an opinion, but I understand a lot of people want to ditch the project over something they don't like about the dev(s).

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                  • G grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                    The user is from .ml, it's a bad-faith post imo.

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                    thoro@lemmy.ml
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                    #292

                    The user has been on this platform since 2020, long before .world existed and .dbzer0 was a twinkle in dbzer0's eye. Yes, the user chooses to stay on the instance that gets updated first and stays federated with all of .world, PieFed, and also the lifeboat chapo community that did and has continued to produce the funniest leftist content on the platform.

                    I've been in this comm for years. It's the number one organizing spot for anti-lemmy developers to push their alternatives. There was a Java one before PieFed took off. And when you look under the surface, the reasons these are developed are pretty much always because anti-communism.

                    You see it's actually people like y'all that scream "witch" at users, accuse them of interacting with bad faith, and spread FUD in this platform.

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                    • G grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      People on Lemmy don't need to be told about Lemmy though?

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                      thoro@lemmy.ml
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                      #293

                      People on Lemmy don't really need to be told about most of these. What's your point? You and I both know this image was made for people outside Lemmy. In fact, it was updated to remove Lemmy

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                      • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                        Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                        kilogex@lemmy.world
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                        Really wish Loops had an Android app.

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                        • S Spice Hoarder

                          Like a twitch alternative?

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                          cavok@lemmy.world
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                          You can stream on peertube. Never tried it though.

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                          • P planish@sh.itjust.works

                            Isn't that because people are canceling it for some reason? I haven't kept up with it enough to form an opinion, but I understand a lot of people want to ditch the project over something they don't like about the dev(s).

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                            thoro@lemmy.ml
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                            The devs are Marxist-Leninists. They administrate the .ml instance with that in mind, and they will often ban or strictly moderate low effort anti-China content like depicting Xi as Winnie the Pooh (they see this as racist because yellow bear) and spam posts about Tienanmen Square. I've seen people claim they are pro-Russia, but most of what I've seen would fall under anti-NATO opinions than pro-Russia. I have never gotten the impression that Putin is popular in .ml, hexbear, or lemmygrad.

                            But they really just stick to their instance and don't push their politics on the software's development.

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                            • I iunnrais@lemmy.world

                              Demonstrably true. Try saying anything contrary to a tankie talking point on .ml and see how long before you get banned. May I suggest “Russia was wrong for invading Ukraine” for starters, or “China committed unjustifiable atrocities against peaceful protestors”.

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                              thoro@lemmy.ml
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                              #297

                              Russia was wrong for invading Ukraine.

                              In fact, Russia is an expansionist state with rampant nationalism and homophobia and led by an obvious fascist. I support the political autonomy of Ukrainians.

                              Catch me in the modlogs.

                              Now, I believe all of that, but I can also believe that there are geopolitical forces making the situation more nuanced and complex

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                              • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                Sure but PieFed doesn't seem to have a tankie problem. They're blocked from what I've seen.

                                Even if that wasn't the case, PieFed doesn't have a reputation for having a tankie problem.

                                The bottom line is when I promote PieFed I don't get people on reddit telling me the UI sucked and that it's flooded with pro-russia propaganda.

                                So I find it more efficient to promote PieFed

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                                pimento64@sopuli.xyz
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                                #298

                                PieFed literally uses a social credit score system and it gets lowered if you post content the Dev doesn't like. It's shit. And it's ugly, people who want a low density enshittified web app interface should be actively filtered out.

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                                • B BruisedMoose

                                  I am unreasonably angry about the stretched icons.

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                                  tonytonychopper@mander.xyz
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                                  #299

                                  Some icons are stretched and some aren't. Double infuriating

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                                  • A anothermember@feddit.uk

                                    If it looks like anything of the past then it looks like the web from 10-15 years ago pre-mass-enshittification, maybe people have forgotten what non user hostile websites look like.

                                    Photon has infinite scrolling, which is horrible.

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                                    Xylight‮
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                                    Infinite scrolling is optional and also a feature the majority of users (not hyper specific tech nerds) want. If we are to have any hope of bringing the average social media user onto these platforms, we have to design it for them. Most of the addictiveness comes from the algorithm (lemmy lacks a personalized one), not necessarily the infinite scrolling itself

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                                    • N network_switch@lemmy.ml

                                      The Element application is solid now. Still I think it'd be a rough transition for most discord users. But more users probably means more potential for developer interest

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                                      nocturne
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                                      The Element application is solid now.

                                      Eh, kind of. I have almost 300 unread message notifications I cannot get rid of. I have scrolled up as far as I can then slowly back down. I have gone into threads and done the same.

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                                      • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                        Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                                        muimota
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                                        Isn't lemmy the reddit of the fediverse?

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                                        • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                          Fair point,

                                          I omitted Facebook in my image because fuck that kind of social media (my opinion)

                                          I picked PieFed over Lemmy because UX is everything and currently PieFed has much better UX.

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                                          Magnum, P.I.
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                                          Fuck that kind of social media but tiktok and Instagram are better?????

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