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1st Feb is #GlobalSwitchDay

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  • YTG123Y YTG123

    And obviously the Piefed codebase is so politically and ethically agreeable… /s

    No one likes the lemmy lead devs or their stances. But, to my knowledge, they just keep doing their own thing over at .ml and never channel it into their actual codebase.

    When I first started here, I was on Kbin, and switched to lemmy because it was so much better. I considered switching to Piefed exactly because of these reasons you mentioned (I've already switched lemmy instances, comment history is not an issue for me), but when I looked into it there were so many just frankly aggravating things about the way it works and filters stuff by default (not to mention being written in Python, but that's completely tangential) that I couldn't do it.

    Sure, lemmy developers have backwards principles. But at least their software doesn't. I completely get why someone would use Piefed instead, especially if they're trans or of some other demographic directly targeted by the lemmy developers, but I wouldn't do it myself (unless it gets better, of course).

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    galacticsushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    And obviously the Piefed codebase is so politically and ethically agreeable… /s

    People are more likely to donate to a project that they actually use. If more people are using piefed, it means more money going to that project rather than a bunch of tankies. So I can see why people who disagree with the Lemmy devs might want to direct people elsewhere even if the software itself is apolitical.

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    • G goferking (he/him)

      I'd argue that it is more because so many people have hate comms and groups set up specifically to target the lemmy devs. Idk why people hate Des so much

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      warl0k3@lemmy.world
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      Theee are hate comms for the lemmy devs? I've failed run across them, huh.

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      • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

        Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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        doingthestuff@lemy.lol
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        Do you really want the world to join here? I don't think you do. A lot of the world is anti trans, anti woke or whatever they want to call it. I'm pretty open minded but the Marxist purists who continuously shout down differing opinions get really old sometimes.

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        • D doingthestuff@lemy.lol

          Do you really want the world to join here? I don't think you do. A lot of the world is anti trans, anti woke or whatever they want to call it. I'm pretty open minded but the Marxist purists who continuously shout down differing opinions get really old sometimes.

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          mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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          Elsewhere in this thread it is said that Lemmy makers have "backwards principles" and trans would be better served by "piefed".

          Elsewhere in same thread, Lemmy creators are "trans tankies".

          who is in charge of these claims and how do they reach these conclusions? I want access to the Lemmy/Piefed tankie-trans wars, I must be in wrong subs

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            earthshiptechintern01@lemmy.world
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            Ditto! I'm now loopy. Never heard of it before today. Enjoying it (and getting incentive to brush up on German).

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            • mulligrubs@lemmy.worldM mulligrubs@lemmy.world

              Elsewhere in this thread it is said that Lemmy makers have "backwards principles" and trans would be better served by "piefed".

              Elsewhere in same thread, Lemmy creators are "trans tankies".

              who is in charge of these claims and how do they reach these conclusions? I want access to the Lemmy/Piefed tankie-trans wars, I must be in wrong subs

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              zombifrancis@sh.itjust.works
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              That's entirely possible, as it's closer to being the very public conflicts of like a dozen people. You could have blocked one user and inadvertantly insulated yourself from almost all of it.

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              • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                UX is everything.

                Because I don't want to give people more descion fatigue I picked the one I felt had the best UX

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                unknown1234_5
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                the ux is dependent on the app or webapp (usually tied to an instance) you are using, and mbin is the same ux as Lemmy like 90% of the time. there is only one mobile app (Interstellar) but its no worse than most Lemmy apps. i think the better federation alone would be enough to make it more popular if Lemmy wasnt the only thing being recommended for threads.

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                • mulligrubs@lemmy.worldM mulligrubs@lemmy.world

                  Elsewhere in this thread it is said that Lemmy makers have "backwards principles" and trans would be better served by "piefed".

                  Elsewhere in same thread, Lemmy creators are "trans tankies".

                  who is in charge of these claims and how do they reach these conclusions? I want access to the Lemmy/Piefed tankie-trans wars, I must be in wrong subs

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                  doingthestuff@lemy.lol
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                  I noticed that too. I clearly don't know what the fuck is going on here.

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                  • SdWolf1902S SdWolf1902

                    Ew gross, fuck tankies. I'm really confused so both lemmy and piefed are tankie-adjacent?

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                    goat@sh.itjust.works
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                    Piefed was created because users weren't happy that the developers spend more time arguing on tankie talking points and censoring dissent than developing Lemmy.

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                    • W warl0k3@lemmy.world

                      Theee are hate comms for the lemmy devs? I've failed run across them, huh.

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                      goferking (he/him)
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                      There's even a user who manually mirrors stuff posted on ml because they hate the devs that much

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                      • G goferking (he/him)

                        There's even a user who manually mirrors stuff posted on ml because they hate the devs that much

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                        warl0k3@lemmy.world
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                        I'm not entirely sure what that means.

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                        • W warl0k3@lemmy.world

                          I'm not entirely sure what that means.

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                          goferking (he/him)
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                          There are both comms that are hostile towards the devs and a specific user who's calling is reposting content AND attacking the lemmy devs

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                          • fizz@lemmy.nzF fizz@lemmy.nz

                            What's a good peertube instance that federates with a lot? I tried tldvids but its got like 2 regular uploaders and i cant find most channels I search for.

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                            yessikg
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                            I think https://peertube.wtf

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                            • DylanMc6 [any, any]D DylanMc6 [any, any]

                              What about streaming?

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                              yessikg
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                              Peertube or Owncast

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                              • G goferking (he/him)

                                There are both comms that are hostile towards the devs and a specific user who's calling is reposting content AND attacking the lemmy devs

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                                warl0k3@lemmy.world
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                                #334

                                (I don't want to come across like I'm nitpicking because no, to be clear I'm genuinely interested in this.)

                                That many communities are hostile to the devs shouldn't be surprising, because unfortunately the lemmy devs are openly bigoted and most communities don't like that. And that's ignoring how Des is also a genocide denier and dismisses the human rights abuses of china while championing authoritarians (ex: their profile banner is currently an image of Mao), things many communities explicitly do not allow.

                                Without knowing which user you're referring to I can't speak to the scope of what they're doing, but a single user isn't exactly evidence of hate groups or hate communities specifically set up to target the lemmy devs. That's just reprehensible people being criticized, and then one potentially freak user taking it beyond what is reasonable.

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