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1st Feb is #GlobalSwitchDay

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  • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

    I've tried to promote Lemmy on Reddit in the past, only to be met with people complaining about the really old UI and bad UX, they also complain about tankies.

    PieFed doesn't have that bad rep, so I've found it easier to promote, both lead to the Fedivers so either is a win.

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    kazerniel@lemmy.world
    wrote last edited by kazerniel@lemmy.world
    #72

    PieFed has its own share of dodgy stuff:

    • opinions of the dev are hard-coded into PieFed's code with overreaching content blocks, and error messages deliberately lying to users
    • plus a 0/5 priority of testability, 1/5 priority of reliability and 2/5 priority of security described in their architecture document
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    • kazerniel@lemmy.worldK kazerniel@lemmy.world

      instead of Piefed 🙂

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      RedWheelBarrow
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      #73

      I enjoy lemmy so much!

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        kazerniel@lemmy.world
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        #74

        check out this comment

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        • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

          Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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          gmac@feddit.org
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          #75

          All the proposed services/technologies would benefit the wider consumer base and the user but switching is too big an ask for many people. We need to encourage people into using "as well as" the global defaults. That will build the network effects that lower the cost of fully switching

          An easier and bigger immediate impact would come from people replacing Chrome and google search with respectful alternatives, and/or replacing gmail or outlook with private services like proton or tuta.
          Starve the surveillance machines a little bit.

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          • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

            Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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            altphoto@lemmy.today
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            #76

            Done. I thought it was going to be difficult leaving YouTube but then they blocked new pipe which was my YT crutch. I don't know what they were thinking I was going to do but it was not re installing their app.

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            • G gmac@feddit.org

              All the proposed services/technologies would benefit the wider consumer base and the user but switching is too big an ask for many people. We need to encourage people into using "as well as" the global defaults. That will build the network effects that lower the cost of fully switching

              An easier and bigger immediate impact would come from people replacing Chrome and google search with respectful alternatives, and/or replacing gmail or outlook with private services like proton or tuta.
              Starve the surveillance machines a little bit.

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              Sergio
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              #77

              We need to encourage people into using “as well as” the global defaults.

              agreed, we need "Monthly Try Something New Day"

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              • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                bufalo1973
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                #78

                What I miss is a auth service for all of them. Something like a "common user" where you can have all your Fediverse services under the same user.

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                • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                  I used Lemmy for months, mostly in the browser and my UX was absolutely horrible.

                  The default browser UI sucks.

                  I had to try many different settings and eventually through a lot of effort found the Photon UI, which is nice.

                  The vast majority of users just won't go through that effort. PieFed's default UI is quite clean and modern and much nicer to use, which is why I promote it instead

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                  Calfpupa [she/her]
                  wrote last edited by
                  #79

                  Okay then recommend Lemmy with PhotonUI?

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                  • H hzl

                    Peertube isn't really a viable alternative. There isn't a substantial enough audience for creators and there isn't really enough content for an audience. I guess if you're one of the 100 people watching transport evolved that's cool but it isn't really a meaningful alternative. I suppose it could be supplementary, but why would creators want to drive their traffic to a site that doesn't actually matter for their visibility? I imagine the same probably applies to loops.

                    Also, like, with video you kind of want a reliable host that you know isn't going anywhere.

                    The rest are okay as long as you're not super worried about how many people are seeing what you post. Lemmy and Piefed are great for content aggregation and discussion, but they seem to be the only ones that at this point actually do anything that might be helpful.

                    I've tried Mastodon and while it's way better than Twitter it isn't exactly providing a way to reach a substantial audience. Personal websites are probably a better bet for ease of access.

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                    baroquew@lemmy.world
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                    #80

                    For most other formats, everyone creates and shares: photos, posts, sharing links. For more crafted video material, there's too much of an imbalance between the number of watchers vs creators to make a new platform an easy sell. You'd need a strong creator promise like Nebula.

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                    • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                      Sure but PieFed doesn't seem to have a tankie problem. They're blocked from what I've seen.

                      Even if that wasn't the case, PieFed doesn't have a reputation for having a tankie problem.

                      The bottom line is when I promote PieFed I don't get people on reddit telling me the UI sucked and that it's flooded with pro-russia propaganda.

                      So I find it more efficient to promote PieFed

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                      Calfpupa [she/her]
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                      #81

                      Anyone can instance can defederate from any other instance in Lemmy, not that hard to understand.

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                      • H hzl

                        Peertube isn't really a viable alternative. There isn't a substantial enough audience for creators and there isn't really enough content for an audience. I guess if you're one of the 100 people watching transport evolved that's cool but it isn't really a meaningful alternative. I suppose it could be supplementary, but why would creators want to drive their traffic to a site that doesn't actually matter for their visibility? I imagine the same probably applies to loops.

                        Also, like, with video you kind of want a reliable host that you know isn't going anywhere.

                        The rest are okay as long as you're not super worried about how many people are seeing what you post. Lemmy and Piefed are great for content aggregation and discussion, but they seem to be the only ones that at this point actually do anything that might be helpful.

                        I've tried Mastodon and while it's way better than Twitter it isn't exactly providing a way to reach a substantial audience. Personal websites are probably a better bet for ease of access.

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                        bufalo1973
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                        #82

                        Because YouTube can shoot down you account and all your videos get blocked if they want?

                        Every political content creator should use PeerTube at least as a backup.

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                        • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                          Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                          sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io
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                          #83

                          Can we self host loops yet? I've been holding out on that one. Not that I use tiktok but I would use loops and could probably get my wife to jump.

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                          • G Grail

                            I recommend MULTIVERSE, the anarcho-antirealist PieFed server. We have a karma system the same as Reddit, which you're used to, and we don't do any extra processing of the score. Some PieFed sites ignore karma earned on meme communities to prevent repost farming, but on MULTIVERSE, we just look at upvotes - downvotes, and unlike Reddit, your karma score means absolutely nothing for your ability to post on communities.

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                            Calfpupa [she/her]
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                            #84

                            Does it still prevent people from replying to people that blocked them so the conversation can continue without the blocker?

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                            • SdWolf1902S SdWolf1902

                              wait are you sure? there was a lemmy admin talking about how the software is authoritarian and has a "social credit score" that sounds like what a tankie would put in

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                              Eldritch
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                              #85

                              Piefed has two user rating systems. Your attitude, which is public, and allows people to see what your ratio of up votes to down votes is. The other being reputation, which is generally reserved for administration and moderation iirc. Which is an accumulation of how other people upvote and downvote you. Basically the sort of thing anyone could get just by looking at the public information just condensed all in one spot.

                              Anyone calling it social credit score is being disingenuous. The most controversial feature it has is its content filtering system, which is disabled by default.

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                              • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                I’ve tried to promote Lemmy on Reddit in the past, only to be met with people complaining about the really old UI and bad UX, they also complain about tankies.

                                PieFed doesn’t have that bad rep, so I’ve found it easier to promote, both lead to the Fedivers so either is a win.

                                If I make posts promoting Lemmy on reddit it gets a lot of criticism in the comments becose of the above reasons, so I promote PieFed instead.

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                                Calfpupa [she/her]
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                                #86

                                Link to a Photon Frontend then?

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                                • A altphoto@lemmy.today

                                  Done. I thought it was going to be difficult leaving YouTube but then they blocked new pipe which was my YT crutch. I don't know what they were thinking I was going to do but it was not re installing their app.

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                                  ceebee_eh@lemmy.world
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                                  #87

                                  Try Greyjay for YouTube

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                                  • A altphoto@lemmy.today

                                    Done. I thought it was going to be difficult leaving YouTube but then they blocked new pipe which was my YT crutch. I don't know what they were thinking I was going to do but it was not re installing their app.

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                                    rooty@lemmy.world
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                                    #88

                                    Newpipe works fine for me, have you updated it?

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                                    • bufalo1973B bufalo1973

                                      Because YouTube can shoot down you account and all your videos get blocked if they want?

                                      Every political content creator should use PeerTube at least as a backup.

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                                      surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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                                      They just use IG and TT as backups. Yeah, you could be banned from all three. But that's where the audience is, so without that why bother?

                                      I love the idea of fediverse video, but even I don't use it. No content I care about. No audience that would care about me. I get more visibility on a Lemmy post that just says "beans" than I would spending an hour making a 30 second video.

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                                      • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                                        Piefed has quite a few features that Lemmy doesn't have:

                                        • multicommunities
                                        • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
                                        • crossposts comments consolidation
                                        • communities moderation features
                                        • posts and user flairs
                                        • keyword filters

                                        https://join.piefed.social/features/

                                        Lemmy should get there in version 1.0, but they still don't have any precise timeframe for that release, and still need to do some testing https://lemmy.ml/comment/23570258

                                        You might see a few people discrediting Piefed for some optional filters it offers, but all of those filters are configurable by admins and disabled by default: https://piefed.zip/c/fediverse/p/1005977/piefed-admin-settings-that-allow-to-enable-or-disable-content-filters-they-are-disabled-by

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                                        ceebee_eh@lemmy.world
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                                        #90

                                        Piefed seens to have a lot of issues baked into the code

                                        https://lemmy.world/post/42299745

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                                        • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                          Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                                          grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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                                          #91

                                          Is there a voyager equivalent for piefed?

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