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Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

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  • pathief@lemmy.worldP pathief@lemmy.world

    I bought the Switch 1 on launch and loved it, it was everything I was looking for on a console. However, every single joystick broke. I bought several joy con packs and they all drift heavily. Even the pro controller drifts. Nintendo Iberia refused to even repair them. They gave me the option to either replace them with a 20 euro discount or pay 20 euros for them to ship them back.

    Awful product quality, awful support, zero accountability. Guess what, I'm spending my money elsewhere.

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    buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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    Doesn't the new switch still use a control stick design that can suffer from drift, despite it being a solved problem?

    looks it up Ah ffs, they probably didn't because they thought replacing the mounting rack and slide with magnets was more important, and powerful magnets might interfere with the other sensors (though if the magnetic field isn't moving, I think any effects could be compensated for).

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    • P phlegmy@sh.itjust.works

      All but the steamdeck, because there's no console exclusives any more and the switch can be emulated?

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      buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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      #93

      Personally, I like my PS5 because I don't really gaf what any games do with my PS5's kernel. It's my way to play games that I'd never touch on my PC (even before switching to Linux, kernel anti-cheat/DRM was a dealbreaker).

      Actually kinda ironic because Sony is the company that made me not trust shit companies install on PCs for security purposes after their rootkit (also stopped using autoplay because of that). But between the three console options, Sony is the least shitty today.

      That said, I'm not sure I'll be ever getting another console because I still do most of my gaming on my PC while those games collect dust.

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      • B buddahriffic@lemmy.world

        Doesn't the new switch still use a control stick design that can suffer from drift, despite it being a solved problem?

        looks it up Ah ffs, they probably didn't because they thought replacing the mounting rack and slide with magnets was more important, and powerful magnets might interfere with the other sensors (though if the magnetic field isn't moving, I think any effects could be compensated for).

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        rekorse@sh.itjust.works
        wrote last edited by rekorse@sh.itjust.works
        #94

        They don't want the controllers to have hall effect joysticks because they would out last the console, and they wouldn't be able to sell replacements. Its not a cost issue in my opinion, the controllers are already in the high end price range.

        You can test your theory though, you can replace switch joysticks with hall effect sticks and test it out. I found multiple sellers in a web search but haven't used them myself.

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        • B buddahriffic@lemmy.world

          Doesn't the new switch still use a control stick design that can suffer from drift, despite it being a solved problem?

          looks it up Ah ffs, they probably didn't because they thought replacing the mounting rack and slide with magnets was more important, and powerful magnets might interfere with the other sensors (though if the magnetic field isn't moving, I think any effects could be compensated for).

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          pathief@lemmy.world
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          I would be okay with defective controllers if Nintendo bothered to fix them. Through the entire lifespan of the console they sold controllers that would eventually drift. I own 3 pair of joy cons, they all drift. When sent for repair they were all deemed unrepairable, even those under warranty. That's inexcusable.

          In the new iteration of joycons they STILL don't use TMR or hall effect sticks.

          I don't want to support this company.

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          • B buddahriffic@lemmy.world

            Doesn't the new switch still use a control stick design that can suffer from drift, despite it being a solved problem?

            looks it up Ah ffs, they probably didn't because they thought replacing the mounting rack and slide with magnets was more important, and powerful magnets might interfere with the other sensors (though if the magnetic field isn't moving, I think any effects could be compensated for).

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            pathief@lemmy.world
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            I would be okay with defective controllers if Nintendo bothered to fix them. Through the entire lifespan of the console they sold controllers that would eventually drift. I own 3 pair of joy cons, they all drift. When sent for repair they were all deemed unrepairable, even those under warranty. That's inexcusable.

            In the new iteration of joycons they STILL don't use TMR or hall effect sticks.

            I don't want to support this company.

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            • washedupcynic@lemmy.caW washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

              I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles. /s Nintendo can disable your Switch 2 for piracy in the U.S., but not in Europe, as confirmed by its EULA. There is already a switch in my household, but the price along with the ability to remotely brick the device, is what made our household pass on the switch 2. We bought a second steam deck instead.

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              MyNameIsAtticus
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              #97

              I'm not really surprised. I kind of saw this coming with the price and how the sales started dropping after the launch.

              I was talking to a friend about it and i just got brushed off by him saying "The numbers are too large too mean anything". It's crazy how people like him just buried their heads in the sand

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              • D dead_or_alive@lemmy.world

                Which means exactly what?

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                melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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                #98

                Nothing counts, unless it sells, I guess.

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                • 0 0nt0p0fth3w0rld@feddit.org

                  thats weird that there were that many people buying consoles at the same time. ...i dont even think theres 5 customers in bestbuy at the same time where i live, lol.

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                  ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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                  #99

                  Well it was Black Friday when I went, so it was absolutely packed with people. I already bought a PS5 months earlier because I didn't want to wait for a sale, otherwise I probably would have picked that up too lol

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                  • JomnJ Jomn

                    IMO, Sonic Racing: Crossworlds is better than Mario Kart. I find it much more fun.

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                    deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    The Sonic Racing series is great but still isnt the same. Maybe nostalgia 🙂

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                    • tattorack@lemmy.worldT tattorack@lemmy.world

                      I got mine for 99 DKK including Mariokart because the shop selling it fucked up their discount. Best value I've ever gotten. XD

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                      wrote last edited by kolanaki@pawb.social
                      #101

                      I got one for free because someone at an Amazon fulfillment center was off their game. Ordered some storage containers; one of them had Switch 2 in it. If Duskbloods wasn't going to be an exclusive to the system, I wouldn't have even kept it.

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                        I got one for free because someone at an Amazon fulfillment center was off their game. Ordered some storage containers; one of them had Switch 2 in it. If Duskbloods wasn't going to be an exclusive to the system, I wouldn't have even kept it.

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                        tattorack@lemmy.world
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                        #102

                        I'm keeping it around because at some point in the future the Switch 2 will get hacked, and boy am I going to have some sailing to do.

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                        • deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.comD deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          Ain't got those amazing Nintendo games though. Glhf finding a Mario Cart replacement that is actually as good.

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                          #103

                          Ain't got those amazing Nintendo games though. Glhf finding a Mario Cart replacement that is actually as good.

                          This is not entirely true. Depending on the stance of the person regarding piracy. You can definitely play Mario Kart on the Steam Deck. Emulations for PS1 PS2, Switch 1 exist (there are more but these I know on the top of my head).

                          The Steam Deck can play nearly all Switch 1 titles through emulation. Yes, developers were taken down but the emulators do still work perfectly fine (I’m saying this as Steam Deck owner and using Emulators myself).

                          EDIT; noticed we are in the same instance. Now I’m curious whether you were serious or it was sarcasm…

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                          • R rafoix@lemmy.zip

                            you're a lot less beholden to specific companies over here.

                            There’s only two CPU companies that often inflate their prices. There’s 3 but really only 2 GPU companies that also often inflate prices.

                            Let’s not talk about RAM.

                            Also, don’t forget the multiple price fixing lawsuits that got a lot of attention.

                            You might not like consoles but the PC world is more overpriced and just as predatory as the console market. It’s just businesses being greedy.

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                            oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip
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                            #104

                            Right, but again, you have choices in almost every piece of hardware.

                            Consoles lock you down a lot harder in this respect. You either but their hardware and possibly software, or you miss out on the whole thing.

                            And a lot of people, like a sibling of mine is just getting to the point of maturity where you figure out the brand you like is the bad guy and you don't want to give them money anymore, but you sorely miss the product itself.

                            Given how hard they're locked in, it's really hard for them to jump to a new platform. Not quite as bad as switching from Android to or from iPhone, but not super far off.

                            Personally I jumped out completely before I got invested in a digital console store, so I didn't have that problem. But the point is that they gotta completely start a new collection and paradigm.

                            Whereas if you one day have a huge problem with let's say, Steam, you can just opt to never buy from them again without losing access to your library, no matter what hardware you're running it on.

                            You can choose to never buy an Acer monitor, CoolerMaster PSU, or (insert other random examples) while still having a computer.

                            I mean it's impossible to really find "good" companies, but you can at least pick your lines in the sand with a lot more granularity than just consoles.

                            It's not perfect, but is still better than the big 3.

                            Plus no matter where you land with your choices, you will still have the same library.

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