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Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period

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  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldJ jordanlund@lemmy.world

    The Switch 2 is the first console I've just outright skipped in... well... years now. I guess since the Wii U?

    Just every piece of news about it as it was coming out made it sound less and less appealing...

    $70 games (that never get discounted because Nintendo.)

    Games aren't "games", they're download keys.

    Special SD cards that are more expensive.

    Microphone support requires a subscription after 1 year.

    Charging $10 for a hardware demo that should be included, like Desk Job on the Steam Deck.

    And, like you say, the remote detonation option, which is burning legitimate players:

    https://www.gadgetmatch.com/nintendo-switch-2-lawsuit-bricked-consoles/

    Generally with new hardware it's "Hey, what's not to like?"

    With the Switch 2 it's more "What is there to like?"

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    ichnichtenlichten@lemmy.wtf
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    Too expensive, too enshittified for me to consider. All they had to do was not fuck this up and they would've had a guaranteed sale but I don't ever see myself spending a cent on Nintendo ever again.

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    • broadfern@lemmy.worldB broadfern@lemmy.world

      Same. I was able to get like 10 long-wishlisted games for ~$100 with the Steam Winter Sale, too. Nintendo would never.

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      cosmonova@lemmy.world
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      Well I saw Pokemon Legends ZA for 48% off recently. Not that it‘s worth that much or that I would ever buy a Switch 2. I actually stumbled upon that sale randomly. But the fact it‘s on sale already speaks volumes. Nintendo is likely in panic mode.

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      • washedupcynic@lemmy.caW washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

        I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles. /s Nintendo can disable your Switch 2 for piracy in the U.S., but not in Europe, as confirmed by its EULA. There is already a switch in my household, but the price along with the ability to remotely brick the device, is what made our household pass on the switch 2. We bought a second steam deck instead.

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        cattywampas@lemmy.world
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        I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles.

        The average consumer does not care about this. The biggest reasons for people to not buy a Switch 2 are 1) people don't have money and 2) lack of major first-party games. I waited months until I found a MKW bundle for $450 at a black Friday sale.

        Once we get the next 3D Mario or Zelda, you can bet they will sell a lot of consoles.

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        • washedupcynic@lemmy.caW washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

          I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles. /s Nintendo can disable your Switch 2 for piracy in the U.S., but not in Europe, as confirmed by its EULA. There is already a switch in my household, but the price along with the ability to remotely brick the device, is what made our household pass on the switch 2. We bought a second steam deck instead.

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          anakin78z@lemmy.world
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          Hah, we got a second deck, too.

          My son got 2 Pokémon games and a dlc. Seems like there's plenty of life left in the Switch 1 for now, so no need to update.

          When we got the switch 1, it actually sat unused for most of the first year. After a while we started to really enjoy it though. Maybe we'll get a switch 2 in a year.

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            I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles.

            The average consumer does not care about this. The biggest reasons for people to not buy a Switch 2 are 1) people don't have money and 2) lack of major first-party games. I waited months until I found a MKW bundle for $450 at a black Friday sale.

            Once we get the next 3D Mario or Zelda, you can bet they will sell a lot of consoles.

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            nalivai@lemmy.world
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            Also steamdeck is amazing, and a lot of people who want a handheld just chose that one

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            • washedupcynic@lemmy.caW washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

              I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles. /s Nintendo can disable your Switch 2 for piracy in the U.S., but not in Europe, as confirmed by its EULA. There is already a switch in my household, but the price along with the ability to remotely brick the device, is what made our household pass on the switch 2. We bought a second steam deck instead.

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              iegod
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              Needs more games. Next mainline Zelda or Mario and I'm in. Was never a DK fan and Mario kart isn't enough.

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                Also steamdeck is amazing, and a lot of people who want a handheld just chose that one

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                thethirdobject@lemmy.world
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                steamdeck and switch 2 don't address the same audience at all imo

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                  steamdeck and switch 2 don't address the same audience at all imo

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                  They can if you install Linux on it and run a switch emu.

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                  • washedupcynic@lemmy.caW washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

                    I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles. /s Nintendo can disable your Switch 2 for piracy in the U.S., but not in Europe, as confirmed by its EULA. There is already a switch in my household, but the price along with the ability to remotely brick the device, is what made our household pass on the switch 2. We bought a second steam deck instead.

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                    Chloé 🥕
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                    nintendo is having its PS3 moment

                    a comically overpriced console with few interesting exclusives made by an arrogant company high on the success of its predecessor

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                    • Chloé 🥕C Chloé 🥕

                      nintendo is having its PS3 moment

                      a comically overpriced console with few interesting exclusives made by an arrogant company high on the success of its predecessor

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                      supramario@lemmy.world
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                      Don't forget that rents their old games back to you, which is why they're so against emulation.

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                        They can if you install Linux on it and run a switch emu.

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                        nalivai@lemmy.world
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                        It already comes with Linux installed, and an emulator can be setup with five button presses and thirty seconds of waiting.
                        The base system is setup as immutable, but /home isn't, so aur isn't available out of the box, but flatpacks are for example

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                        • R ramrabbit@lemmy.world

                          The Steam Deck is the better product anyway. Got one recently and damn is it good.

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                          LemmyEntertainYou
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                          I find the Steam Deck far too heavy and bulky unfortunately. I'd love a Switch sized handheld PC.

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                          • washedupcynic@lemmy.caW washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

                            I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles. /s Nintendo can disable your Switch 2 for piracy in the U.S., but not in Europe, as confirmed by its EULA. There is already a switch in my household, but the price along with the ability to remotely brick the device, is what made our household pass on the switch 2. We bought a second steam deck instead.

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                            oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip
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                            I hope they struggle the company underground.

                            The unwashed console plebs can join the gamers with the Steam Machine/Deck and see what gaming is supposed to be like.

                            There's still shitty stuff happening, but you're a lot less beholden to specific companies over here.

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                            • F fenderstratocaster@lemmy.world
                              1. AIn't nobody got no money.

                              2. It's a Switch, but they added a "2"

                              3. $80 for Mario Kart? At that price, we've got Mario Kart at home.

                              In all seriousness, the Nintendo Wii was REVOLUTIONARY when it came out. It was gangbusters when it released. It was $249, which is about $400 in today's money, but for a completely original and amazing new system. The Wii U wasn't exactly as revolutionary. It was a controller with a screen that you couldn't take with you. It was a flop.

                              The Switch was a modern equivalent of the Wii. It was new. It was different. It was a mobile gaming console.

                              The Switch 2 IS THE SWITCH. There is nothing new about it to the everyday consumer mom and dad. There are no cool new features. No cool new games. It doesn't justify itself or the cost to the sticky fingered kid next door who is content with Minecraft on the original Switch. Nintendo did what an American company led by shareholders would do and continued to do more of the same and will likely blame the consumer.

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                              Ephera
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                              Mario-Kart-at-home by the way: supertuxkart.net
                              Buy now for $0 and get Rocket-League-at-home for free on top!
                              (It's one of the game modes in SuperTuxKart. 🙃)

                              But yeah, $80 is kind of wild, even just because it's fundamentally still a cart game. You pretty much need a group to regularly play it with, otherwise you won't get your money's worth out of that.

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                                I hope they struggle the company underground.

                                The unwashed console plebs can join the gamers with the Steam Machine/Deck and see what gaming is supposed to be like.

                                There's still shitty stuff happening, but you're a lot less beholden to specific companies over here.

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                                rafoix@lemmy.zip
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                                you're a lot less beholden to specific companies over here.

                                There’s only two CPU companies that often inflate their prices. There’s 3 but really only 2 GPU companies that also often inflate prices.

                                Let’s not talk about RAM.

                                Also, don’t forget the multiple price fixing lawsuits that got a lot of attention.

                                You might not like consoles but the PC world is more overpriced and just as predatory as the console market. It’s just businesses being greedy.

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                                • washedupcynic@lemmy.caW washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

                                  I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles. /s Nintendo can disable your Switch 2 for piracy in the U.S., but not in Europe, as confirmed by its EULA. There is already a switch in my household, but the price along with the ability to remotely brick the device, is what made our household pass on the switch 2. We bought a second steam deck instead.

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                                  rafoix@lemmy.zip
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                                  The Switch 2 is not expensive.

                                  The people that think this are getting screwed by their jobs but they don’t want to think about their wage stagnating while their boss buys extra boats and houses.

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                                  • washedupcynic@lemmy.caW washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

                                    I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles. /s Nintendo can disable your Switch 2 for piracy in the U.S., but not in Europe, as confirmed by its EULA. There is already a switch in my household, but the price along with the ability to remotely brick the device, is what made our household pass on the switch 2. We bought a second steam deck instead.

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                                    the16bitgamer@programming.dev
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                                    The biggest issue is the price. I remember a time when even the poorest kid in class had a Nintendo because it was cheap.

                                    The last cheap Nintendo was the 2DS over a decade ago. Most parents are looking for cheap hardware with entertainment and there isn’t anything which comes close to it.

                                    Even the switch lite is the same price as the PS3 bundle back in the day. And it came with 2 real controllers and a game.

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                                      I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles. /s Nintendo can disable your Switch 2 for piracy in the U.S., but not in Europe, as confirmed by its EULA. There is already a switch in my household, but the price along with the ability to remotely brick the device, is what made our household pass on the switch 2. We bought a second steam deck instead.

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                                      tigeroovy@lemmy.ca
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                                      I mean, it’s very expensive. If I were employed when it released I’d have probably gotten one, but there’s what like 2 games that are exclusive to it?

                                      It can wait until I can afford one. Probably on sale.

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                                        I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles. /s Nintendo can disable your Switch 2 for piracy in the U.S., but not in Europe, as confirmed by its EULA. There is already a switch in my household, but the price along with the ability to remotely brick the device, is what made our household pass on the switch 2. We bought a second steam deck instead.

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                                        finishingdutch@lemmy.world
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                                        The main thing holding me back is the fact that it doesn’t have an OLED display. With the price hike between the original and 2, in my opinion it should’ve launched with an OLED as standard. When even cheap phones come with it, Nintendo has no excuse not to include one.

                                        And the game prices also aren’t helping, I imagine. Not when the games themselves are lacklustre as well. The new Mario Kart should’ve been a system seller. But the people I know who own it, have reverted back to playing the previous version. That’s a baaaad look.

                                        I’ll likely buy the Switch 2 when they launch an OLED and release a new Animal Crossing.

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                                        • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF finishingdutch@lemmy.world

                                          The main thing holding me back is the fact that it doesn’t have an OLED display. With the price hike between the original and 2, in my opinion it should’ve launched with an OLED as standard. When even cheap phones come with it, Nintendo has no excuse not to include one.

                                          And the game prices also aren’t helping, I imagine. Not when the games themselves are lacklustre as well. The new Mario Kart should’ve been a system seller. But the people I know who own it, have reverted back to playing the previous version. That’s a baaaad look.

                                          I’ll likely buy the Switch 2 when they launch an OLED and release a new Animal Crossing.

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                                          blametheantifa@lemmy.world
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                                          Nintendo has no excuse not to include one.

                                          They do have an excuse.

                                          A Spongebob meme depicting Mr. Krabs hoarding money with the word “GREED” printed across the top.

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