Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period
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The Switch 2 is the first console I've just outright skipped in... well... years now. I guess since the Wii U?
Just every piece of news about it as it was coming out made it sound less and less appealing...
$70 games (that never get discounted because Nintendo.)
Games aren't "games", they're download keys.
Special SD cards that are more expensive.
Microphone support requires a subscription after 1 year.
Charging $10 for a hardware demo that should be included, like Desk Job on the Steam Deck.
And, like you say, the remote detonation option, which is burning legitimate players:
https://www.gadgetmatch.com/nintendo-switch-2-lawsuit-bricked-consoles/
Generally with new hardware it's "Hey, what's not to like?"
With the Switch 2 it's more "What is there to like?"
i skipped the first new switch, due to pokemon swsh, never regretted it, and many accurately predicted how bad it is with pokemon.
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I picked up Advance Wars 1+2 Reboot for my kid for Christmas. $60 still after coming out in 2023.
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/advance-wars-1-plus-2-re-boot-camp-switch/
(* "My kid" - He's 29, he should be buying his own games! LOL.)
i was planning to get a the first switch, with pokemon dint because of how bad the quality it was, and due to them admitting all future POKEMON games are going to be this way was the biggest turn off.
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Too expensive, too enshittified for me to consider. All they had to do was not fuck this up and they would've had a guaranteed sale but I don't ever see myself spending a cent on Nintendo ever again.
also pokemon console being trashed by gamefreak incensed alot of switch/nintendo fans too.
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I can't justify spending $600 to get a slightly better Switch.
its all those excess fees coming along with buying the switch, and the game, +online features.
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I wonder if it's because they had 10 million ready to go in June for launch so most people who wanted one got one then. Especially because it'll never go down in price, why wait until the holidays unless you have kids?
nintendo is likely banking on the parents to buy for the needy kids right on launch.
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I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles.
The average consumer does not care about this. The biggest reasons for people to not buy a Switch 2 are 1) people don't have money and 2) lack of major first-party games. I waited months until I found a MKW bundle for $450 at a black Friday sale.
Once we get the next 3D Mario or Zelda, you can bet they will sell a lot of consoles.
i suspect it also pokemon being popular, but hasnt been producing anything but slop has something to do with it too.
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Hah, we got a second deck, too.
My son got 2 Pokémon games and a dlc. Seems like there's plenty of life left in the Switch 1 for now, so no need to update.
When we got the switch 1, it actually sat unused for most of the first year. After a while we started to really enjoy it though. Maybe we'll get a switch 2 in a year.
and people who are pokemon fans, likely keep thier old consoles with the pokmeon games so they can play it again, and transfer older pokemon to the newer consoles too.
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Needs more games. Next mainline Zelda or Mario and I'm in. Was never a DK fan and Mario kart isn't enough.
or tell gamefreak to get thier heads out of thier behinds and make a better pokemon game, and not try justify the slop as a 60$ game.
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Better performance and new exclusives.
I'm waiting until they get cheap on the second-hand markets before even considering buying one.
And mouse controls which seemed like a useless feature, but proved to be a really awesome one!
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The Switch 2 is not expensive.
The people that think this are getting screwed by their jobs but they don’t want to think about their wage stagnating while their boss buys extra boats and houses.
its actually more expensive if you include all the fees with online play, subscription that is required, even moreso with things like pokemon, also DLCs.
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I find the Steam Deck far too heavy and bulky unfortunately. I'd love a Switch sized handheld PC.
Idk I picked it up and personally I felt the complete opposite. Everyone says its so massive and huge, I expected this massive bulky handheld but sadly its the opposite. Its big yeah but not really controller sized, my hands are too big for it so I'll just stick to the steam controller (until the new one releases)
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I've seen this evolve over the years. Time to give it a shot.
I actually reinstalled it myself after writing that comment.
I only really started to fully appreciate it, when I learned that drifting gives you a boost. So, if you're going around curves, you pretty much always want to drift, which then kicks your speed up once you stop drifting. Maintaining a higher speed than your car normally goes, is vital for beating the harder difficulties.
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its actually more expensive if you include all the fees with online play, subscription that is required, even moreso with things like pokemon, also DLCs.
Isn’t everything more expensive if you include the costs of buying more stuff needed to enjoy it? PC, Console, Car, House, Burger, etcetera.
Online play on the Switch is $20 a year. The fact that they charge for online play and save backups is bullshit but not anywhere as bad as people pretend.
Isn’t Pokémon like a regular game you only need to buy once?
Switch 2 - $500
Pokemon - $70
Pokémon DLC - $30
Online - $20$620 to play Pokemon
I don’t play Pokémon but games with crazy fandoms (Diablo, CoD, Final Fantasy) always seem to get milked for every penny.
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I didn't buy it because fuck Nintendo. They treat their customers with such disrespect and disdain, a company that's only bring held together by nostalgia alone. They've gotten into a cycle of seeing just how much money they can get while putting in no effort.
especially with pokemon games, its unforgivable how expensive they are for such a sloppily made genre, since swsh.
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The games are prohibitively expensive.
Even if you calculate hours-of-entertainment-per-dollar-spent, it’s crazy expensive.
pokemon is likely thier flagship game, and the quality seems to have gone down with each new game coming out, per masuda, cant really justify a very expensive game like pokemon and a switch 2, besides pokemon has extra fees that comes with it too.
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Nintendo has no excuse not to include one.
They do have an excuse.
they are banking on 10 and under nagging on thier parents to buy the game cosole, they may only play few times a year. this was pretty much the craze of YUGIOH cards early 2000s, and pokemon in that same time period.
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I mean, it’s very expensive. If I were employed when it released I’d have probably gotten one, but there’s what like 2 games that are exclusive to it?
It can wait until I can afford one. Probably on sale.
i was employed during the 1st switch launch(the one after oled) pokemon turned me off from the console game forever, also masuda made a point that pokemon will not get any better later on, because hes all burned out from the industry.
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I'm not the target audience for the switch 2, but i honestly wouldn't buy it just because how shitty they are. They sold a tutorial game that should clearly be free. Donkey kong is like 80 dollars and just a month or 2 later they released a dlc for half the price. The games don't even seem to be good. Mario kart is mediocre at best, metroid is embarrassing. And the company itself is pretty embarrassing itself with their lawsuit crusades
pokemon got worst too, and its likely thier flagship game thats probably selling the most.
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Personally, I prefer not to be Nintendo because of Nintendo’s behavior, but the price is why they still struggle to sell these.
They sold a ton right out of the gate. Everyone that really wanted one already got one. After that, they need parents and grandparents to get them for the kids and that isn’t going to happen as much.
Nintendo was basically a “toy”. You could, for the most part, safely buy a Nintendo console for your kids at a somewhat reasonable price. (I know the OG consoles were a bit pricey).
You could buy your kid a handheld console for ~$200 or less. The Switch 1 was $300, but you could still get your kid a Lite for $200.
Now, the only option is a $450 Switch 2.
Switch 2 desperately needs a TV-only version. I imagine the manufacturing cost would be drastically lower.
No dock, no joycons, no battery, no LCD.
Just a console, power supply, controller and HDMI cord.
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The biggest issue is the price. I remember a time when even the poorest kid in class had a Nintendo because it was cheap.
The last cheap Nintendo was the 2DS over a decade ago. Most parents are looking for cheap hardware with entertainment and there isn’t anything which comes close to it.
Even the switch lite is the same price as the PS3 bundle back in the day. And it came with 2 real controllers and a game.
i bought my 3ds(latest version) 10years ago, for ultramoon and sun. and never bought a swithc after that.
