UK government starting to think about leaving X
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Mastadon
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every legit gov should get off X … it is a security risk.
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At this point, if you know what X has been doing and you're still on there, you're condonning the sick images it's producing and spreading. ESPECIALLY if you're paying for it. The UK government (where I'm from) need to treat it as it would any other site that produces this sick, harmful material. If this was some no-name site run by some poor, no influence guy from his bedroom, they would have blocked it weeks ago.
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UK government starting to thing about leaving "the CSAM and general AI porn creation site" X.
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Why are they there in the first place?
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Why are they there in the first place?
Surely you're not saying they shouldn't have had a Twitter presence?
Or is this more of a "they should have left when Elon took over" kind of thing? In which case, they probably thought that the majority of people who follow(ed) them on there wouldn't have left immediately - not least because there weren't any good alternatives* at the time - so it would have made sense to maintain a presence, which I think is what's actually going on.
* Yes, Mastodon existed, but you've got to think about the average person here. There's a reason the first people on there were academics and tech folks.
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I'm no fan of Starmer, even less of the OSA but Grok is literally producing deepfake CSAM and other non consensual images. The UK government, like I would hope the vast majority of people, think that's appalling and don't want it to happen. They asked X/Musk to stop Grok producing non consensual deepfakes and all they did was limit its availability to paying subscribers - essentially making the creation of deepfake CSAM a premium service. All Musk really demonstrated is that X can act swiftly, despite the numerous times it said it can't, but doesn't want to deprive its paying users of the ability to create CSAM.
It's totally insane to me that this is being framed, by US Republicans as a free speech issue but I guess a country that can murder a woman driving a car is fucked up in plenty of other ways too.
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At this point, if you know what X has been doing and you're still on there, you're condonning the sick images it's producing and spreading. ESPECIALLY if you're paying for it. The UK government (where I'm from) need to treat it as it would any other site that produces this sick, harmful material. If this was some no-name site run by some poor, no influence guy from his bedroom, they would have blocked it weeks ago.
Its like these officials dont understand the power of this stuff. Like, X is actively working against them, trying to deligitimize established powers at every turn and they don't seem to feel that's urgent in any way? Are they just oblivious? What good does X do anyone at all besides Elon/Nazis/Pedos?
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I'm no fan of Starmer, even less of the OSA but Grok is literally producing deepfake CSAM and other non consensual images. The UK government, like I would hope the vast majority of people, think that's appalling and don't want it to happen. They asked X/Musk to stop Grok producing non consensual deepfakes and all they did was limit its availability to paying subscribers - essentially making the creation of deepfake CSAM a premium service. All Musk really demonstrated is that X can act swiftly, despite the numerous times it said it can't, but doesn't want to deprive its paying users of the ability to create CSAM.
It's totally insane to me that this is being framed, by US Republicans as a free speech issue but I guess a country that can murder a woman driving a car is fucked up in plenty of other ways too.
Honestly, I'm more surprised governments didn't invoke the "think of the children" argument here and sanction Shitter. Feels like now would have been a perfect moment
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Anyone or institution still on X is a joke. Except maybe a journalist. But even still.
When is the UK going to make their official reddit account?
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Brexit was a Russian op.
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Surely you're not saying they shouldn't have had a Twitter presence?
Or is this more of a "they should have left when Elon took over" kind of thing? In which case, they probably thought that the majority of people who follow(ed) them on there wouldn't have left immediately - not least because there weren't any good alternatives* at the time - so it would have made sense to maintain a presence, which I think is what's actually going on.
* Yes, Mastodon existed, but you've got to think about the average person here. There's a reason the first people on there were academics and tech folks.
Surely you’re not saying they shouldn’t have had a Twitter presence
No, they shouldn't have a Twitter presence. All public institutions should require full authority over the domain used for mass communication.
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Surely you’re not saying they shouldn’t have had a Twitter presence
No, they shouldn't have a Twitter presence. All public institutions should require full authority over the domain used for mass communication.
This is a bit like saying that governments shouldn't post notices in public places.
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This is a bit like saying that governments shouldn't post notices in public places.
@palordrolap @rglullis @brachiosaurus Government should post things in publoc places but X and Facebook arent public. They are like shopping malls - free to talk into but put restrictions around what you can do, substitute public law for.private contractual agreements and they replace public justice for their abitrary decision making about behalviour and extract costs ( data, tracking, attention sellijg & emotional manulipulation) from visitors. All of these things are bad for citizen involvement. -
How?
Twitter is not a public place and has been looking more and more like the opposite of it. Nowadays you can not even go someone's profile to browse their timeline without logging in.
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How?
Twitter is not a public place and has been looking more and more like the opposite of it. Nowadays you can not even go someone's profile to browse their timeline without logging in.
@rglullis@communick.news @abeorch@friendica.ginestes.es
It may not be a public place per se, but it is a place where a very large cohort of the general public go.
Perhaps my analogy should have been "This is bit like saying that governments shouldn't make announcements on television and radio stations not under government control."
The same logic applies there. Of course they should. A large cohort of the general public watch television and listen to the radio (less so these days in the age of the Internet, but people do still watch and listen there.).
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TV stations and radio channels are under government control. The government is the one who controls the licenses for spectrum.
it is a place where a very large cohort of the general public go.
Unless your are completely inept at technology and you have no regards for open standards, there is zero reason to think "just go wherever the audiences are" is a sensible strategy for public institutions.
The internet at large is still accessible. RSS is still a thing. Email is still a thing. If people really are so interested in following status updates from the government, they can easily go to the government-owned website. We are not talking about someone running a food truck and wants to reach customers to sell burritos. We are talking about entities that are so large that they make their own gravity.
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@palordrolap @rglullis @brachiosaurus But generally government officials make announcements at press conferences in government buildings with an open method for press to become acredited and attend. Sure politicians do media appearances - buts thats different - they are normally acting as an individual - effectively as a candidate.
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It's the government, they spend millions of public money in pr, they should have never had a twitter account to begin with and should have used their own tools.
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It's the government, they spend millions of public money in pr, they should have never had a twitter account to begin with and should have used their own tools.
Government creates announcement feed. No-one knows about it because they can only advertise it on their own announcement feed.
What now?
