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  • C cheesybuddha@lemmy.world

    I'm actually pretty happy that Discord is killing itself. Far too many people use it as an official platform for stuff like help forums.

    Maybe lets go back to basic message boards that are actually searchable, etc.

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    nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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    Self-hosted options like Mumble also exist.

    Self-hosted is a pain to get started with but as everything enshittifies if will only get more important.

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    • A anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone

      SSDs are not cheap anymore, mate. "AI" made sure of that.

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      thermal_shock
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      Sure, but if we're repurposing a decade old machine, I doubt a 1TB drive is required. Learn to live within 256 or 512, those are not super expensive. And don't need nvme, sata is perfectly acceptable.

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      • PikaP Pika

        For ID scans, Discord says that documents “are deleted quickly.”

        Just a few months ago they had a data leak which proved that they were indeed /not/ deleting documents and ID's like they had been claiming.

        Granted in that case it was mostly countries that force keeping that data but, I'm sick of companies lying and saying "lol yea we defo delete the data after"

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        lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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        We delete your data after we hand it off to our partners. Who definitely do not delete it.

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        • N nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca

          Self-hosted options like Mumble also exist.

          Self-hosted is a pain to get started with but as everything enshittifies if will only get more important.

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          dev_null@lemmy.ml
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          As someone who doesn't use the voice chat feature of Discord, I am always confused when people suggest things like Mumble as an alternative.

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            recklessengagement@lemmy.world
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            Does anyone know any good tools/methods for archiving entire servers/all your DMs?

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            • C cheesybuddha@lemmy.world

              What's wrong with good old fashioned data base backed message forums? There are so many implementations available, I'm sure many are FOSS, and I'm sure there's managed solutions as well. It's a mature, tested, rock solid reliable technology that has existed pretty much since the inception of the internet, and can be easily incorporated into other tools and workflows - because there is 40+ years of development work with the concept.

              Seriously, why?

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              mic_check_one_two@reddthat.com
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              #137

              Forums are great for being forums. Real-time instant messaging, voice chat, video chat, and screen sharing are all a very different use-case. They’re two entirely separate products, and comparing them is apples and oranges. People are looking to replace Discord with Discord-like services, because forums don’t fucking do what Discord does.

              The big problem (and the reason everyone seems to compare the two) is that Discord started eating forums, as companies realized it was easier to create a Discord server instead of creating (and hosting, and maintaining) a support forum. And that’s a perfectly valid complaint. But that doesn’t mean forums are a valid replacement for Discord.

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              • M moonpiedumplings@programming.dev

                This is not truly foolproof. Data can still be recovered from the spinning metal platter since it can theoretically be removed and put into a recovery device, even in a broken state.

                Im addition to that, hard drives/ssd's sometimes have small flash memory chips, from which data can sometimes be recovered.

                If you want it to actually be unrecoverable then you have to actually ensure all parts thay store data are truly deleted/wiped, which is more than just the core platter. Or just use encryption and throw away the key, since all data going through the tiny OS on these devices will be encrypted. Or just store them forever in a vault.

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                thunderqueen@lemmy.world
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                Microwave it idk

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                • C criss_cross@lemmy.world
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                  sabinstargem@lemmy.today
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                  I will use AI image generation, such as "Thispersondoesnotexist". They can have an imaginary face for their data brokers.

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                  • B billwashere

                    I am of the opinion that any project that uses Discord for support, I just immediately ignore.

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                    bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
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                    So mad at retro tink for this...

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                    • T thermal_shock

                      Bud, if you put that platter back together after I snipped it, you deserve every bit of data you get off it, 1000%

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                      moonpiedumplings@programming.dev
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                      It's not that hard though. There are companies that offer data recovery as a service. If the value of the data on those drives exceeds the cost of those services then it becomes worth it to fish one of the drives out of the dumpster and take it there.

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                      • A anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                        You can selfhost TS6 now? O:

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                        teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
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                        Sure can

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                        • recklessengagement@lemmy.worldR recklessengagement@lemmy.world

                          Does anyone know any good tools/methods for archiving entire servers/all your DMs?

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                          semiauto@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          I used this one before, worked great.
                          https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter

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                          • A anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                            How do you do voice calls/voice group calls in Matrix?

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                            littleomid@feddit.org
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                            In element there’s a button on top of the chat. I press that and it’s calling.

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                            • F false@lemmy.world

                              It's way too complicated for tech illiterate people.

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                              littleomid@feddit.org
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                              It really is no different than discord. You create an account, download the client, log in and that’s that. You don’t have to self host it or use any instance that isn’t the main instance. Just go to matrix.org and sign up.

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                              • I iamthetot

                                I mean, I share the complaint of Discord having tons of unindexable knowledge locked away in it, but forums are not good replacement for my friend group. So yeah we kinda want a Discord alternative specifically.

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                                Spaniard
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                                #146

                                Wire exists.

                                Obviously the problem isn't you and your friends, the problems is services that use discord like it's a forum, dispatcharr for example "oh do you want support? Join our discord". Fine, I'll figure it out myself.

                                My group of friends, like yours, we have a discord server with 9 channels, more than half aren't used, and one of the channels is to share links.

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                                • M moonpiedumplings@programming.dev

                                  It's not that hard though. There are companies that offer data recovery as a service. If the value of the data on those drives exceeds the cost of those services then it becomes worth it to fish one of the drives out of the dumpster and take it there.

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                                  thermal_shock
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                                  #147

                                  This is a very specialized job, your avg joe is not going to do it. Also, in the many years I've been in IT, I've never even seen a video of a platter reconstructed and get data off it.

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                                  • M mic_check_one_two@reddthat.com

                                    Forums are great for being forums. Real-time instant messaging, voice chat, video chat, and screen sharing are all a very different use-case. They’re two entirely separate products, and comparing them is apples and oranges. People are looking to replace Discord with Discord-like services, because forums don’t fucking do what Discord does.

                                    The big problem (and the reason everyone seems to compare the two) is that Discord started eating forums, as companies realized it was easier to create a Discord server instead of creating (and hosting, and maintaining) a support forum. And that’s a perfectly valid complaint. But that doesn’t mean forums are a valid replacement for Discord.

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                                    Spaniard
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                                    He is talking about forums because the main issue with discord is that it's cut from the rest of the internet so nothing is indexed and a lot of platforms and services use discord like a forum (it isn't).

                                    No one wants our conversations indexed, and discord shouldn't be a forum.

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                                    • B barneypiccolo@lemmy.today

                                      Yep, straight to Palantir.

                                      In 10 years, when MAGA has everything locked down, and you complain about something online, they'll put out a BOLO, and instantly, the entire network will start checking every camera for your face, and within a few minutes they will have a timeline on your movements for as far back as they want, including every time you enter or leave your house. If you aren't in your house, they'll find you out there somewhere, and immediately dispatch ICE Apes to find you, detain you, and send you to the nearest work camp, where you will be leased out as a slave to some corporation.

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                                      thermal_shock
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                                      That's Black Mirror Season X

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                                      • starman2112@sh.itjust.worksS starman2112@sh.itjust.works

                                        I'll gladly scan a face. I just happen to look exactly like Gale Dekarios

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                                        thermal_shock
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                                        Dan Bongino!

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                                          doorbook@lemmy.world
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                                          They got scared when a full revolution started in discord channels.

                                          Anyone have a FOSS with screen share / group service?

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