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  • D disconnectikacio@lemmy.world

    Discord was always an overhyped crap.

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    87six@lemmy.zip
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    Not really. At the beginning it was amazing. It took 0 resources to run while gaming and the call quality was miles ahead, nevermind the flexibility around servers and what you could do with them.

    Then, as all things, it turned to shit once ot gained market share.

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    • C captcha_incorrect@lemmy.world

      It also includes other functions that is not NSFW. Nothing that I personally care about but might be a deal breaker for bigger communities.

      Discord breaks down the restrictions as follows:

      • Content Filters: Discord users will need to be age-assured as adults in order to unblur sensitive content or turn off the setting.
      • Age-gated Spaces: – Only users who are age-assured as adults will be able to access age-restricted channels, servers, and app commands.
      • Message Request Inbox: Direct messages from people a user may not know are routed to a separate inbox by default, and access to modify this setting is limited to age-assured adult users.
      • Friend Request Alerts: People will receive warning prompts for friend requests from users they may not know.
      • Stage Restrictions: Only age-assured adults may speak on stage in servers.
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      toynbee@lemmy.world
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      What are "stage in servers"?

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        87six@lemmy.zip
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        Remember to review bomb it immediately once this drops

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        • P panda@lemmy.today

          Would the best alternative still be something like Matrix/Element or is there something new/better out there?

          The problem with these things is that it's really hard to convince others to move to a better platform.

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          bridgeburner@lemmy.world
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          Back in the day before Discord, people used Teamspeak, not sure if it is still around, tho.

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          • E earthman_jim@lemmy.zip

            Tom from MySpace needs to have a second coming.

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            kamen
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            He'd need to come up with something new. MySpace was sold some years ago.

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            • E exlisper@lemmy.curiana.net

              Discord’s updated privacy approach is “teen-by-default,” the company said in an announcement today. This means that, starting in March, all users on Discord will have their accounts partially restricted to the experience you’d get if you were under the age of 13.

              I'm fine with that. I don't need porn on Discord.

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              stressballs@lemmy.zip
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              #194

              Then they will decide that links to some news stories aret appropriate for kids. No more pesky videos of ICE executing people in the street.

              When do social media companies actually do anything to protect kids??

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              • U undrwater@lemmy.world

                IRC protocol is audio capable.

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                rozodru
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                welp there ya go! problem solved.

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                • I imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                  According to this article they just blocking access to adult channels and content. You may still use discord but not be able to view adult chat groups, pictures and other content if you haven't scanned your face or uploaded ID.

                  Seems fair to be honest. Children on Discord been exposed to adult content some which adults would be disgusted by. Not to count pedophilia en masse and seems to be uncontrollable. Discord was not supposed to be a tool for sharing porn anyway. Maybe it would bring some good into the situation.

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                  airowird@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  Except "for the children" as argument to give up privacy never actually works.

                  Kids will find porn elsewhere, on shadier sites with even less moderators looking out for them. This has been true since the first dirty magazine in the woods has been found. The solution isn't banning them, it's educating them to treat it in a proper way. But that ofc takes effort and doesn't let policy makers villify people.

                  Meanwhile the adults have to give up their privacy for no real effect. Or the porn makers just move to a platform without PII and we can repeat this dance again in a couple of years.

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                  • R resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                    What's dd?

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                    toynbee@lemmy.world
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                    A tool, primarily within Linux, that can overwrite disks. I've never seen it recommended for data deletion, but I guess it makes sense.

                    It stands for "disk to disk" and is usually used for things like writing ISOs.

                    However, shred is the usual approach.

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                    • T toynbee@lemmy.world

                      What are "stage in servers"?

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                      toynbee@lemmy.world
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                      My client apparently no longer allows editing or deleting, but please disregard this comment.

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                      • E excral@feddit.org

                        My discord account is about 10 years old. Do they assume I created it as a 6 year old? Account age alone should be enough to verify I'm an adult with reasonable certainty.

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                        dhork@lemmy.world
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                        Legally, they can't be sure you didn't sell the account, even if the email address is the same.

                        Not defending the policy here, it's bullshit. But I'm simply pointing out that they have excuses to beat any logic you throw at them. Logic has nothing to do with it, so it can't be beaten by logic either.

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                        • A airowird@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                          Except "for the children" as argument to give up privacy never actually works.

                          Kids will find porn elsewhere, on shadier sites with even less moderators looking out for them. This has been true since the first dirty magazine in the woods has been found. The solution isn't banning them, it's educating them to treat it in a proper way. But that ofc takes effort and doesn't let policy makers villify people.

                          Meanwhile the adults have to give up their privacy for no real effect. Or the porn makers just move to a platform without PII and we can repeat this dance again in a couple of years.

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                          imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          By your logic, we might also remove "Are you 18+?" questions from mainstream porn sites, cause children might not lie and go to a shadier site where it will not ask for their age.

                          Man. I am not even sure if Discord is better than some shady porn sites. Cause unless you are from another galaxy, you probably heard not so "child friendly" stories about what children been exposed on some lesser known discord channels. Some of the times the content is something you'd struggle to find in open web.

                          In any case, children would find explicit content anywhere else if they want to. So there is no particular reason to be afraid of ID verification since it doesn't necessary change that fact.

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                            yeahigotskills2@lemmy.world
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                            I only use the platform to manage my dodgy IPTV subscription. Presumably they'll be ditching Discord as well once they realise that they need to provide ID.

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                            • I imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              By your logic, we might also remove "Are you 18+?" questions from mainstream porn sites, cause children might not lie and go to a shadier site where it will not ask for their age.

                              Man. I am not even sure if Discord is better than some shady porn sites. Cause unless you are from another galaxy, you probably heard not so "child friendly" stories about what children been exposed on some lesser known discord channels. Some of the times the content is something you'd struggle to find in open web.

                              In any case, children would find explicit content anywhere else if they want to. So there is no particular reason to be afraid of ID verification since it doesn't necessary change that fact.

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                              airowird@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                              I'm fine with the 18+ question because it atleast explicitly requires people to know they're entering that site. You can't argue kids are exposed by accident if they click "Enter".

                              As for ID verification, I'm against it for my own privacy, if nothing else changes for kids, then what is the argument to have it for adults? (Besides authoritarian control)

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                              • D dhork@lemmy.world

                                Legally, they can't be sure you didn't sell the account, even if the email address is the same.

                                Not defending the policy here, it's bullshit. But I'm simply pointing out that they have excuses to beat any logic you throw at them. Logic has nothing to do with it, so it can't be beaten by logic either.

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                                Anas
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                                Selling accounts is against the TOS, surely they can’t be liable if that’s the case.

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                                • S shelf@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                  They won't even send a verification email to my gmail account so I can sign up.

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                                  KSP Atlas
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                                  They were suffering with email issues due to the "hug of death" effect, try again now maybe it'll work

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                                  • A airowird@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                    I'm fine with the 18+ question because it atleast explicitly requires people to know they're entering that site. You can't argue kids are exposed by accident if they click "Enter".

                                    As for ID verification, I'm against it for my own privacy, if nothing else changes for kids, then what is the argument to have it for adults? (Besides authoritarian control)

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                                    imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                    Age verification is not mandatory. Unless you want to browse NSFW content. You can ignore age verification and keep browsing adult content somewhere else.

                                    I believe many would not verify themselves, groups that do adult content would lose majority of user base. So they would move somewhere else where I assume their user base would follow.

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                                    • R resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      If the pushback on social media doesn't get Discord to drop these plans, then I'll just have to delete the app.

                                      Not caving to another app asking for Personally Identifiable Information (PII) only for this same data to be leaked months to years later.

                                      Society will do everything to protect children aside from making better parents.

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                                      korazail@lemmy.myserv.one
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                                      The parenting aspect is a red herring. Nothing about these policies is really to 'protect the children'. The big tech groups have figured out that they can gate-keep ... everything... and require your pii/data to get to it; and that many/most people will give up that data to keep access to their content.

                                      That said, teaching your children about the importance of privacy is becoming as important as teaching them about other harmful online content. "Don't trust a Nigerian prince, let me know if you're being bullied, don't watch porn* and don't scan your face to get on discord"

                                      * until you're 18-ish, at which point go nuts, just know it's all fake.

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                                      • 8 87six@lemmy.zip

                                        Not really. At the beginning it was amazing. It took 0 resources to run while gaming and the call quality was miles ahead, nevermind the flexibility around servers and what you could do with them.

                                        Then, as all things, it turned to shit once ot gained market share.

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                                        disconnectikacio@lemmy.world
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                                        It was an embedded browser embedded website crap since i know it (since 6 years), like m$ crap

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                                        • 8 87six@lemmy.zip

                                          Not really. At the beginning it was amazing. It took 0 resources to run while gaming and the call quality was miles ahead, nevermind the flexibility around servers and what you could do with them.

                                          Then, as all things, it turned to shit once ot gained market share.

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                                          korazail@lemmy.myserv.one
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                                          This is one of the real root causes of enshittification, particularly around privacy.

                                          Once a product is profitable, the profit needs to be protected. That's not really a slight against it, just a reality of capitalism. Those developers expect their jobs to persist. Middle management probably wants to keep those developers on staff. C-suite needs number-go-up to keep their jobs (fuck them, but if number-go-down then other people lose their jobs too). Adhering to regulations limits the risk of the government suing the company to oblivion.

                                          Discord has been big enough for a while that it needs to be aware of the legal and political landscape in order to survive. This is just them limiting their risk. It will cost them customers -- sort of: I'm gone, and have been since September when they updated their TOS, but I've also never given them any money and I've never seen an ad other than theirs. I've been nothing but a cost, so maybe good riddance?

                                          Discord is not the enemy here. The enemy is congress/parliament and the power grabs they keep enacting. Big Tech has captured our governments and wants our data. The 'for the children' angle is such a trope that everyone who isn't a potato can see through it, and we need to tell our leaders that this isn't acceptable.

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