Discord will restrict your account next month unless you scan ID or face
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You do know that it's bullshit? Unless they're incredibly incompetent they're lying to you. If the data never leaves the client then all the checks are client-side, which means it's relatively easy (compared to a server side check) to bypass those checks.
Afaik the files exfiltrated were photos that the on device detection could not identify and were uploaded to verify server side. That would mean not all pictures are sent to the backend, and that corroborates why "only" 70k photos were stolen when discord has millions of users verified.
Of course you have to put your trust in a closed source system so best not to upload, but if true it's still a far cry from openly lying about it. It's probably explicitly stated in their ToS that they may upload the file if the verification fails client side. -
This is one of the real root causes of enshittification, particularly around privacy.
Once a product is profitable, the profit needs to be protected. That's not really a slight against it, just a reality of capitalism. Those developers expect their jobs to persist. Middle management probably wants to keep those developers on staff. C-suite needs number-go-up to keep their jobs (fuck them, but if number-go-down then other people lose their jobs too). Adhering to regulations limits the risk of the government suing the company to oblivion.
Discord has been big enough for a while that it needs to be aware of the legal and political landscape in order to survive. This is just them limiting their risk. It will cost them customers -- sort of: I'm gone, and have been since September when they updated their TOS, but I've also never given them any money and I've never seen an ad other than theirs. I've been nothing but a cost, so maybe good riddance?
Discord is not the enemy here. The enemy is congress/parliament and the power grabs they keep enacting. Big Tech has captured our governments and wants our data. The 'for the children' angle is such a trope that everyone who isn't a potato can see through it, and we need to tell our leaders that this isn't acceptable.
I agree with everything you said, but Discord is also an asshole itself. It could not sell out, but it did. There are plenty of projects who kept their integrity against selling out even though they could've generated millions
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Let's protect the children by scanning everyone's face and ID and uploading them to a server that'll get hacked five years from now.
Disclaimer: I don't like Discord and stopped using it years ago. And this announcement is just another step on the road to enshittification. It's a shit corporation going public and becoming more shit in the process. Simply don't use their shit.
However, it seems a bit rage-baity to claim that Discord will require age verification for all users. That simply doesn't seem to be true. Age verification will be required for users who don't feel the basic features are enough. Were I still dumb enough to use Discord, I don't think I'd feel the need to go for the age verified account.
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It was an embedded browser embedded website crap since i know it (since 6 years), like m$ crap
Well yes, it was, but it worked, and it was still better than everything else. I've been on discord for 9 years.
Embedded browsers aren't necessarily bad design. They're super fast to develop, and if done well, can work super efficiently. A browser can have a billion tabs open and work just fine. The same can go with an electron app given that the devs give 2 shits about optimization.
Though if the Discord team doesn't care about optimizing the electron app, they wouldn't give a shit about optimizing a desktop app either.
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I mean, I share the complaint of Discord having tons of unindexable knowledge locked away in it, but forums are not good replacement for my friend group. So yeah we kinda want a Discord alternative specifically.
Matrix is great for this. Fluffy chat is a client that even uses jitsi for video chats
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It sucks that many projects that I am interested in, such as Touhoumon Puppet Dance Encore and assorted hentai projects that are on the platform. For now, I put up with it - but I am very much hoping alternatives are adopted by creators.
I'm worried about the one open source porn game that's been slowly getting revived over the years. This will probably kill it as the only dev activity was in the discord.
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I'm very interested in this question too. I tried Mumble but it looks like it does not support screen streaming which honestly is pretty good. 99% of my discord use since I stopped playing wow is just hanging around with 3 friends of mine and speaking about crap. We like to play or watch movies together and it's nice to be able to share stuff.
Same, screen sharing in a group chat is a must. Been looking at Matrix/Element but it looks like hell to set up and maintain and I'm the only one with the setup to run it.
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I only use the platform to manage my dodgy IPTV subscription. Presumably they'll be ditching Discord as well once they realise that they need to provide ID.
There are dodgy alternatives that require nothing of the sort.
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My discord account is about 10 years old. Do they assume I created it as a 6 year old? Account age alone should be enough to verify I'm an adult with reasonable certainty.
Naw, they assume they can tie all your conversations to some nexus realid and sell all your groups, likes, and dislikes for cash.
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Discord was always an overhyped crap.
I had to run a server for work. It was right after they put in boosts. At the time, I had to buy my own fucking boosts one at a time.
The whole platform only exists because they made the api easy enough that people could build on it.
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Back in the day before Discord, people used Teamspeak, not sure if it is still around, tho.
Teamspeak is still out there and I use it regularly. Since I've never cared about the posting aspect of discord they offer the exact same services.
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I hope there is a mass exodus from discord!
already making plans with my battle group t move to team speak 6, which is only an option because they now have screen sharing
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already making plans with my battle group t move to team speak 6, which is only an option because they now have screen sharing
Good that there are alternatives but I bet that won't last for long. More and more apps will copy this.
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Are you surprised that the blunt instrument of boomer legislation is operating without the nuance you'd like?
Did you hit your head? Do we need to call someone for you?
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Matrix is great for this. Fluffy chat is a client that even uses jitsi for video chats
Does it work on Linux?
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I had to run a server for work. It was right after they put in boosts. At the time, I had to buy my own fucking boosts one at a time.
The whole platform only exists because they made the api easy enough that people could build on it.
You run a Discord server for work? I thought my company using Google was crazy.
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The general comment and title is simply untrue. They will require verification in cases of known adult or censored content, and in NSFW channels and servers. "Regular" content and spaces are untouched.
That said, I give it 6-10 months before it's required for all users regardless of content access.
You're blatantly ignoring how these laws are actually implemented and assessing them instead by taking the lies of their authors at face value.
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Wouldn't that significantly destroy their user base? Most servers I have seen it talked about the feeling seems to be not a fucking chance but we don't use this for porn anyway.
I would love to see a popular alternative appear from this.
Queer people are pornographic according to the authors of these laws
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I'm actually pretty happy that Discord is killing itself. Far too many people use it as an official platform for stuff like help forums.
Maybe lets go back to basic message boards that are actually searchable, etc.
Well there is that one nsfw forum that is VERY active. Said forum also provides a list of file hosters that have escaped enshittification.
Those guys pirate the shit out of Japanese games but official nsfw game developers sometimes go there to advertise.
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Discord’s updated privacy approach is “teen-by-default,” the company said in an announcement today. This means that, starting in March, all users on Discord will have their accounts partially restricted to the experience you’d get if you were under the age of 13.
I'm fine with that. I don't need porn on Discord.
Are you one of those pornographic people? Large swathes of the population are considered intrinsically pornographic by the authors of these laws. Queer people are walking talking pornography simply for existing. Also most politics and any news dealing with violent events is pornographic.
Have you ever shared a story about police brutality? You are a pornographer.
