Discord will restrict your account next month unless you scan ID or face
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The only way to get around this would be to verify your age, which Discord says can be accomplished in one of two ways. The first is to “submit a form of identification” to Discord vendors (i.e. scan your physical ID), or to use “facial age estimation.” Discord says that the latter process happens fully on-device, as “video selfies for facial age estimation never leave a user’s device.” For ID scans, Discord says that documents “are deleted quickly.”
Between the features that are limiting being almost entirely things I don't want anyway (random friend invites are literally just fucking scams and ads to begin with), and the entire process being completed on-device... What is this, some slow news day? Everyone is losing their minds about this being some insane overstep like Discord is asking for a blood sample, or even a photo of your driver's license.
Don't get me wrong, fuck this age verification nonsense, but it's pretty clear this is some very specific government regulatory appeasement where Discord is attempting to avoid culpability for holding data at basically every joint possible. They already have the useful, farmable data, like geolocation, age/gender demographics and interests. They don't want our government ID. They only want a "yes" or "no" from their app.
Must be a slow news day. Everyone's blowing this up in headlines for cheap clicks.
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The only way to get around this would be to verify your age, which Discord says can be accomplished in one of two ways. The first is to “submit a form of identification” to Discord vendors (i.e. scan your physical ID), or to use “facial age estimation.” Discord says that the latter process happens fully on-device, as “video selfies for facial age estimation never leave a user’s device.” For ID scans, Discord says that documents “are deleted quickly.”
Between the features that are limiting being almost entirely things I don't want anyway (random friend invites are literally just fucking scams and ads to begin with), and the entire process being completed on-device... What is this, some slow news day? Everyone is losing their minds about this being some insane overstep like Discord is asking for a blood sample, or even a photo of your driver's license.
Don't get me wrong, fuck this age verification nonsense, but it's pretty clear this is some very specific government regulatory appeasement where Discord is attempting to avoid culpability for holding data at basically every joint possible. They already have the useful, farmable data, like geolocation, age/gender demographics and interests. They don't want our government ID. They only want a "yes" or "no" from their app.
Must be a slow news day. Everyone's blowing this up in headlines for cheap clicks.
Don’t get me wrong, fuck this age verification nonsense, but it’s pretty clear this is some very specific government regulatory appeasement where Discord is attempting to avoid culpability for holding data at basically every joint possible.
That's 100% what it is. It also sincerely makes me not want to use Discord, because even if this is what governments want, it's extremely bad for users.
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Stoat it is lol (https://stoat.chat)
This project looks interesting, i might try it. As i undesrtand, its designed around all of the basic discord features, and nothing else that nobody asked for.
The cool thing about being foss project, is if the developers for some reason become too greedy (lets be real, its true for foss), the next exact second there will be a new fork created, a new team formed, a new server hosted, and all of the users will move to it instantly.
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For ID scans, Discord says that documents “are deleted quickly.”
Just a few months ago they had a data leak which proved that they were indeed /not/ deleting documents and ID's like they had been claiming.
Granted in that case it was mostly countries that force keeping that data but, I'm sick of companies lying and saying "lol yea we defo delete the data after"
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Do you have any suggestions for a better/open-source alternative?
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Don’t get me wrong, fuck this age verification nonsense, but it’s pretty clear this is some very specific government regulatory appeasement where Discord is attempting to avoid culpability for holding data at basically every joint possible.
That's 100% what it is. It also sincerely makes me not want to use Discord, because even if this is what governments want, it's extremely bad for users.
I'm waiting for some government to outlaw collecting the information in general outside of official government agencies. I would love to see big tech squirm as they try to figure out a valid way to harvest the data in one country, but prevent it in another.
Honestly it sounds like an amazing way to rack of fine money due to violation notices.
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Do you have any suggestions for a better/open-source alternative?
A few mentioned here, with them recommending mumble
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As a matrix user and a former discord user (4 years ago), i can say that matrix just sucks compared to amount of features even 4 year old discord had.
Unless there will be an alternative social networks which do all the basic discord features like: large communities, channels, voice/video chats, roles, bots; and it does it all well, than nobody will move off discord.
People would rather tolerate significant anti-features if software has lots of features, than tolerate lack of features despite not having anti-features.
Matrix can literally do everything you just mentioned. It’s clunky, but it works.
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Teamspeak and Vent, now is your time to shine.
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Nice. Now when someone tries to make me use discord, I'll have a better excuse than "I hate it"
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Matrix can literally do everything you just mentioned. It’s clunky, but it works.
Thats why i said "and it does it all well".
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Let's protect the children by scanning everyone's face and ID and uploading them to a server that'll get hacked five years from now.
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The only way to get around this would be to verify your age, which Discord says can be accomplished in one of two ways. The first is to “submit a form of identification” to Discord vendors (i.e. scan your physical ID), or to use “facial age estimation.” Discord says that the latter process happens fully on-device, as “video selfies for facial age estimation never leave a user’s device.” For ID scans, Discord says that documents “are deleted quickly.”
Between the features that are limiting being almost entirely things I don't want anyway (random friend invites are literally just fucking scams and ads to begin with), and the entire process being completed on-device... What is this, some slow news day? Everyone is losing their minds about this being some insane overstep like Discord is asking for a blood sample, or even a photo of your driver's license.
Don't get me wrong, fuck this age verification nonsense, but it's pretty clear this is some very specific government regulatory appeasement where Discord is attempting to avoid culpability for holding data at basically every joint possible. They already have the useful, farmable data, like geolocation, age/gender demographics and interests. They don't want our government ID. They only want a "yes" or "no" from their app.
Must be a slow news day. Everyone's blowing this up in headlines for cheap clicks.
I might consider the facial verification thing if someone fulfills a security audit that both verifies the photo is never sent, encrypted or not, and it does not stay on the device’s drive.
But yeah, part of me hopes some number of privacy focused companies will just abandon business in these locations and claim “It’s only a matter of time before they reverse course for security failures, we will just wait until then.”
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For ID scans, Discord says that documents “are deleted quickly.”
Just a few months ago they had a data leak which proved that they were indeed /not/ deleting documents and ID's like they had been claiming.
Granted in that case it was mostly countries that force keeping that data but, I'm sick of companies lying and saying "lol yea we defo delete the data after"
I won't even give hard drives when recycling a computer, I pull and smash myself. Last set of old drives I cut in half with bolt cutters.
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Let's protect the children by scanning everyone's face and ID and uploading them to a server that'll get hacked five years from now.
And said data will never be used for fake CSAM or a library for the powerful to handpick their next victims
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Hope this will mass exodus into Matrix, like it happened with Twitter / X.
doubt it. better off just setting up channels in libera chat on IRC and doin voice via teamspeak/mumble like we used to do it back in the day.
shit, someone needs to bring back ICQ.
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Well, looks like I'm leaving discord.
Sure.
But what are you replacing it with ?
I tried Mumble and Teamspeak in the past and it's pretty far from the same level of comfort.
Don't take that the wrong way though, I'm all for supporting open alternatives, I'm just saying you have to think about the features of the alternatives too.
I just saw something about Stoat.chat which seems like a good open source software for that application but a lot of people will have to bear the cost of self hosting these servers.
I know I will think carefully before slamming the door on discord.
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Thats why i said "and it does it all well".
It does it well, it’s just clunky. It works perfectly fine, and I recommend it over discord ang day of the week. Except Tuesdays. Tuesdays I recommend IRC.
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That sounds more like the Discord I know.
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Whelp. US based tech is going to shit. Bail now before your data becomes state property.
