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Netflix says users can cancel service if HBO Max merger makes it too expensive

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  • B baatliwala@lemmy.world

    What has Netflix enshittified? Ad supported viewing is a completely different tier and arguably they have provided even more value by bundling in mobile games that are completely ad and micro transaction free. Price increases don't even count as enshittification.

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    corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    Is it irony to quote all the enshittification steps and then demonstrate you know nothing about enshittification by saying they're good things?

    If they were value-added features, we could opt-out and pay the same (plus inflation) without them. None of the extra shit has any value to my house, for instance.

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      Raynkire
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      Personally I cancelled both of these services. Services just got worse and cost more, I can't imagine a merger is going to make that situation any better. I have CBC and I kept Paramount because it was 50% off annually for black friday and I enjoy Star Trek. The rest I either find other means to watch or happily do without.

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        etterra@discuss.online
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        Too late, I cancelled Netflix years ago.

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        • C corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca

          Is it irony to quote all the enshittification steps and then demonstrate you know nothing about enshittification by saying they're good things?

          If they were value-added features, we could opt-out and pay the same (plus inflation) without them. None of the extra shit has any value to my house, for instance.

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          baatliwala@lemmy.world
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          I never implied they're good, I implied it's not enshittification. There's a difference.

          If they were value-added features, we could opt-out and pay the same (plus inflation) without them.

          This doesn't even make sense because they were added to your account at no charge. That means they would actually have to decrease the price if you want to exclude them.

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            greenwizard@midwest.social
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            I actually love the "watch free" channels on my TV. It's full of obscure stuff like 1970s gameshows, This Old House episodes, random old weird direct-to-video movies.

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            • C ConstableJelly

              This was exactly the way I thought of my spending habits for a long time. Then a few years ago, Netflix prohibited password sharing, a soft feature they had specifically encouraged in the past, with the explicit purpose of desperately generating additional revenue as other growth streams plateaued. When most users just kind of accepted it, the dam broke and all the other services followed suit.

              That was the final straw for me, on top of the proliferation of dedicated per-studio services, price hikes, and pricing tiers that created needless feature lock-outs. As a consumer I get dicked around in every sector in which I'm forced to participate, but this is one sector where I have an option to withdraw from the dicking.

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              kekzkrieger@feddit.org
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              However the netflix share went up up up after the change cause they made more money because people kept buying their service anyways. We tend to live so much in a bubble, i cancelled too, but people accept too much shit.

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              • G greenwizard@midwest.social

                I actually love the "watch free" channels on my TV. It's full of obscure stuff like 1970s gameshows, This Old House episodes, random old weird direct-to-video movies.

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                Guy Ingonito
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                Pluto has two channels just fot Star Trek and TNG

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                • V village604@adultswim.fan

                  Netflix doesn't really control the content that other creators allow on their service, so point 3 is moot

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                  Guy Ingonito
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                  They kind of did though. When Netflix decided to produce their own content, studios understood that Netflix would prioritize it's own content in the algorithm so they all scrambled to make their own platforms.

                  If Netflix had been content staying a distributor, we'd all still have everything available all on the one app.

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                  • Guy IngonitoK Guy Ingonito

                    They kind of did though. When Netflix decided to produce their own content, studios understood that Netflix would prioritize it's own content in the algorithm so they all scrambled to make their own platforms.

                    If Netflix had been content staying a distributor, we'd all still have everything available all on the one app.

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                    village604@adultswim.fan
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                    Content disappearing was an issue before they started making their own. Netflix's initial popularity is why everyone decided to make their own service.

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                    • P pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip

                      This 100%.

                      It has been a weird journey for me, from "Netflix is elevating all of these great comedies!" To Netflix is buying competitors to keep every creator vulnerable.

                      That said, Dropout, Nebula and Curiosity Stream all seem pretty ethical toward creators. I think the combination of all three costs less than Netflix. (Though I've been on the Netflix boycott for awhile now.)

                      Also, I can't get over Dropout's ad series encouraging users to share a password to let someone try DropOut. Boss move.

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                      rainwall
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                      Game changers alone has so much joy in it, I want to give those maniacs money.

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                        cpmsp@midwest.social
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                        You got it.

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                          don_alforno@feddit.org
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                          "Well, people are of course free to not use our service even after we gain a monopoly on all entertainment".

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                            whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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                            I am genuinely impressed by my local library's collection of DVDs. Rows upon rows upon rows. I just went the other day and was overwhelmed, in a good way.

                            I still sail the high seas for things I can't find elsewhere, but boy is it nice to pop a free DVD into my Playstation without the hassle of transferring files.

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                              The fuck they will!

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                                You can pirate their content, too! 🏴‍☠️🦜

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                                • G gjoel@programming.dev

                                  I'm not sure that's really enshittification. It's not so much a way to deteriorate the service to make money as it is an attempt to accommodate the habits of the viewers. I totally agree that we're getting super bad content that's only mildly entertaining if you're doing 2-3 other things while watching, but that's the demographic they believe they have.

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                                  swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                  so.. what difference does it make?

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                                    I actually love the "watch free" channels on my TV. It's full of obscure stuff like 1970s gameshows, This Old House episodes, random old weird direct-to-video movies.

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                                    swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                    fucking axess TV that's just random orchestras half the time

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                                      so.. what difference does it make?

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                                      gjoel@programming.dev
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                                      It's just a matter of what it is. The end product is still garbage, but to me enshittification is the process of making the platform worse by one way or another monetising the users, like adding ads and promoting content that while not in the interest of the users will retain them (such as ragebait on Faceboo). In this case they make the content worse because they believe it will attract customers.

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