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  • F fyrilsol

    To clarify, if I was introducing someone to the Diablo series for the first time and told them they'd have to start on the first one. I wouldn't want them playing the bare vanilla version. There is a Bezelbub mod out there that gives the game lots of QoL improvements, you'd be thinking you're playing a build of Diablo 2 before its final version.

    So, if I had to tell anyone what the best way to play that game would be, it is the Bezelbub mod. That was how I've beaten the first game anyways.

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    DrSleepless
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    Whichever way is most fun

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    • F fyrilsol

      To clarify, if I was introducing someone to the Diablo series for the first time and told them they'd have to start on the first one. I wouldn't want them playing the bare vanilla version. There is a Bezelbub mod out there that gives the game lots of QoL improvements, you'd be thinking you're playing a build of Diablo 2 before its final version.

      So, if I had to tell anyone what the best way to play that game would be, it is the Bezelbub mod. That was how I've beaten the first game anyways.

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      missingno
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      For Chrono Trigger, definitely don't play the original SNES localization. No disrespect to Ted Woolsey, he was one man working on an unreasonably tight deadline and hard technical limitations, but the retranslation is much better.

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      • Q quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world

        There are a host of open source remakes of old game engines that fix bugs and update them for modern systems as well as add support for higher resolutions and widescreen aspect ratios. Here's a few off the top of my head:

        • OpenMW for The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. This is probably the most famous one.
        • Daggerfall Unity for The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall.
        • OpenRA for Red Alert, Tiberian Dawn, Dune 2000, and (in pre-alpha form) Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2 (the latter requiring extra fiddling with Github repositories).
        • KeeperFX for Dungeon Keeper.
        • OpenRCT2 for Roller Coaster Tycoon 2.
        • OpenTTD for Transport Tycoon Deluxe.
        • OpenJKDF2 for Dark Forces 2 and its standalone Mysteries of the Sith expansion.
        • Arx Libertatis for Arx Fatalis, though IIRC the version sold now integrates an older build of it; one without the fixes for glyph drawing - it's worth upgrading for that alone as spellcasting is a nightmare without the fix.
        • TRX for Tomb Raider I and II.
        • Tfix, T2Fix, and the Sneaky Upgrade for Thief 1/2/3 respectively. These are mods, not wholesale engine replacements, but serve the same purpose.

        These are just the ones I know of. There are probably loads more.

        Edit: the Ur-Quan Masters for Star Control II. I can't believe I forgot about this! Star Control II is one of the best and most influential games that most people have never heard about.

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        yermaw@sh.itjust.works
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        Aaaaand saved. Thanks!

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        • F fyrilsol

          To clarify, if I was introducing someone to the Diablo series for the first time and told them they'd have to start on the first one. I wouldn't want them playing the bare vanilla version. There is a Bezelbub mod out there that gives the game lots of QoL improvements, you'd be thinking you're playing a build of Diablo 2 before its final version.

          So, if I had to tell anyone what the best way to play that game would be, it is the Bezelbub mod. That was how I've beaten the first game anyways.

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          Funnynate08
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          Pokemon Red at 10fps on a gateway laptop circa 2004

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          • Y yermaw@sh.itjust.works

            Aaaaand saved. Thanks!

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            peffse@lemmy.world
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            https://osgameclones.com/

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            • F fyrilsol

              To clarify, if I was introducing someone to the Diablo series for the first time and told them they'd have to start on the first one. I wouldn't want them playing the bare vanilla version. There is a Bezelbub mod out there that gives the game lots of QoL improvements, you'd be thinking you're playing a build of Diablo 2 before its final version.

              So, if I had to tell anyone what the best way to play that game would be, it is the Bezelbub mod. That was how I've beaten the first game anyways.

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              bitflip@lemmy.ml
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              There's something like 20 versions of Machaarior 2. Dos versions are the best.

              https://mech2.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=281

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                Should I put the RAM back in?

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                • F fyrilsol

                  To clarify, if I was introducing someone to the Diablo series for the first time and told them they'd have to start on the first one. I wouldn't want them playing the bare vanilla version. There is a Bezelbub mod out there that gives the game lots of QoL improvements, you'd be thinking you're playing a build of Diablo 2 before its final version.

                  So, if I had to tell anyone what the best way to play that game would be, it is the Bezelbub mod. That was how I've beaten the first game anyways.

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                  regrettable_incident@lemmy.world
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                  Silent Hill - alone, in the dark.

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                  • N neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                    I have been thinking of whether there was a pokemon mod that does something like this.

                    I’d like something that gets rid of trade evolutions and puts all 151 in a single game.

                    I’m sure it’s out there. So, I guess that’s my half assed attempt at an answer.

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                    UntimedDiffusion
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                    A modder named Drayano has pretty much defined this category of ROM hack and I think has his own version of every major game from generations 3-6

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                    • Q quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world

                      There are a host of open source remakes of old game engines that fix bugs and update them for modern systems as well as add support for higher resolutions and widescreen aspect ratios. Here's a few off the top of my head:

                      • OpenMW for The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. This is probably the most famous one.
                      • Daggerfall Unity for The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall.
                      • OpenRA for Red Alert, Tiberian Dawn, Dune 2000, and (in pre-alpha form) Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2 (the latter requiring extra fiddling with Github repositories).
                      • KeeperFX for Dungeon Keeper.
                      • OpenRCT2 for Roller Coaster Tycoon 2.
                      • OpenTTD for Transport Tycoon Deluxe.
                      • OpenJKDF2 for Dark Forces 2 and its standalone Mysteries of the Sith expansion.
                      • Arx Libertatis for Arx Fatalis, though IIRC the version sold now integrates an older build of it; one without the fixes for glyph drawing - it's worth upgrading for that alone as spellcasting is a nightmare without the fix.
                      • TRX for Tomb Raider I and II.
                      • Tfix, T2Fix, and the Sneaky Upgrade for Thief 1/2/3 respectively. These are mods, not wholesale engine replacements, but serve the same purpose.

                      These are just the ones I know of. There are probably loads more.

                      Edit: the Ur-Quan Masters for Star Control II. I can't believe I forgot about this! Star Control II is one of the best and most influential games that most people have never heard about.

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                      wax@feddit.nu
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                      Adding two more

                      OpenJazz (Jazz Jackrabbit)

                      fheroes2 (Heroes of Might and Magic 2)

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                      • BurgerBaronB BurgerBaron

                        First off, here's a big list of unofficial ports:

                        https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_unofficial_ports

                        Dhewm 3 for Doom 3. Just updates the game engine to run better on modern hardware since id tech 4 is open source. Mod support sort of, not every mod is compatible. They helpfully list those that do here: https://dhewm3.org/mods.html

                        The Sims 2 High DPI patch, self explanatory:
                        https://github.com/lah7/sims2-4k-ui-patch

                        VCMI - Heroes of Might and Magic 3 open source engine/game extension. Has a built in mod manager, really handy: https://vcmi.eu/

                        Coming soon / WIP: I'm excited to play this port of the MS-DOS game Albion when it reaches feature parity with the original:

                        https://github.com/csinkers/ualbion

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                        brsrklf@jlai.lu
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                        Does VCMI includes the ability to play the original campaigns with everything they had, on whatever language they were installed? It's not clear in their FAQ.

                        I tried installing the original with HD mod through lutris on a PC I am converting to linux, only to discover HD mod just doesn't support the French version of the game.

                        Lutris apparently passes down the system language to the installer with no option to change it. I'm sure there is a way to change the install script, but I haven't really looked into it yet.

                        If there's a way to pass down the French version in VCMI and get about the same improvements HD mod provides, and get all that to run natively, maybe I won't have to.

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                        • B bitflip@lemmy.ml

                          There's something like 20 versions of Machaarior 2. Dos versions are the best.

                          https://mech2.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=281

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                          dubyakay@lemmy.ca
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                          Pyre Light intensifies

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                          • F fyrilsol

                            To clarify, if I was introducing someone to the Diablo series for the first time and told them they'd have to start on the first one. I wouldn't want them playing the bare vanilla version. There is a Bezelbub mod out there that gives the game lots of QoL improvements, you'd be thinking you're playing a build of Diablo 2 before its final version.

                            So, if I had to tell anyone what the best way to play that game would be, it is the Bezelbub mod. That was how I've beaten the first game anyways.

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                            mech@feddit.org
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                            The definitive way to play Skyrim is to take a shot every time someone says "dragon".

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                            • M mech@feddit.org

                              The definitive way to play Skyrim is to take a shot every time someone says "dragon".

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                              Recommending that might be tantamount to manslaughter. Better check with a lawyer first.

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                              • F fyrilsol

                                To clarify, if I was introducing someone to the Diablo series for the first time and told them they'd have to start on the first one. I wouldn't want them playing the bare vanilla version. There is a Bezelbub mod out there that gives the game lots of QoL improvements, you'd be thinking you're playing a build of Diablo 2 before its final version.

                                So, if I had to tell anyone what the best way to play that game would be, it is the Bezelbub mod. That was how I've beaten the first game anyways.

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                                thundercomplex@lemmy.today
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                                For League of Legends the definitive way to play is to not start. I swear I do not know of any other game that has such addictive properties while being so absolutely fucking awful. You don’t stop playing this game, You take extended breaks.
                                Friends don’t let friends play League

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                                • C c8r9vwdutey3zufqryvq@sopuli.xyz

                                  Recommending that might be tantamount to manslaughter. Better check with a lawyer first.

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                                  mech@feddit.org
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                                  OK, what about "eat the same things your character eats"?

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                                  • N neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                    I have been thinking of whether there was a pokemon mod that does something like this.

                                    I’d like something that gets rid of trade evolutions and puts all 151 in a single game.

                                    I’m sure it’s out there. So, I guess that’s my half assed attempt at an answer.

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                                    odo@lemmy.world
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                                    There's one called simply Pokemon Blue - 151.

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                                    • F fyrilsol

                                      To clarify, if I was introducing someone to the Diablo series for the first time and told them they'd have to start on the first one. I wouldn't want them playing the bare vanilla version. There is a Bezelbub mod out there that gives the game lots of QoL improvements, you'd be thinking you're playing a build of Diablo 2 before its final version.

                                      So, if I had to tell anyone what the best way to play that game would be, it is the Bezelbub mod. That was how I've beaten the first game anyways.

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                                      mohab
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                                      Devil May Cry 3 sucks balls without the style switcher mod. Combat and combo routes feel so limited.

                                      They eventually added a style switcher to the last re-release, but that's stuck on the Switch. My recommendation will be to either play the Switch version or mod it on PC.

                                      I personally don't like the OG trilogy as much as DMC fans do, so I'd probably recommend DMC4 or 5 as an entry point anyway.

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                                      • N neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                        I have been thinking of whether there was a pokemon mod that does something like this.

                                        I’d like something that gets rid of trade evolutions and puts all 151 in a single game.

                                        I’m sure it’s out there. So, I guess that’s my half assed attempt at an answer.

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                                        smeg@feddit.uk
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                                        Have a search for "universal pokémon randomiser" (there are apparently loads of different forks of it now), it's main feature is to randomise which pokémon you encounter, their types, moves, etc, but you could skip that and just set "change trade evolutions" and "catch em all mode" to get exactly what you want. I would recommend playing it randomised though!

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                                        • C c8r9vwdutey3zufqryvq@sopuli.xyz

                                          Recommending that might be tantamount to manslaughter. Better check with a lawyer first.

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                                          mech@feddit.org
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                                          Quick question: Did you get the password and username fields mixed up when you made your Sopuli account?

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