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'Colony Ship is a Dark Christian Sci-fi RPG' - Warlockracy

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  • J jumbie@lemmy.zip

    You realize you just described escapism in that second paragraph?

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    prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    #15

    Ok... And I assume you know what "and/or" means? Understanding and contextualizing is not escapism.

    And coping with isn't necessarily escapism either.

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    • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

      Ok... And I assume you know what "and/or" means? Understanding and contextualizing is not escapism.

      And coping with isn't necessarily escapism either.

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      jumbie@lemmy.zip
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      I see. So what is escapism to you?

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      • J jumbie@lemmy.zip

        I see. So what is escapism to you?

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        prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I mean, it's in the word... I don't want to think about the thing at all, let alone try to understand it.

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          It's not a "Christian game", its a game where the setting is a violent, fractured place and Christianity has a large in-universe footprint, influencing factions.

          Iron Tower Studio games makes quite good RPGs.

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          46_and_2@lemmy.world
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          Iron Tower's "Age of Decadence" was quite good, if a bit clunky and hampered by Unity limitations. Will check this out.

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          • J jumbie@lemmy.zip

            Art is escapism. Otherwise it’d be a structure instead of architecture.

            There, I explained it to you.

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            teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
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            #19

            This feels like you're doing the "qualityslop" troll lol.

            I think you could make art that is escapist in theme, but by definition escapism is any effort you make to "escape" your reality, or the reality of the human condition. In contrast, the value of art is that it gives us a way to communicate about our reality and/or the human condition using a language that lives past literal interpretation.

            Art doesn't help us to escape our reality, it specifically embraces it and helps us understand and communicate about it. Art is the opposite of escapism.

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            • T teawrecks@sopuli.xyz

              This feels like you're doing the "qualityslop" troll lol.

              I think you could make art that is escapist in theme, but by definition escapism is any effort you make to "escape" your reality, or the reality of the human condition. In contrast, the value of art is that it gives us a way to communicate about our reality and/or the human condition using a language that lives past literal interpretation.

              Art doesn't help us to escape our reality, it specifically embraces it and helps us understand and communicate about it. Art is the opposite of escapism.

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              jumbie@lemmy.zip
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              #20

              You’re throwing contradictory definitions into the same thought. Your second paragraph specifically contradicts your conclusion, for example.

              I’m sure plenty of people assume that someone having an opposite idea from them is a “troll,” but you seem smarter than the usual Reddit reject.

              Are you really not seeing what I’m pointing to or are you the one being a troll?

              Escapism: Using any method to interpret reality instead of directly facing said reality.

              So, if you’re using art to interpret the reality it portrays, you are directly engaging in escapism. Simpler: If you’re looking at a picture of a tree and using your imagination to marry it to the real thing, that is escapism. If you were not doing escapism, you’d go stare at the actual tree.

              How strong is this whiskey?

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              • J jumbie@lemmy.zip

                You’re throwing contradictory definitions into the same thought. Your second paragraph specifically contradicts your conclusion, for example.

                I’m sure plenty of people assume that someone having an opposite idea from them is a “troll,” but you seem smarter than the usual Reddit reject.

                Are you really not seeing what I’m pointing to or are you the one being a troll?

                Escapism: Using any method to interpret reality instead of directly facing said reality.

                So, if you’re using art to interpret the reality it portrays, you are directly engaging in escapism. Simpler: If you’re looking at a picture of a tree and using your imagination to marry it to the real thing, that is escapism. If you were not doing escapism, you’d go stare at the actual tree.

                How strong is this whiskey?

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                teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
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                #21

                Escapism: Using any method to interpret reality instead of directly facing said reality.

                Interesting. I've never heard anyone attempt to define escapism like that. Where are you getting this definition?

                Or from the other side, what word would you use to mean,

                habitual diversion of the mind to purely imaginative activity or entertainment as an escape from reality or routine

                Hopefully you agree that "purely imaginative...escape from reality" is distinct from "any method to interpret reality".

                If you’re looking at a picture of a tree and using your imagination to marry it to the real thing, that is escapism.

                What if I told you that looking at a real tree is an act of using your imagination to marry it to reality? Consider that humans looked at the moon and stars every day for centuries before we understood what they were in reality. Some people still do to this today.

                Regardless of whether you're considering something in front of you or a concept in abstract, if you're attempting to grapple with the nature of reality, you are most certainly not engaging in escapism.

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                • T teawrecks@sopuli.xyz

                  Escapism: Using any method to interpret reality instead of directly facing said reality.

                  Interesting. I've never heard anyone attempt to define escapism like that. Where are you getting this definition?

                  Or from the other side, what word would you use to mean,

                  habitual diversion of the mind to purely imaginative activity or entertainment as an escape from reality or routine

                  Hopefully you agree that "purely imaginative...escape from reality" is distinct from "any method to interpret reality".

                  If you’re looking at a picture of a tree and using your imagination to marry it to the real thing, that is escapism.

                  What if I told you that looking at a real tree is an act of using your imagination to marry it to reality? Consider that humans looked at the moon and stars every day for centuries before we understood what they were in reality. Some people still do to this today.

                  Regardless of whether you're considering something in front of you or a concept in abstract, if you're attempting to grapple with the nature of reality, you are most certainly not engaging in escapism.

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                  jumbie@lemmy.zip
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                  #22

                  My logic is sound and attempting to parse it leads you right back to my original statement.

                  If you’re going to get philosophical then I’d want to know what reality you’re trying to escape by doing so. Might I offer the chance to go look at a tree?

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                  • J jumbie@lemmy.zip

                    My logic is sound and attempting to parse it leads you right back to my original statement.

                    If you’re going to get philosophical then I’d want to know what reality you’re trying to escape by doing so. Might I offer the chance to go look at a tree?

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                    teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
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                    #23

                    Yeah, I am interested in understanding your world view, and am trying to ask direct questions about it so I can understand it better (such as how you arrived at your definition of escapism), but if that's not something that interests you, and you'd rather stoop to ad hominem jabs (like telling me I'm drunk, or to touch grass/look at trees), then we can call it here. Your call.

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                    • T teawrecks@sopuli.xyz

                      Yeah, I am interested in understanding your world view, and am trying to ask direct questions about it so I can understand it better (such as how you arrived at your definition of escapism), but if that's not something that interests you, and you'd rather stoop to ad hominem jabs (like telling me I'm drunk, or to touch grass/look at trees), then we can call it here. Your call.

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                      jumbie@lemmy.zip
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                      I’ve already answered all your questions if you read to understand instead of read to argue.

                      I know you’re assuming I’m just being difficult but I’m rolling my eyes at how obvious it is, the thing you refuse to see.

                      In a way, that’s probably . . . Escapism on your part.

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