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  • D dangling_cat

    People are fleeing to another close source centralized app thatโ€™s not federated. People will use anything but Fediverse. ๐Ÿ˜ž

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    SamXavia
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    #91

    One of the reasons will simply be because the Fediverse doesn't really have a marketing budget or an easy way to get into it, We are decentralized by design but we need a way to explain that as well as tell people about why they should be using this instead of another cash grab centralized app.

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    • SamXaviaS SamXavia

      @rumba This is where we need to showcase things like Patreon and other ways of people making money from people who truly enjoy there work, pay people not corporations.

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      rumba@lemmy.zip
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      now go convince all those creators making a living that have both youtube and patreon money coming in to post on a free only alternative and just go to patreon income.

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      • R rumba@lemmy.zip

        80% the people on TT, YT and IG are there to follow content creators that are only on those platforms to make money.

        Until creators can easily make money on Fediverse platforms, they'll always play second fiddle to closed platforms that market and share profits, no matter how crappy the returns are.

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        This. There are alternative video hosting platforms; none of them are really alternatives to YouTube itself until the content creators also move.

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        • R rumba@lemmy.zip

          now go convince all those creators making a living that have both youtube and patreon money coming in to post on a free only alternative and just go to patreon income.

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          SamXavia
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          #94

          I know it's not as simple as that, but creators are annoyed of these platforms, mirroring your content on the Fediverse is easy through PeerTube and having 'uncensored' or less restricted videos be uploaded onto PeerTube can help.

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          • SamXaviaS SamXavia

            I know it's not as simple as that, but creators are annoyed of these platforms, mirroring your content on the Fediverse is easy through PeerTube and having 'uncensored' or less restricted videos be uploaded onto PeerTube can help.

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            #95

            Honestly, the fact they complain about the platforms all the time while doing nothing to leave those platforms what-so-ever just feels like another manipulation tactic like clickbait titles and thumbnails.

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              Honestly, the fact they complain about the platforms all the time while doing nothing to leave those platforms what-so-ever just feels like another manipulation tactic like clickbait titles and thumbnails.

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              #96

              As someone who creates stuff myself, I know how it is, It's hard to move away from the platforms when there's so many more people that see's your content on them.

              I wish I could get half the people that get to see my content on PeerTube but sadly as of the moment it's not the case.

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              • SamXaviaS SamXavia

                As someone who creates stuff myself, I know how it is, It's hard to move away from the platforms when there's so many more people that see's your content on them.

                I wish I could get half the people that get to see my content on PeerTube but sadly as of the moment it's not the case.

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                #97

                Small creators, sure. The huge ones with millions of subscribers, tho? If they left, their audience would follow them.

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                • V vitorobles@lemmy.today

                  Damn. Trashing Lemmy on Lemmy.

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                  Auster
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                  #98

                  If that's trashing, most debates I've seen would be bloodbaths. e.e"

                  Irony aside, if someone is politely criticized, what seems to be what the OP did, and the receiver sees it as a problem, the receiver shouldn't be a public figure.

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                  • nocturneN nocturne

                    I started on .world and quickly realized I wanted a smaller instance. So I moved to .ee and sopuli, then when .ee went down I decided to not limit myself to a single instance. I do not have as many accounts as cm02 does, 4 total I think. But only use 3 of them much.

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                    Auster
                    wrote last edited by auster@thebrainbin.org
                    #99

                    Adding to the thread of account redundancy and backups based on personal experiences...

                    I started I think it was on .ml or .world, quickly found kbin.social and preferred it, it died and I didn't have a culture of backing up accounts, then I moved to lemm.ee and I kinda forgot to make a backup in the grace period before it died (oopsie) but at least had been hoarding on RSS feeds so not all was lost, then found Mbin was a thing, then found about external RSS's and searching for fediverse links for pulling external posts.

                    Adjacent to external RSS's, also found out when an instance goes poof, the community/group/magazine keeps propagating, just as a derelict one. So while it'd be a moderation hell, at least it's somewhat preserved.

                    So moral of the story, there are a few ways to back stuff up, and thus, adding to the choir, please do use them.

                    And an addendum, PieFed also has external RSS feeds by default, so for example, piefed.social provides their own RSS feed for !fediverse@lemmy.world.

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                    • TuuktuukT Tuuktuuk

                      You know that piefed.world exists? Its admins are the same people that are also admins of your current home instance, lemmy.world.

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                      vatlark@lemmy.world
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                      #100

                      I'm aware, I just haven't tried it much.

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                      • mesaM mesa

                        Its fun. Honestly though, we are so similar its like choosing apple or cherry pie. It comes down to preference.

                        Fediverse means lemmy/piefed/etc..etc... can thrive and we all have a better experience.

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                        vatlark@lemmy.world
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                        #101

                        And that's the magic.

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                        • J jubilantjaguar@lemmy.world

                          20 communities with similar names (which gaming community is the โ€œrealโ€ one?)

                          On this one, I agree with them. Network effects do not go well with splittism. And yet it's hardly surprising we're here given the ills of contemporary society: narcissism, snowflakery, identitarianism, intolerance for contradiction. For every subject there must be ten separate communities (AKA echo chambers, bubbles) so that nobody has to see anything that they might disagree with.

                          I'm caricaturing, of course. But this issue is real. Given the political orientation here, it probably affects the fediverse more than corporate social media. And whatever the wrongs and rights of the subject, it is not helping the cause of attracting newcomers.

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                          On Piefed you get the most active communities in search (using similar metrics/ranking systems as reddit), it makes a lot more sense than on Lemmy which ranks search by sub numbers as opposed to MAU/WAU (so you get a lot of dead communities as #1 on the Lemmy WebUI).

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                          • R rumba@lemmy.zip

                            80% the people on TT, YT and IG are there to follow content creators that are only on those platforms to make money.

                            Until creators can easily make money on Fediverse platforms, they'll always play second fiddle to closed platforms that market and share profits, no matter how crappy the returns are.

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                            Krakova
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                            #103

                            Maybe itโ€™s just me, but the influencer type content creators are part of what Iโ€™m fleeing from in the mainstream social media options. The internet is better without them. The gamification and monitization leads to enshittification. Reddit really started going to shit when the same peopleโ€™s posts were always on the front page, and then you had the same people modding and gaming their communities to push it. I personally would hate if that happened to fediverse alternatives.

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                            • W worldsdumbestman@lemmy.today

                              What's with Piefed? Isn't it just another Lemmy instance?

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                              magnificentsteiner@lemmy.zip
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                              Different platform/software, same protocol (ActivityPub).

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                              • Agent_KaryoA Agent_Karyo

                                Bold words coming from a supporter of russian genocidal imperialism!

                                And please don't play dumb! We both know the overwhelming majority of tankies only speak English and at absolute best may have visited Europe for a week 20 years ago (let alone Cuba or China).

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                                What are you even talking about?? English is my second language and I lived in Europe almost my entire life. And I visited Cuba, it was nice.

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                                • Z zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                  I know, but you know who is developing lemmy, right? Wonderful people like @dessalines@lemmy.ml and @nutomic@lemmy.ml

                                  Thatโ€™s why I suggest not talking about lemmy anymore and adapt piefed as the name

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                                  ibyteabit@lemmy.ml
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                                  Even tagged them, wow

                                  Your arrogance is beyond words, personally attacking the devs that created and tirelessly maintain the very platform you're using to write this garbage comment.

                                  Go use reddit, it will align with your worldview much better since it is run by corporations that sell your data for profit, making use of their god given right to "personal freedom" as defined by the CIA, and don't allow anything left of Mussolini on their platform.

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                                  • Agent_KaryoA Agent_Karyo

                                    On Piefed you get the most active communities in search (using similar metrics/ranking systems as reddit), it makes a lot more sense than on Lemmy which ranks search by sub numbers as opposed to MAU/WAU (so you get a lot of dead communities as #1 on the Lemmy WebUI).

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                                    jubilantjaguar@lemmy.world
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                                    Useful to know.

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                                    • R rumba@lemmy.zip

                                      80% the people on TT, YT and IG are there to follow content creators that are only on those platforms to make money.

                                      Until creators can easily make money on Fediverse platforms, they'll always play second fiddle to closed platforms that market and share profits, no matter how crappy the returns are.

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                                      mortoc@lemmy.world
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                                      This sounds like an excellent feature. Fuck people trying to make money I wanna post stupid memes.

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                                      • I ibyteabit@lemmy.ml

                                        Even tagged them, wow

                                        Your arrogance is beyond words, personally attacking the devs that created and tirelessly maintain the very platform you're using to write this garbage comment.

                                        Go use reddit, it will align with your worldview much better since it is run by corporations that sell your data for profit, making use of their god given right to "personal freedom" as defined by the CIA, and don't allow anything left of Mussolini on their platform.

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                                        zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        You just make no sense. โ€œStop buying from Amazon if you donโ€™t like Bezosโ€. Whatever, since you are new, you donโ€™t know yet what you got yourself into with lemmygrad. Enjoy!

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                                        • K Krakova

                                          Maybe itโ€™s just me, but the influencer type content creators are part of what Iโ€™m fleeing from in the mainstream social media options. The internet is better without them. The gamification and monitization leads to enshittification. Reddit really started going to shit when the same peopleโ€™s posts were always on the front page, and then you had the same people modding and gaming their communities to push it. I personally would hate if that happened to fediverse alternatives.

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                                          chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          The ideal is people doing it just because they can, but how many people have the financial means for that? I'd say another reason for Reddit going to shit is all the people wanting to express themselves somehow, but only having a little bit of time to type something out on their phones and not enough to put thought or research into what they are saying. Streamers, youtubers etc. put a lot of work and practice into making something someone might consider good, and a lot of that is only possible because they get paid and so don't have to get another full time job that removes any time for creative pursuits.

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