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  • J jubilantjaguar@lemmy.world

    20 communities with similar names (which gaming community is the “real” one?)

    On this one, I agree with them. Network effects do not go well with splittism. And yet it's hardly surprising we're here given the ills of contemporary society: narcissism, snowflakery, identitarianism, intolerance for contradiction. For every subject there must be ten separate communities (AKA echo chambers, bubbles) so that nobody has to see anything that they might disagree with.

    I'm caricaturing, of course. But this issue is real. Given the political orientation here, it probably affects the fediverse more than corporate social media. And whatever the wrongs and rights of the subject, it is not helping the cause of attracting newcomers.

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    Agent_Karyo
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    On Piefed you get the most active communities in search (using similar metrics/ranking systems as reddit), it makes a lot more sense than on Lemmy which ranks search by sub numbers as opposed to MAU/WAU (so you get a lot of dead communities as #1 on the Lemmy WebUI).

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    • R rumba@lemmy.zip

      80% the people on TT, YT and IG are there to follow content creators that are only on those platforms to make money.

      Until creators can easily make money on Fediverse platforms, they'll always play second fiddle to closed platforms that market and share profits, no matter how crappy the returns are.

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      Krakova
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      Maybe it’s just me, but the influencer type content creators are part of what I’m fleeing from in the mainstream social media options. The internet is better without them. The gamification and monitization leads to enshittification. Reddit really started going to shit when the same people’s posts were always on the front page, and then you had the same people modding and gaming their communities to push it. I personally would hate if that happened to fediverse alternatives.

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      • W worldsdumbestman@lemmy.today

        What's with Piefed? Isn't it just another Lemmy instance?

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        magnificentsteiner@lemmy.zip
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        #104

        Different platform/software, same protocol (ActivityPub).

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        • Agent_KaryoA Agent_Karyo

          Bold words coming from a supporter of russian genocidal imperialism!

          And please don't play dumb! We both know the overwhelming majority of tankies only speak English and at absolute best may have visited Europe for a week 20 years ago (let alone Cuba or China).

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          Nutomic
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          #105

          What are you even talking about?? English is my second language and I lived in Europe almost my entire life. And I visited Cuba, it was nice.

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          • Z zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            I know, but you know who is developing lemmy, right? Wonderful people like @dessalines@lemmy.ml and @nutomic@lemmy.ml

            That’s why I suggest not talking about lemmy anymore and adapt piefed as the name

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            ibyteabit@lemmy.ml
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            #106

            Even tagged them, wow

            Your arrogance is beyond words, personally attacking the devs that created and tirelessly maintain the very platform you're using to write this garbage comment.

            Go use reddit, it will align with your worldview much better since it is run by corporations that sell your data for profit, making use of their god given right to "personal freedom" as defined by the CIA, and don't allow anything left of Mussolini on their platform.

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            • Agent_KaryoA Agent_Karyo

              On Piefed you get the most active communities in search (using similar metrics/ranking systems as reddit), it makes a lot more sense than on Lemmy which ranks search by sub numbers as opposed to MAU/WAU (so you get a lot of dead communities as #1 on the Lemmy WebUI).

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              jubilantjaguar@lemmy.world
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              #107

              Useful to know.

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              • R rumba@lemmy.zip

                80% the people on TT, YT and IG are there to follow content creators that are only on those platforms to make money.

                Until creators can easily make money on Fediverse platforms, they'll always play second fiddle to closed platforms that market and share profits, no matter how crappy the returns are.

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                mortoc@lemmy.world
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                #108

                This sounds like an excellent feature. Fuck people trying to make money I wanna post stupid memes.

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                • I ibyteabit@lemmy.ml

                  Even tagged them, wow

                  Your arrogance is beyond words, personally attacking the devs that created and tirelessly maintain the very platform you're using to write this garbage comment.

                  Go use reddit, it will align with your worldview much better since it is run by corporations that sell your data for profit, making use of their god given right to "personal freedom" as defined by the CIA, and don't allow anything left of Mussolini on their platform.

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                  zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  #109

                  You just make no sense. “Stop buying from Amazon if you don’t like Bezos”. Whatever, since you are new, you don’t know yet what you got yourself into with lemmygrad. Enjoy!

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                  • K Krakova

                    Maybe it’s just me, but the influencer type content creators are part of what I’m fleeing from in the mainstream social media options. The internet is better without them. The gamification and monitization leads to enshittification. Reddit really started going to shit when the same people’s posts were always on the front page, and then you had the same people modding and gaming their communities to push it. I personally would hate if that happened to fediverse alternatives.

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                    chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    #110

                    The ideal is people doing it just because they can, but how many people have the financial means for that? I'd say another reason for Reddit going to shit is all the people wanting to express themselves somehow, but only having a little bit of time to type something out on their phones and not enough to put thought or research into what they are saying. Streamers, youtubers etc. put a lot of work and practice into making something someone might consider good, and a lot of that is only possible because they get paid and so don't have to get another full time job that removes any time for creative pursuits.

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                    • Z zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      You just make no sense. “Stop buying from Amazon if you don’t like Bezos”. Whatever, since you are new, you don’t know yet what you got yourself into with lemmygrad. Enjoy!

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                      ibyteabit@lemmy.ml
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                      Not new, and I'm fine with lemmygrad but thanks for the concern. I'll make sure to avoid the likes of you instead

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                      • asudoxA asudox

                        It has more features than Lemmy atm, such as custom feeds, flairs or tags or whatever you call them, community moving, etc. (Some of which will also come to Lemmy in v1.0.0):
                        https://join.piefed.social/features/

                        Since it uses Python and not Rust, it can be developed faster* => faster development and more first time contributions.

                        Of course it isn't perfect, it has its downsides as any other software. You might also find it more attractive if you don't like the Lemmy devs' political views.

                        Though it is a bit opinionated, it's good to have another alternative in the threadiverse.

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                        cricket@lemmy.zip
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                        #112

                        Though it is a bit opinionated, it’s good to have another alternative in the threadiverse.

                        Whatever happened to kbin -> mbin? That was another early threadiverse alternative, but I don't hear much about it anymore.

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                        • TuuktuukT Tuuktuuk

                          PieFed is a different software. Lemmy is written in Rust and has a certain set of features.

                          PieFed is a newer project, written from scratch in Python, by completely different people. It includes Lemmy's features and shows the same posts as Lemmy, but has additional features such as polls, events, feeds (which are the same thing as multireddits on Reddit), emoji reactions, flairs, notifications for new comments coming for some specific post or new posts coming in some specific community, messaging with Mastodon users, and some other stuff that fails to come to my mind right now 🙂

                          There are several PieFed instances: https://piefed.fediverse.observer/list

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                          can it have an old reddit skin like lemmy?

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                          • Agent_KaryoA Agent_Karyo

                            Bold words coming from a supporter of russian genocidal imperialism!

                            And please don't play dumb! We both know the overwhelming majority of tankies only speak English and at absolute best may have visited Europe for a week 20 years ago (let alone Cuba or China).

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                            optissima (she/her)
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                            I can tell how much grass you touch based on this comment alone

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                            • Agent_KaryoA Agent_Karyo

                              Bold words coming from a supporter of russian genocidal imperialism!

                              And please don't play dumb! We both know the overwhelming majority of tankies only speak English and at absolute best may have visited Europe for a week 20 years ago (let alone Cuba or China).

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                              davel@lemmy.ml
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                              The great majority of the world’s “tankies” aren’t from the Global North but from the Global South and from actually-existing socialist states like China, Vietnam, and Cuba.

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                              • R rumba@lemmy.zip

                                80% the people on TT, YT and IG are there to follow content creators that are only on those platforms to make money.

                                Until creators can easily make money on Fediverse platforms, they'll always play second fiddle to closed platforms that market and share profits, no matter how crappy the returns are.

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                                madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                Then we can get new creators and a new kind of community.

                                Something different, can still grow and be beautiful.

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                                • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB blackn1ght@feddit.uk

                                  I wish there were a better name that represents lemmy & piefed. I know "threadiverse" is probably the "correct" name but it's a bit... shit.

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                                  madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  #117

                                  I think both names, Lemmy and piefed, are easy to remember. They are no more goofy than any other name, past or present, on the internet.

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                                  • NutomicN Nutomic

                                    Thank you 🙂

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                                    lemmeatem@lemmy.ml
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                                    Yeah, FWIW, having a viable non-chud alternative to reddit 6 or so years ago was nothing short of a godsend. And that it was made by actual comrades was just icing on the community cake. Though clearly the libs will never be able to forgive you for making the best federated social media platform while being principled and ideologically consistent in ways they never can be.

                                    So I figure what better place than yet another thread soiled by a tantrum-throwing toddler screeching about how mean the tankies are who made the platform he's screeching and sobbing on, to sincerely thank you & Dessalines for what you've made and for the work you do. heart-sickle

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                                    • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                      I modified a image I saw going around last year on Global Switch Day
                                      https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/comments/1ijmkc0/make_the_switch_away_from_meta/

                                      Perhaps we could use it to make people aware of Reddit alternatives etc.
                                      If you can imporve upon the image please do so, and feel free to use it.

                                      I just threw it together in KolourPaint in a few min.

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                                      abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works
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                                      Piefed over Lemmy?

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                                      • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                        PieFed > Lemmy (In my opinion)

                                        I switched to PieFed a while ago, it's the same thing but better (IMO)
                                        It also doesn't have any of the controversy that comes with Lemmy, and the UX is a lot better (IMO)

                                        It also has quite a few nice features that Lemmy lacks.
                                        Try out both, see which you like.

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                                        abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works
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                                        #120

                                        Recommend a mobile app for it?

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                                          die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                                          #121

                                          Should've put Twitter under the X logo lol

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