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  • A abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works

    Piefed over Lemmy?

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    psythik@lemmy.world
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    Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is? We don't need to fracture an already fractured community. The Piefed devs should merge the project with the Lemmy devs.

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      This. There are alternative video hosting platforms; none of them are really alternatives to YouTube itself until the content creators also move.

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      rumba@lemmy.zip
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      Floatplane in particular seems promising, but between them and viva plus, they really outline how expensive it is to try to do it Youtube style. But then you have things like odysee where they just barely monetize, and you see what hot trash that brings in.

      It's a hard nut to crack.

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      • P psythik@lemmy.world

        Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is? We don't need to fracture an already fractured community. The Piefed devs should merge the project with the Lemmy devs.

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        buttdrugs@lemmy.zip
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        That's open source for you. The biggest issue for things gaining traction is a million projects that all do the same thing "better". Look at Linux, if people are curious about "switching to Linux" all it takes is one comment thread somewhere to confuse then enough to bail on the idea.

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        • P psythik@lemmy.world

          Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is? We don't need to fracture an already fractured community. The Piefed devs should merge the project with the Lemmy devs.

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          psycotica0@lemmy.ca
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          In this case piefed and lemmy are basically compatible, so the communities can have a mix of the two. For example, the OP posted this with piefed, and you replied to it with presumably lemmy. So it may divide up developer effort a bit, but the community isn't divided.

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          • B buttdrugs@lemmy.zip

            That's open source for you. The biggest issue for things gaining traction is a million projects that all do the same thing "better". Look at Linux, if people are curious about "switching to Linux" all it takes is one comment thread somewhere to confuse then enough to bail on the idea.

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            psythik@lemmy.world
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            Yeah but at least there is a coherent, unified vision amongst the Linux distros. Plus Linux doesn't require everybody to all be on the same platform (distro) to thrive. Social media like Lemmy does. We need all the users we can get, instead of splitting them up for no good reason.

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            • P psycotica0@lemmy.ca

              In this case piefed and lemmy are basically compatible, so the communities can have a mix of the two. For example, the OP posted this with piefed, and you replied to it with presumably lemmy. So it may divide up developer effort a bit, but the community isn't divided.

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              psythik@lemmy.world
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              Well if that's the case, then I'm fine with it being a thing. I thought they were a competing and thus incompatible platform.

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              • nocturneN nocturne

                You might want to look into another number.

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                tothegravemylove@sh.itjust.works
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                Fuck that, nazis don't just get to own numbers. Drown out their noise, make their dogwhistles meaningless.

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                • davel@lemmy.mlD davel@lemmy.ml

                  The great majority of the worldโ€™s โ€œtankiesโ€ arenโ€™t from the Global North but from the Global South and from actually-existing socialist states like China, Vietnam, and Cuba.

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                  Agent_Karyo
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                  Totally!

                  They don't look at you and see a demagogue who is roleplaying online, oh no.

                  It's funny how you talk big about the "global south" and "actually-existing socialist states" and yet you have a very orientalist and honestly racist worldview.

                  You think people in Cuba or say Vietnam are idiots who can't see through basic bullshit.

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                  • H how_we_burned@lemmy.zip

                    Literally moved yesterday from reddit when I got banned because I angrily pointed out some fascist was parroting Trump/Russian talking points. Apparently it's harassment to tell someone their wrong on a public forum

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                    hector@lemmy.today
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                    ...reddit is a vibrant community...something something values different viewpoints. /s

                    Their moderation is dishonest.

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                    • Agent_KaryoA Agent_Karyo

                      Totally!

                      They don't look at you and see a demagogue who is roleplaying online, oh no.

                      It's funny how you talk big about the "global south" and "actually-existing socialist states" and yet you have a very orientalist and honestly racist worldview.

                      You think people in Cuba or say Vietnam are idiots who can't see through basic bullshit.

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                      davel@lemmy.ml
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                      wtf are you even talking about

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                      • C cricket@lemmy.zip

                        Though it is a bit opinionated, itโ€™s good to have another alternative in the threadiverse.

                        Whatever happened to kbin -> mbin? That was another early threadiverse alternative, but I don't hear much about it anymore.

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                        die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                        Mbin still exists https://fedidb.com/software/mbin

                        although the biggest instance, fedia.io, no longer allows anonymous viewing, which is kind of a shame

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                        • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                          I modified a image I saw going around last year on Global Switch Day
                          https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/comments/1ijmkc0/make_the_switch_away_from_meta/

                          Perhaps we could use it to make people aware of Reddit alternatives etc.
                          If you can imporve upon the image please do so, and feel free to use it.

                          I just threw it together in KolourPaint in a few min.

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                          GarboDog
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                          Question in the PeerTube, thereโ€™s like nothing there so why? Or are you saying we need to influx whatโ€™s on there and draw more people to it? Cuz the only way to do that is promise of monetization

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                          • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB blackn1ght@feddit.uk

                            I wish there were a better name that represents lemmy & piefed. I know "threadiverse" is probably the "correct" name but it's a bit... shit.

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                            Blaze (he/him)
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                            It's not the best, but I still haven't seen anything better

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                            • T Kaul

                              It kind of looks like Stoat is just an Open Source Discord clone? While the idea is great, it looks like all their servers are hosted by them (correct me if I'm wrong). Was really hoping for some kind of self hosted Discord where all the data is stored locally. I use Mumble currently, which is great for voice chat, but there are simply not enough features.

                              Edit: Actually I found the github page and it seems like there is a way to deploy this locally. Disregard

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                              Galactose
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                              Matrix & XMPP ?

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                              • Z zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                I know, but you know who is developing lemmy, right? Wonderful people like @dessalines@lemmy.ml and @nutomic@lemmy.ml

                                Thatโ€™s why I suggest not talking about lemmy anymore and adapt piefed as the name

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                                theoubliette@lemmy.ml
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                                Imagine being angry at dessalines.

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                                • Agent_KaryoA Agent_Karyo

                                  Totally!

                                  They don't look at you and see a demagogue who is roleplaying online, oh no.

                                  It's funny how you talk big about the "global south" and "actually-existing socialist states" and yet you have a very orientalist and honestly racist worldview.

                                  You think people in Cuba or say Vietnam are idiots who can't see through basic bullshit.

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                                  theoubliette@lemmy.ml
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                                  The best part of this comment is how it implies that people from China, Cuba, or Vietnam are just one big unit that all think and act the same, all while baselessly accusing davel of orientalism.

                                  You should try to set your own bar at basic honesty and see how it works out for you.

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                                  • TuuktuukT Tuuktuuk

                                    Basically the context is this: !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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                                    theoubliette@lemmy.ml
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                                    Ah yes, the embarrassed fascism comm

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                                    • H hector@lemmy.today

                                      ...reddit is a vibrant community...something something values different viewpoints. /s

                                      Their moderation is dishonest.

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                                      tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                                      they use AI to moderate, so pretty much. and only an admin can unban someone, given how much appeals they get, they are unlikely to see 99% of appeals anyways.

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                                      • TuuktuukT Tuuktuuk

                                        Basically the context is this: !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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                                        braininabox@lemmy.ml
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                                        The com run by an outright fascist?

                                        Well, you know what they say about liberals and fascism.

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                                        • Agent_KaryoA Agent_Karyo

                                          On Piefed you get the most active communities in search (using similar metrics/ranking systems as reddit), it makes a lot more sense than on Lemmy which ranks search by sub numbers as opposed to MAU/WAU (so you get a lot of dead communities as #1 on the Lemmy WebUI).

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                                          flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)
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                                          If you sort by 'Top Month' Lemmy will rank it by MAUs.

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