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  • P psythik@lemmy.world

    Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is? We don't need to fracture an already fractured community. The Piefed devs should merge the project with the Lemmy devs.

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    psycotica0@lemmy.ca
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    In this case piefed and lemmy are basically compatible, so the communities can have a mix of the two. For example, the OP posted this with piefed, and you replied to it with presumably lemmy. So it may divide up developer effort a bit, but the community isn't divided.

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    • B buttdrugs@lemmy.zip

      That's open source for you. The biggest issue for things gaining traction is a million projects that all do the same thing "better". Look at Linux, if people are curious about "switching to Linux" all it takes is one comment thread somewhere to confuse then enough to bail on the idea.

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      psythik@lemmy.world
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      Yeah but at least there is a coherent, unified vision amongst the Linux distros. Plus Linux doesn't require everybody to all be on the same platform (distro) to thrive. Social media like Lemmy does. We need all the users we can get, instead of splitting them up for no good reason.

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      • P psycotica0@lemmy.ca

        In this case piefed and lemmy are basically compatible, so the communities can have a mix of the two. For example, the OP posted this with piefed, and you replied to it with presumably lemmy. So it may divide up developer effort a bit, but the community isn't divided.

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        psythik@lemmy.world
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        #133

        Well if that's the case, then I'm fine with it being a thing. I thought they were a competing and thus incompatible platform.

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        • nocturneN nocturne

          You might want to look into another number.

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          tothegravemylove@sh.itjust.works
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          Fuck that, nazis don't just get to own numbers. Drown out their noise, make their dogwhistles meaningless.

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          • davel@lemmy.mlD davel@lemmy.ml

            The great majority of the world’s “tankies” aren’t from the Global North but from the Global South and from actually-existing socialist states like China, Vietnam, and Cuba.

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            Agent_Karyo
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            #135

            Totally!

            They don't look at you and see a demagogue who is roleplaying online, oh no.

            It's funny how you talk big about the "global south" and "actually-existing socialist states" and yet you have a very orientalist and honestly racist worldview.

            You think people in Cuba or say Vietnam are idiots who can't see through basic bullshit.

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            • H how_we_burned@lemmy.zip

              Literally moved yesterday from reddit when I got banned because I angrily pointed out some fascist was parroting Trump/Russian talking points. Apparently it's harassment to tell someone their wrong on a public forum

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              hector@lemmy.today
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              #136

              ...reddit is a vibrant community...something something values different viewpoints. /s

              Their moderation is dishonest.

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              • Agent_KaryoA Agent_Karyo

                Totally!

                They don't look at you and see a demagogue who is roleplaying online, oh no.

                It's funny how you talk big about the "global south" and "actually-existing socialist states" and yet you have a very orientalist and honestly racist worldview.

                You think people in Cuba or say Vietnam are idiots who can't see through basic bullshit.

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                davel@lemmy.ml
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                wtf are you even talking about

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                • C cricket@lemmy.zip

                  Though it is a bit opinionated, it’s good to have another alternative in the threadiverse.

                  Whatever happened to kbin -> mbin? That was another early threadiverse alternative, but I don't hear much about it anymore.

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                  die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                  #138

                  Mbin still exists https://fedidb.com/software/mbin

                  although the biggest instance, fedia.io, no longer allows anonymous viewing, which is kind of a shame

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                  • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                    I modified a image I saw going around last year on Global Switch Day
                    https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/comments/1ijmkc0/make_the_switch_away_from_meta/

                    Perhaps we could use it to make people aware of Reddit alternatives etc.
                    If you can imporve upon the image please do so, and feel free to use it.

                    I just threw it together in KolourPaint in a few min.

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                    GarboDog
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                    #139

                    Question in the PeerTube, there’s like nothing there so why? Or are you saying we need to influx what’s on there and draw more people to it? Cuz the only way to do that is promise of monetization

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                    • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB blackn1ght@feddit.uk

                      I wish there were a better name that represents lemmy & piefed. I know "threadiverse" is probably the "correct" name but it's a bit... shit.

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                      Blaze (he/him)
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                      #140

                      It's not the best, but I still haven't seen anything better

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                      • T Kaul

                        It kind of looks like Stoat is just an Open Source Discord clone? While the idea is great, it looks like all their servers are hosted by them (correct me if I'm wrong). Was really hoping for some kind of self hosted Discord where all the data is stored locally. I use Mumble currently, which is great for voice chat, but there are simply not enough features.

                        Edit: Actually I found the github page and it seems like there is a way to deploy this locally. Disregard

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                        Galactose
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                        Matrix & XMPP ?

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                        • Z zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          I know, but you know who is developing lemmy, right? Wonderful people like @dessalines@lemmy.ml and @nutomic@lemmy.ml

                          That’s why I suggest not talking about lemmy anymore and adapt piefed as the name

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                          theoubliette@lemmy.ml
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                          Imagine being angry at dessalines.

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                          • Agent_KaryoA Agent_Karyo

                            Totally!

                            They don't look at you and see a demagogue who is roleplaying online, oh no.

                            It's funny how you talk big about the "global south" and "actually-existing socialist states" and yet you have a very orientalist and honestly racist worldview.

                            You think people in Cuba or say Vietnam are idiots who can't see through basic bullshit.

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                            theoubliette@lemmy.ml
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                            The best part of this comment is how it implies that people from China, Cuba, or Vietnam are just one big unit that all think and act the same, all while baselessly accusing davel of orientalism.

                            You should try to set your own bar at basic honesty and see how it works out for you.

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                            • TuuktuukT Tuuktuuk

                              Basically the context is this: !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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                              theoubliette@lemmy.ml
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                              Ah yes, the embarrassed fascism comm

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                              • H hector@lemmy.today

                                ...reddit is a vibrant community...something something values different viewpoints. /s

                                Their moderation is dishonest.

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                                tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                                they use AI to moderate, so pretty much. and only an admin can unban someone, given how much appeals they get, they are unlikely to see 99% of appeals anyways.

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                                • TuuktuukT Tuuktuuk

                                  Basically the context is this: !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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                                  braininabox@lemmy.ml
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                                  The com run by an outright fascist?

                                  Well, you know what they say about liberals and fascism.

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                                  • Agent_KaryoA Agent_Karyo

                                    On Piefed you get the most active communities in search (using similar metrics/ranking systems as reddit), it makes a lot more sense than on Lemmy which ranks search by sub numbers as opposed to MAU/WAU (so you get a lot of dead communities as #1 on the Lemmy WebUI).

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                                    flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)
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                                    If you sort by 'Top Month' Lemmy will rank it by MAUs.

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                                    • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                      PieFed > Lemmy (In my opinion)

                                      I switched to PieFed a while ago, it's the same thing but better (IMO)
                                      It also doesn't have any of the controversy that comes with Lemmy, and the UX is a lot better (IMO)

                                      It also has quite a few nice features that Lemmy lacks.
                                      Try out both, see which you like.

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                                      0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      It also doesn't have any of the controversy that comes with Lemmy

                                      Oh you sweet summer child.

                                      They're just hard coding keywords to limit reach of usauthoritarianism and queer community.

                                      https://fedia.io/m/memes@lemmy.world/t/3230397/-/comment/13562251

                                      You'll need to login to view content, because they got the original post deleted but it's still cached on fedia.

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                                      • P psythik@lemmy.world

                                        Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is? We don't need to fracture an already fractured community. The Piefed devs should merge the project with the Lemmy devs.

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                                        retrolemmings@retrolemmy.com
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                                        Because the Lemmy devs support genocide, love Stalin, and are transphobic.

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                                        • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                          I modified a image I saw going around last year on Global Switch Day
                                          https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/comments/1ijmkc0/make_the_switch_away_from_meta/

                                          Perhaps we could use it to make people aware of Reddit alternatives etc.
                                          If you can imporve upon the image please do so, and feel free to use it.

                                          I just threw it together in KolourPaint in a few min.

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                                          Carl N. Yon
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                                          Why would you suggest piefed when it has so much biased hard-code in it's database?

                                          It is clear that Rimu has forced his personal viewpoint and ideology into his code. Despite the claims there has been no evidence that this is the case for Lemmy.

                                          He has coded in deliberatly misleading error messages when you try to upload images he doesn't like

                                          • You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long
                                          • When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped
                                          • Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code
                                          • Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!
                                          • If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed
                                          • if you try to comment a .gif ... you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn't like it
                                          • Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone
                                          • He has hardcoded which instances are allowed and which arent
                                          • He has hardcoded links to his ideology into the sidebar
                                          • He vindictively targeted a single user with code

                                          The code review can be found here

                                          Maybe someone should do a code review for lemmy to see how those tankies have influenced it.

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