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  • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

    PieFed > Lemmy (In my opinion)

    I switched to PieFed a while ago, it's the same thing but better (IMO)
    It also doesn't have any of the controversy that comes with Lemmy, and the UX is a lot better (IMO)

    It also has quite a few nice features that Lemmy lacks.
    Try out both, see which you like.

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    0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    It also doesn't have any of the controversy that comes with Lemmy

    Oh you sweet summer child.

    They're just hard coding keywords to limit reach of usauthoritarianism and queer community.

    https://fedia.io/m/memes@lemmy.world/t/3230397/-/comment/13562251

    You'll need to login to view content, because they got the original post deleted but it's still cached on fedia.

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    • P psythik@lemmy.world

      Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is? We don't need to fracture an already fractured community. The Piefed devs should merge the project with the Lemmy devs.

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      retrolemmings@retrolemmy.com
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      #149

      Because the Lemmy devs support genocide, love Stalin, and are transphobic.

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      • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

        I modified a image I saw going around last year on Global Switch Day
        https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/comments/1ijmkc0/make_the_switch_away_from_meta/

        Perhaps we could use it to make people aware of Reddit alternatives etc.
        If you can imporve upon the image please do so, and feel free to use it.

        I just threw it together in KolourPaint in a few min.

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        Carl N. Yon
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        #150

        Why would you suggest piefed when it has so much biased hard-code in it's database?

        It is clear that Rimu has forced his personal viewpoint and ideology into his code. Despite the claims there has been no evidence that this is the case for Lemmy.

        He has coded in deliberatly misleading error messages when you try to upload images he doesn't like

        • You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long
        • When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped
        • Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code
        • Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!
        • If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed
        • if you try to comment a .gif ... you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn't like it
        • Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone
        • He has hardcoded which instances are allowed and which arent
        • He has hardcoded links to his ideology into the sidebar
        • He vindictively targeted a single user with code

        The code review can be found here

        Maybe someone should do a code review for lemmy to see how those tankies have influenced it.

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        • V vitorobles@lemmy.today

          Damn. Trashing Lemmy on Lemmy.

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          Saapas
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          #151

          A tradition brought over from Reddit, where people were constantly shitting on Reddit hah

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          • 0 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            It also doesn't have any of the controversy that comes with Lemmy

            Oh you sweet summer child.

            They're just hard coding keywords to limit reach of usauthoritarianism and queer community.

            https://fedia.io/m/memes@lemmy.world/t/3230397/-/comment/13562251

            You'll need to login to view content, because they got the original post deleted but it's still cached on fedia.

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            Saapas
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            From what I remember it was about some discover feed feature or something and they tried to curate it a bit, remove greentexts and stuff that had a ton of posts or something.

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            • Carl N. YonC Carl N. Yon

              Why would you suggest piefed when it has so much biased hard-code in it's database?

              It is clear that Rimu has forced his personal viewpoint and ideology into his code. Despite the claims there has been no evidence that this is the case for Lemmy.

              He has coded in deliberatly misleading error messages when you try to upload images he doesn't like

              • You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long
              • When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped
              • Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code
              • Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!
              • If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed
              • if you try to comment a .gif ... you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn't like it
              • Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone
              • He has hardcoded which instances are allowed and which arent
              • He has hardcoded links to his ideology into the sidebar
              • He vindictively targeted a single user with code

              The code review can be found here

              Maybe someone should do a code review for lemmy to see how those tankies have influenced it.

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              yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Sounds like hell for someone with problems to put thoughts in words and/or uncommon opinions. You either go blend with the mass or die.

              Also, could I use my current lemmy account to upvote my each pie comment, to get better score in few minutes? Kinda fragile for cheats.

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              • R retrolemmings@retrolemmy.com

                Because the Lemmy devs support genocide, love Stalin, and are transphobic.

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                how_we_burned@lemmy.zip
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                Can you expand on this for a newbie?

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                • R retrolemmings@retrolemmy.com

                  Because the Lemmy devs support genocide, love Stalin, and are transphobic.

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                  peruvian_skies@sh.itjust.works
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                  I miss the innocent days when I thought only right-wingers could be transphobic.

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                  • B buttdrugs@lemmy.zip

                    That's open source for you. The biggest issue for things gaining traction is a million projects that all do the same thing "better". Look at Linux, if people are curious about "switching to Linux" all it takes is one comment thread somewhere to confuse then enough to bail on the idea.

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                    peruvian_skies@sh.itjust.works
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                    That's more a community and presentation problem than a fragmentation problem. If people could agree on objective criteria for recommending Linux distros to newbies, it wouldn't be so intimidating to them.

                    Nobody criticizes Ford or Toyota for having "too many options" when they sell cars because they present those options as complementary and people see the variety as a good thing. Linux distros are often presented as competing products, even though for most of them that's not the case.

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                    • Carl N. YonC Carl N. Yon

                      Why would you suggest piefed when it has so much biased hard-code in it's database?

                      It is clear that Rimu has forced his personal viewpoint and ideology into his code. Despite the claims there has been no evidence that this is the case for Lemmy.

                      He has coded in deliberatly misleading error messages when you try to upload images he doesn't like

                      • You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long
                      • When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped
                      • Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code
                      • Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!
                      • If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed
                      • if you try to comment a .gif ... you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn't like it
                      • Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone
                      • He has hardcoded which instances are allowed and which arent
                      • He has hardcoded links to his ideology into the sidebar
                      • He vindictively targeted a single user with code

                      The code review can be found here

                      Maybe someone should do a code review for lemmy to see how those tankies have influenced it.

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                      quinceybones@lemmy.zip
                      wrote last edited by quinceybones@lemmy.zip
                      #157

                      All that is optional and can be turned off in Admin settings.

                      Not to mention you’re exaggerating a loot.

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                      • H how_we_burned@lemmy.zip

                        Can you expand on this for a newbie?

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                        retrolemmings@retrolemmy.com
                        wrote last edited by retrolemmings@retrolemmy.com
                        #158

                        The two devs Nutomic and Deslanies are pro-Russia anti-Ukraine tankies.

                        One has a GitHub where he posts all his mind numbing theory and goes on about how the Uyghurs aren’t undergoing a genocide or Tiananmen Square never happened.

                        The other has been caught multiple times making transphobic comments and just generally not giving a shit if transgender people are victims.

                        Together with some other equally bad people they make up a trio of instances commonly referred to as the “tankie triad” (lemmygrad.ml, Lemmy.ml, and Hexbear.net) where they ban everyone who says critical things about Russia/China and generally push propaganda.

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                        • Carl N. YonC Carl N. Yon

                          Why would you suggest piefed when it has so much biased hard-code in it's database?

                          It is clear that Rimu has forced his personal viewpoint and ideology into his code. Despite the claims there has been no evidence that this is the case for Lemmy.

                          He has coded in deliberatly misleading error messages when you try to upload images he doesn't like

                          • You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long
                          • When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped
                          • Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code
                          • Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!
                          • If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed
                          • if you try to comment a .gif ... you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn't like it
                          • Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone
                          • He has hardcoded which instances are allowed and which arent
                          • He has hardcoded links to his ideology into the sidebar
                          • He vindictively targeted a single user with code

                          The code review can be found here

                          Maybe someone should do a code review for lemmy to see how those tankies have influenced it.

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                          Skavau
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                          You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long

                          Okay. So? This is in part anti-spam measures. It's very specific, but how many users do you imagine this applies to in practice?

                          When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped

                          Piefed.social only. Toggleable off.

                          Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code

                          Yes, this is to mitigate mass-downvoting. Why is this inherently a problem to you?

                          Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!

                          Trolls/spammers etc are serious problems on sites like Lemmy and Piefed. If you’re a new account and you’ve managed to get -100 reputation that quickly, it’s not a good sign. If and as the Fediverse grows, instance owners are going to need more observation tools to catch this type of stuff.

                          If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed

                          AI detection tools. But I’ve seen a lot of AI posters right now caught through this. use of the em-dash is very much a sign, unfortunately. It doesn’t ban them by the way. It just flags new accounts doing it to admins. So? Admins can turn this off.

                          if you try to comment a .gif … you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn’t like it

                          Can be turned off at the instance level.

                          Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone

                          No. If every instance was Piefed, you simply wouldn’t be able to reply to anyone who has blocked you. “Reply” is essentially faded out. The difference is that Lemmy doesn’t implement the block function in the same way, so Piefed just throws out replies by blocked users to the person who has blocked them coming from Lemmy. That’s the mismatch at play here.

                          If you can somehow still reply via a Piefed instance, it is bugged and not working as intended.

                          He vindictively targeted a single user with code

                          This has been removed now, and it wasn't "vindictive" in purpose at all.

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                          • 0 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                            It also doesn't have any of the controversy that comes with Lemmy

                            Oh you sweet summer child.

                            They're just hard coding keywords to limit reach of usauthoritarianism and queer community.

                            https://fedia.io/m/memes@lemmy.world/t/3230397/-/comment/13562251

                            You'll need to login to view content, because they got the original post deleted but it's still cached on fedia.

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                            quinceybones@lemmy.zip
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                            #160

                            It was an anti meme feature that has since been removed on request. The PieFed devs are very open to the community and act lighting fast.

                            Meanwhile people have been asking Lemmy for a working block function for years and they refuse. And let’s not forget the hardcoded front page banners Lemmy puts on all instances begging for donations to do who knows what as it never updates.

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                            • R retrolemmings@retrolemmy.com

                              Because the Lemmy devs support genocide, love Stalin, and are transphobic.

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                              dayroom7485@lemmy.world
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                              Yes, let’s split the community into pieces, that’s gonna show the tech monopolists and make us stronger! /s

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                              • hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyzH hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz

                                Awesome! Definitely need to check that out.

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                                quinceybones@lemmy.zip
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                                Best feature, a working block feature.

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                                • T tothegravemylove@sh.itjust.works

                                  Fuck that, nazis don't just get to own numbers. Drown out their noise, make their dogwhistles meaningless.

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                                  quinceybones@lemmy.zip
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                                  So you have a Hitler moustache?

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                                  • T tothegravemylove@sh.itjust.works

                                    Fuck that, nazis don't just get to own numbers. Drown out their noise, make their dogwhistles meaningless.

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                                    edible_funk
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                                    Ok but don't get offended or surprised when people recognize those dogwhistles and think you're the one whistling them.

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                                    • NutomicN Nutomic

                                      Thanks, I guess. You seem like a very nice and reasonable person.

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                                      edible_funk
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                                      Rich coming from a literal Russian propagandist.

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                                      • I ibyteabit@lemmy.ml

                                        Even tagged them, wow

                                        Your arrogance is beyond words, personally attacking the devs that created and tirelessly maintain the very platform you're using to write this garbage comment.

                                        Go use reddit, it will align with your worldview much better since it is run by corporations that sell your data for profit, making use of their god given right to "personal freedom" as defined by the CIA, and don't allow anything left of Mussolini on their platform.

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                                        Are you mad that people don't like tankies spouting RT talking points?

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                                        • C cricket@lemmy.zip

                                          Though it is a bit opinionated, it’s good to have another alternative in the threadiverse.

                                          Whatever happened to kbin -> mbin? That was another early threadiverse alternative, but I don't hear much about it anymore.

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                                          #167

                                          Mbin is not as popular as Lemmy or Piefed, so nobody talks about it. Even before Piefed started being popular, Kbin was still not that popular compared to Lemmy in the past nor Piefed right now (might be an exaggeration).

                                          With the Kbin lead dev, Ernest, not being active enough (due to medical reasons), the community forked Kbin, which is what we know today as Mbin.

                                          https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/1383#issuecomment-1999046

                                          https://lemmy.world/post/7125414

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