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  • T tothegravemylove@sh.itjust.works

    Fuck that, nazis don't just get to own numbers. Drown out their noise, make their dogwhistles meaningless.

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    quinceybones@lemmy.zip
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    So you have a Hitler moustache?

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    • T tothegravemylove@sh.itjust.works

      Fuck that, nazis don't just get to own numbers. Drown out their noise, make their dogwhistles meaningless.

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      #164

      Ok but don't get offended or surprised when people recognize those dogwhistles and think you're the one whistling them.

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      • NutomicN Nutomic

        Thanks, I guess. You seem like a very nice and reasonable person.

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        Rich coming from a literal Russian propagandist.

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        • I ibyteabit@lemmy.ml

          Even tagged them, wow

          Your arrogance is beyond words, personally attacking the devs that created and tirelessly maintain the very platform you're using to write this garbage comment.

          Go use reddit, it will align with your worldview much better since it is run by corporations that sell your data for profit, making use of their god given right to "personal freedom" as defined by the CIA, and don't allow anything left of Mussolini on their platform.

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          Are you mad that people don't like tankies spouting RT talking points?

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          • C cricket@lemmy.zip

            Though it is a bit opinionated, it’s good to have another alternative in the threadiverse.

            Whatever happened to kbin -> mbin? That was another early threadiverse alternative, but I don't hear much about it anymore.

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            asudox
            wrote last edited by asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev
            #167

            Mbin is not as popular as Lemmy or Piefed, so nobody talks about it. Even before Piefed started being popular, Kbin was still not that popular compared to Lemmy in the past nor Piefed right now (might be an exaggeration).

            With the Kbin lead dev, Ernest, not being active enough (due to medical reasons), the community forked Kbin, which is what we know today as Mbin.

            https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/1383#issuecomment-1999046

            https://lemmy.world/post/7125414

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            • P psythik@lemmy.world

              Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is? We don't need to fracture an already fractured community. The Piefed devs should merge the project with the Lemmy devs.

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              spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml
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              #168

              Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is?

              Because some people had ideological differences with some of the Lemmy Devs. So instead of using the software as it's supposed to be used, and simply defederating from instances they didn't like, they went and made their own software which effectively does the same thing as Lemmy.

              I guess I don't mind that there's diversity in the Fediverse ecosystem, but at the same time, I feel like the people most adamant about pushing Piefed are doing so, because they want to be in an ideological echo chamber, as opposed to actually furthering the cause of federated social media, and open-source software.

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              • Q quinceybones@lemmy.zip

                So you have a Hitler moustache?

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                tothegravemylove@sh.itjust.works
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                No, but Michael Jordan did.

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                • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 K 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮

                  This. There are alternative video hosting platforms; none of them are really alternatives to YouTube itself until the content creators also move.

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                  spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml
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                  This is a big thing I've been thinking about with Youtube. People clearly have problems with it. But they're so locked in that they feel they can't move to another platform.

                  I don't even think they creators need to make a full jump for Peertube to grow. But having content Cross-posted, and for creators to go "and if you want an alternative to YouTube, I'm also on PeerTube" would go a long way.

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                  • edible_funkE edible_funk

                    Are you mad that people don't like tankies spouting RT talking points?

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                    grapho@lemmy.ml
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                    #171

                    Rt talking points like what, exactly? Half the time I see a lib frothing at the mouth bc they saw an RT link, I go and read it and it's just outright quoting Ukrainian officials with a source.

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                    • yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zoneY yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                      Sounds like hell for someone with problems to put thoughts in words and/or uncommon opinions. You either go blend with the mass or die.

                      Also, could I use my current lemmy account to upvote my each pie comment, to get better score in few minutes? Kinda fragile for cheats.

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                      Carl N. Yon
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                      #172

                      You could but they disregard votes from any instance that doesn't fit the glorious leader's opinion.

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                      • Q quinceybones@lemmy.zip

                        All that is optional and can be turned off in Admin settings.

                        Not to mention you’re exaggerating a loot.

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                        Carl N. Yon
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                        #173

                        Glad you agree that Rimu is putting his own beliefs and ideology into the piefed code, any chance you know of similar issues with the lemmy code?
                        Not if there isn't any documentation and how do the users know if the social credit score is active on their instance? He intentionally makes it hard to know if your image or comment even applies, it is like this bizarre shadowban for anyone the glorious leader doesn't like.

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                        • S Skavau

                          You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long

                          Okay. So? This is in part anti-spam measures. It's very specific, but how many users do you imagine this applies to in practice?

                          When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped

                          Piefed.social only. Toggleable off.

                          Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code

                          Yes, this is to mitigate mass-downvoting. Why is this inherently a problem to you?

                          Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!

                          Trolls/spammers etc are serious problems on sites like Lemmy and Piefed. If you’re a new account and you’ve managed to get -100 reputation that quickly, it’s not a good sign. If and as the Fediverse grows, instance owners are going to need more observation tools to catch this type of stuff.

                          If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed

                          AI detection tools. But I’ve seen a lot of AI posters right now caught through this. use of the em-dash is very much a sign, unfortunately. It doesn’t ban them by the way. It just flags new accounts doing it to admins. So? Admins can turn this off.

                          if you try to comment a .gif … you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn’t like it

                          Can be turned off at the instance level.

                          Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone

                          No. If every instance was Piefed, you simply wouldn’t be able to reply to anyone who has blocked you. “Reply” is essentially faded out. The difference is that Lemmy doesn’t implement the block function in the same way, so Piefed just throws out replies by blocked users to the person who has blocked them coming from Lemmy. That’s the mismatch at play here.

                          If you can somehow still reply via a Piefed instance, it is bugged and not working as intended.

                          He vindictively targeted a single user with code

                          This has been removed now, and it wasn't "vindictive" in purpose at all.

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                          Carl N. Yon
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                          Yea sure, if it wasn't called out how long would those malicious code stayed in?

                          Thanks for agreeing that there is clear bias inside the piefed code. Who knows if you can acually keep those setting or if a new "update" won't revert the changes back to what he wants you to see or not see. In addition how do users know any of this? Why is he even doing this to begin with? Are you an alt of the glorious leader?

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                          • edible_funkE edible_funk

                            Ok but don't get offended or surprised when people recognize those dogwhistles and think you're the one whistling them.

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                            tothegravemylove@sh.itjust.works
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                            I've got 88 problems, and they're all fucking nazis.

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                            • P psythik@lemmy.world

                              Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is? We don't need to fracture an already fractured community. The Piefed devs should merge the project with the Lemmy devs.

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                              dannymac@sh.itjust.works
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                              It doesn't fracture anything, it is basically a Fediverse reader/writer. It's like opening a txt file in vim, emacs, or nano, they all read and write to that file type at the end of the day. Don't forget, there's also Kbin.

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                              • spookybogmonster@lemmy.mlS spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml

                                Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is?

                                Because some people had ideological differences with some of the Lemmy Devs. So instead of using the software as it's supposed to be used, and simply defederating from instances they didn't like, they went and made their own software which effectively does the same thing as Lemmy.

                                I guess I don't mind that there's diversity in the Fediverse ecosystem, but at the same time, I feel like the people most adamant about pushing Piefed are doing so, because they want to be in an ideological echo chamber, as opposed to actually furthering the cause of federated social media, and open-source software.

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                                Skavau
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                                Piefed does a lot of different things to Lemmy right now.

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                                • S Skavau

                                  Piefed does a lot of different things to Lemmy right now.

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                                  spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml
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                                  And that's part of why I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea of more diversity in the Fediverse space.

                                  But I do take umbridge with a lot of the "why you should switch to Piefed" rhetoric being based in bizarre "Tankie triad" conspiracism.

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                                  • Carl N. YonC Carl N. Yon

                                    Why would you suggest piefed when it has so much biased hard-code in it's database?

                                    It is clear that Rimu has forced his personal viewpoint and ideology into his code. Despite the claims there has been no evidence that this is the case for Lemmy.

                                    He has coded in deliberatly misleading error messages when you try to upload images he doesn't like

                                    • You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long
                                    • When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped
                                    • Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code
                                    • Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!
                                    • If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed
                                    • if you try to comment a .gif ... you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn't like it
                                    • Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone
                                    • He has hardcoded which instances are allowed and which arent
                                    • He has hardcoded links to his ideology into the sidebar
                                    • He vindictively targeted a single user with code

                                    The code review can be found here

                                    Maybe someone should do a code review for lemmy to see how those tankies have influenced it.

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                                    greenshimada@lemmy.world
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                                    You know, when people say piefed is like reddit, I don't know if they realize it's exactly like reddit.

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                                    • R retrolemmings@retrolemmy.com

                                      The two devs Nutomic and Deslanies are pro-Russia anti-Ukraine tankies.

                                      One has a GitHub where he posts all his mind numbing theory and goes on about how the Uyghurs aren’t undergoing a genocide or Tiananmen Square never happened.

                                      The other has been caught multiple times making transphobic comments and just generally not giving a shit if transgender people are victims.

                                      Together with some other equally bad people they make up a trio of instances commonly referred to as the “tankie triad” (lemmygrad.ml, Lemmy.ml, and Hexbear.net) where they ban everyone who says critical things about Russia/China and generally push propaganda.

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                                      #180

                                      Thanks sock puppet account, very helpful

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                                      • R retrolemmings@retrolemmy.com

                                        Because the Lemmy devs support genocide, love Stalin, and are transphobic.

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                                        psythik@lemmy.world
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                                        #181

                                        Oh. Oh no.

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                                        • edible_funkE edible_funk

                                          Ok but don't get offended or surprised when people recognize those dogwhistles and think you're the one whistling them.

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                                          degen@midwest.social
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                                          Its all good after some Nazis get their shit kicked in by punks in doc martens

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