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  • M moakley@lemmy.world

    It seems like it should be unnecessary, like we already have ways of conveying this sentiment, so why have a button with such a narrow function?

    But on the other hand, making it normal for people to admit their mistakes online? That would be a huge step forward. And if there's a button there for it, it would get used.

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    wrote last edited by sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    #34

    It does very much annoy me that, yeah, its always been possible to do this.

    I believe Claim A! Claim A deniers are bad, smell bad, and are probably also demons!

    EDIT:
    Welp, looks like Claim A is dubious, thanks to user so and so for setting me straight, see their explanation below.

    Yeah you have always been able to do that or something very close to it on basically every forum or social media type thing ever.

    But... you are probably right that if you give people a mea culpa flag as a built in part of the UI/UX, that would almost certainly spur more people to do it.

    ... Its still terrifying to me that a large segment of people would need such a button to exist before they would be ok doing it.

    I guess this isn't a case where the sort of 'desire path' solution manifests and is then maybe formally adopted, seems like you'd have to basically social engineer humility into people.

    I hate that this would probably work, in the sense that it isn't just DUH obvious to everyone already that they don't need a button specifically for this, but I also love that this would probably work.

    I can imagine a 'year end wrap up' where you get to see all the stuff you said that you decided was stupid.

    Then I guess just pair it with some kind of affirmative message of 'hey, you're trying to admit your mistakes, and that's probably good'.

    Its less deceptive than trying to delete shit dumb stuff, as... everyone can still see you did say it, but realized it was bad.

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    • toldry@lemmy.worldT toldry@lemmy.world

      There was a discussion about this article 2 years ago here and here, but I thought it's such an interesting a novel concept full of potential that it's worth a repost.

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      #35

      Piefed has this feature.

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      • RimuR Rimu

        Piefed has this feature.

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        #36

        My only question is if piefed fixed client side ghost editing.

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          wrote last edited by
          #37

          Some don't even use it.

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          • S scutiger@lemmy.world

            Excuse me?

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            dozzi92@lemmy.world
            wrote last edited by
            #38

            Ha, I used to love this show as a kid, so thanks for that. Felt like a fever dream.

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            • dozzi92@lemmy.worldD dozzi92@lemmy.world

              That's interesting, apparently false, itsumi means something else that I forgot in the time it took me to swipe back over to Lemmy here, but I do like the line of thinking.

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              #39

              Well it's obvious, Mario is the name, Itsumi the surname.

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              • _‌_反いじめ戦隊A _‌_反いじめ戦隊

                My only question is if piefed fixed client side ghost editing.

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                ripcord@lemmy.world
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                #40

                Is this like an ADHD subject jump, or...?

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                • D daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                  Love the idea. Making errors is human. I have distrust for people who never admit being wrong. They are just wrong sometimes, as anyone else, they are just unwilling to admit it.

                  This would be an easy way to parse of a person have admitted being wrong more or less times.

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                  tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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                  #41

                  one reason people don't admit they are wrong is because other people will shame and attack them for being wrong.

                  admitting you were wrong isn't consequence free. it's shameful, bad, and weak and others want to punish you for it. hence why people are incentivized to never admit they are wrong... because that often avoids those consequences and a lot of people admire someone who never admits they are wrong as strong and good and they are inspired by it.

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                  • ripcord@lemmy.worldR ripcord@lemmy.world

                    Is this like an ADHD subject jump, or...?

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #42

                    No, honest inquiry.

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                    • V vitorobles@lemmy.today

                      We also need a button like "This does not reflect who I am as a person"

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                      #43

                      Like a "I don't endorse this, but I want you to see it" post? I'm all for that.

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                        lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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                        #44

                        The extra b was half in jest, but yeah. I was actually surprised at first to find out "mobb" with two bs is an actual word.

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                        • _‌_反いじめ戦隊A _‌_反いじめ戦隊

                          No, honest inquiry.

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                          #45

                          How is it related?

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                          • ripcord@lemmy.worldR ripcord@lemmy.world

                            How is it related?

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                            wrote last edited by antibullyranger@ani.social
                            #46

                            non-“de-escalatable” edits: no warnings, simply DARVO respondents.

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                            • A astralpath@lemmy.ca

                              Huh, that's an interesting one. I'm glad I'm not the only one hearing something weird.

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                              iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world
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                              #47

                              Green Needle/Brainstorm is a different sound. It was from a McDonalds toy.

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                              • P polotype@lemmy.ml

                                I heard from qomwhere that it's not it's a me but itsumi, the japanese word for hero but this might be bs

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                                lumidaub@feddit.org
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                                #48

                                Hero = yuusha

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                                • Y yata@sh.itjust.works

                                  I don't see the usefulness of that one compared to just deleting your comment in that scenario. This one will just be abused by trolls posting outrageous claims and then preventing people from replying by flagging the mistake option.

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                                  draco_aeneus@mander.xyz
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                                  Quite often, I find that leaving a post up has value. It nukes context for the posts below it, which is bad. It's also not great if only part of a larger post is bad, since you lose all of it. Lastly, with a deleted post, it's unclear if the creator learned from it, or if they removed it to avoid the backlash.

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                                  • lumidaub@feddit.orgL lumidaub@feddit.org

                                    Hero = yuusha

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                                    polotype@lemmy.ml
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                                    #50

                                    Yeah, mb it was suposed to mean super but aparently the original info was bullshit and the it's a me is official

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                                    • toldry@lemmy.worldT toldry@lemmy.world

                                      There was a discussion about this article 2 years ago here and here, but I thought it's such an interesting a novel concept full of potential that it's worth a repost.

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                                      blackmist@feddit.uk
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                                      #51

                                      If only social media was still full of humans...

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