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Melania drops 67% at US box office as Rotten Tomatoes defends record-breaking audience scores

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  • W whostosay@sh.itjust.works

    Rotten tomatoes has always been shit, always gonna be shit

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    savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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    I came to that conclusion after paying money to see Brad pitt in F1 following 97% scores.

    They took the exact plot of Stallone's Driven, to date the worst movie ever made about racing, or anything else.

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    • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

      I came to that conclusion after paying money to see Brad pitt in F1 following 97% scores.

      They took the exact plot of Stallone's Driven, to date the worst movie ever made about racing, or anything else.

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      dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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      And yet we won't get a How Did This Get Made episode about F1, making it completely worthless

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      • Y you_are_dust

        How can you even have a documentary about possibly the most uninteresting person on earth? I'm not sure that I've even heard her speak before. A documentary about my neighbor would be more intriguing.

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        dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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        Conservatives are bootlicking morons.

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        • C captdust@sh.itjust.works

          How is IMDb much more reliable? I'd argue that's even easier to manipulate as you don't need to buy a ticket to leave a review. Review bombing (in either direction) is pretty rampant on IMDB.

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          texasdrunk@lemmy.world
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          Pretty much anything that reaches a critical mass now gets manipulated. Web 2.0 saw to that.

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          • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

            I came to that conclusion after paying money to see Brad pitt in F1 following 97% scores.

            They took the exact plot of Stallone's Driven, to date the worst movie ever made about racing, or anything else.

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            cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works
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            #52

            Hollywood manages to successfully astroturf reviews most films for at lest a couple weeks after release.

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            • G Gargantuan

              it makes sesnse though. Anyone paying to see it is probably MAGA anyway, so of course they’re going to rate it highly.

              i doubt very many non MAGA types have seen it, so there will be very few negative reviews for that reason alone.

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              cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works
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              Probably the equivalent of publishing companies buying thousands of copies of books so that they are best sellers.

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              • W whostosay@sh.itjust.works

                Rotten tomatoes has always been shit, always gonna be shit

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                mlg@lemmy.world
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                #54

                Its actually wild seeing the critic reviews sitting at 8% with the "verified user" score at 99%.

                Usually they pay off both groups lol.

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                • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                  I came to that conclusion after paying money to see Brad pitt in F1 following 97% scores.

                  They took the exact plot of Stallone's Driven, to date the worst movie ever made about racing, or anything else.

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                  yiddishmcsquidish@lemmy.today
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                  #55

                  I'm remembering that dime scene now. That movie was really fucking bad.

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                  • crackhappy@lemmy.worldC crackhappy@lemmy.world

                    Man, this looks very bad for RT. If they don't course correct on this, they are going to lie any remaining trust or faith.

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                    yiddishmcsquidish@lemmy.today
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                    They've been obvious shills for at least a decade. All you have to do is look at any new release. They rarely get below 80/90%. Every single fucking movie can't be the citizen Kane they claim it is.

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                    • E eatcasserole@lemmy.world

                      0% chance that's legit.

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                      yiddishmcsquidish@lemmy.today
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                      All you gotta do is check out the people leaving positive reviews. They either don't exist anywhere but RT, or are obvious bots/paid shills.

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                      • E eatcasserole@lemmy.world

                        0% chance that's legit.

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                        nihilistic_mystics@lemmy.world
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                        I actually make perfect sense given recent changes RT made. In order to leave an audience review and be counted towards the score, you need to be a verified viewer. Like, someone who has paid for a ticket through an RT partner like Fandango. The reason for this recent change was to prevent review bombing, like what happens on every movie conservatives hate. It obviously has some major drawbacks, like we can see for this movie's verified audience ratings, as only bootlickers would ever watch this garbage fire propaganda. So we only see their ratings here.

                        However, we can still see the all-audience ratings by clicking on the score and selecting that option. It's currently sitting at 29%, and that's even after a Republican campaign to boost the score.

                        So, we have critic scores at 10% (as of this very moment), which makes sense because the movie is trash and only the Republican culture warriors are giving it a thumbs up. Then only ticket purchasing viewers have their score taken into consideration for the "Verified Audience" score, so you only get bootlickers and of course they're all giving it a perfect score.

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                        • T thepantser@sh.itjust.works

                          90% swing between critics and public? WTF? Has there ever been a movie with so many fake reviews?

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                          nihilistic_mystics@lemmy.world
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                          For obvious propaganda pieces like this, that's how "Verified Audience" reviews will always be. In order to be counted you need to have purchased a ticket through one of RT's partners, so it's self-selecting. No sane person is going to buy a ticket to this bribe masquerading as a documentary, so it's only insane Republicans being counted towards that score.

                          You can select "All Audience" if you want to see everyone. It's at 29%, even after Republicans' review boosting campaign.

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                          • P Phoenixz

                            RT critic score always was shite, they would push expensive shit projects in the 90+% range constantly.

                            The audience score usually has been more reliable but as this instance shows, it's super easy to manipulate as well.

                            IMDB scores are much more reliable

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                            nihilistic_mystics@lemmy.world
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                            My dude, critics just value different things than everyday audiences. When you watch movies for a living you become jaded and value uniqueness more than anything. General audiences care a whole lot less about uniqueness and just want something entertaining. That's why you get off the wall stuff with high critic ratings but low audience ratings, or fairly generic but entertaining stuff with low critic ratings but high audience ratings.

                            Just know how to read the scores and RT is still the most useful around. Critic score are uniqueness, cinematography, and potentially storytelling. Critics also like drama much more than the average person. Audience scores are for entertainment value. But you also need to take the scores in context of genres you like. If you love scifi and a movie has a 50% audience score, you'll probably enjoy it plenty. If you hate scifi it's probably not for you at all.

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                            • N nihilistic_mystics@lemmy.world

                              For obvious propaganda pieces like this, that's how "Verified Audience" reviews will always be. In order to be counted you need to have purchased a ticket through one of RT's partners, so it's self-selecting. No sane person is going to buy a ticket to this bribe masquerading as a documentary, so it's only insane Republicans being counted towards that score.

                              You can select "All Audience" if you want to see everyone. It's at 29%, even after Republicans' review boosting campaign.

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                              samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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                              #61

                              Yup. Giving it a positive review is basically saying "I support Trump" since nothing involving him could ever be bad in any way to them, and of course 99% of the people who actually paid to see it will be Trump supporters.

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                              • M mech@feddit.org

                                RT looking almost as bad as RT.

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                                in_my_honest_opinion
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                                Take the rest of the week off after that one.

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                                • Eternal192E Eternal192

                                  Trump would probably support the sex worker industry but they are all too old for him.

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                                  No he wouldn't even if he weren't a pedo. He'd never actually pay someone for honest labor.

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                                  • N nihilistic_mystics@lemmy.world

                                    My dude, critics just value different things than everyday audiences. When you watch movies for a living you become jaded and value uniqueness more than anything. General audiences care a whole lot less about uniqueness and just want something entertaining. That's why you get off the wall stuff with high critic ratings but low audience ratings, or fairly generic but entertaining stuff with low critic ratings but high audience ratings.

                                    Just know how to read the scores and RT is still the most useful around. Critic score are uniqueness, cinematography, and potentially storytelling. Critics also like drama much more than the average person. Audience scores are for entertainment value. But you also need to take the scores in context of genres you like. If you love scifi and a movie has a 50% audience score, you'll probably enjoy it plenty. If you hate scifi it's probably not for you at all.

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                                    anistorian
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                                    This is the most useful comment I read in a long time.

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                                    • N nihilistic_mystics@lemmy.world

                                      I actually make perfect sense given recent changes RT made. In order to leave an audience review and be counted towards the score, you need to be a verified viewer. Like, someone who has paid for a ticket through an RT partner like Fandango. The reason for this recent change was to prevent review bombing, like what happens on every movie conservatives hate. It obviously has some major drawbacks, like we can see for this movie's verified audience ratings, as only bootlickers would ever watch this garbage fire propaganda. So we only see their ratings here.

                                      However, we can still see the all-audience ratings by clicking on the score and selecting that option. It's currently sitting at 29%, and that's even after a Republican campaign to boost the score.

                                      So, we have critic scores at 10% (as of this very moment), which makes sense because the movie is trash and only the Republican culture warriors are giving it a thumbs up. Then only ticket purchasing viewers have their score taken into consideration for the "Verified Audience" score, so you only get bootlickers and of course they're all giving it a perfect score.

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                                      eatcasserole@lemmy.world
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                                      Ah yes, the "all audience" button makes it make sense.

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                                      • T thepantser@sh.itjust.works

                                        Buying a ticket and actually watching the movie are two different things. For all we know all those that "bought" a ticket and left a review are all the military personnel that were ordered to go see it and probably were ordered to leave a glowing review.

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                                        BeeegScaaawyCripple
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                                        what's that meme about russian bot farms only this time it's rt reviews

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                                        • Y you_are_dust

                                          How can you even have a documentary about possibly the most uninteresting person on earth? I'm not sure that I've even heard her speak before. A documentary about my neighbor would be more intriguing.

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                                          flamingleg@lemmy.ml
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                                          what is the deal with your neighbour?

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